Alien Abductions: Creating a Modern Phenomenon
Monday August 13, 2007
In an article titled, Alien Abductions: Creating a Modern Phenomenon, the author discusses a new book by Terry Matheson. The gist of the article is not whether or not Alien Abductions are real or not, but how authors use their forum to influence readers to think the same way they do.
There are researchers who believe that the alien abduction phenomena is a real event, based on physical reality. Some believe that abductions are directly linked to UFOs, but others tend to disagree, believing that abduction stands totally on its own. I will agree that the abduction side of the UFO mystery is one of the most difficult issues to get a good handle on. It also seems that as of late, the reports of alien abduction have almost disappeared. Is this simply a lull of activity? Or have the aliens completed their testing on humans, and now we wait for the next phase of their operation? If this is the case, it is a frightening thought. Don't you think?
Comments
Yes kind of freighting, but out worldly exciting at the same time.
The logical chronology of it all is pretty staggering when you think about it. Now that there is renewed real interest for the ET phenomenon with more demands of disclosure, with the beginning of powerful countries revealing their ex-files, adding the time frame of 2012 with a looming apocalyptic climate change, without of course, forgetting escalating warfare, WELL! Planet earth is sure on the verge of some kind of ‘big bang’ disturbance. One could presume that they(whatever they are) were collecting the DNA of species on its final phase. What’s freighting about it all is that all that experimentation could’ve happened and may be going on beyond our awareness, if not our acknowledgement.
the problem with UFOs stories has always been that people with extremely strange views (see above!) come out of the closet and discredit everything that someone who’s logical and science minded has said. Viewers tend to lump everyone together (the logical commense sense people with the new age crystal ball doomsday wackos). I do believe that UFOs could very well represent other civilization from other worlds. I say this and I also am not sure I believe the climate has changed since I was young many years ago, although I think we need to keep an eye on climate changes. I don’t think Alien abduction can be proven unless
1)they find a microchip or
2) some sort of nonearthly chemical can be found on people who lose time that is causing them to loose their memory
I think people who are more logical and science minded should steer clear of the odd balls who bring everyone down.
So many have tried and failed to predict ‘the end’. Let me, just for a moment,look at things on an earthly level…Let’s say Jesus , as a human. Don’t think fire and brimestone..just think of someone who come from a place that knew the future..How?..well He already says that He is the “Light”..ie..He has mastered Time. Well, here’s a man that knows what is going to happen..was put on Earth in that particular time frame so as to let people know.He wanted to save the world so much..showed them things that they were not even able to do yet..told them that they would, one day, be able to do what He was able to do (if not, more)…whitnessed being transformed into another form..(sounding a bit like a movie isn’t it?) then…because people didn’t believe Him..killed Him. How would you feel if you knew the future..if you tried to save the people …if you knew that there was a ‘perfect place’ that you wanted them to know about?…but nobody would listen…nobody believed you…? Well there were some that knew..some that had their ‘ears open’.
All the answers are written…one example..’a mountain that is on fire..crashing into the sea’. I think we all know what that is. If you wanted to take people from the Earth to another place with you…wouldn’t you want decent people? That’s why He gave everyone that opportunity…but a lot chose to ‘live it up’ here..instead of the alternative. That’s why murderers, adulterers, liars, fornicators ect, won’t be allowed in. Sounds like a plan to me!
Well this is a subject that attracts people who hold bizarre views that they apparently do not know how to communicate, given the first and third comments above.
To Linda..You just confirmed what I said..How would you feel if you knew and people reacted just like you did….? Thanks for the confirmation.
Sharon
There are some real wacko’s on this comment chain. Leave your religion at home fool. This is supposed to be comments about alien abductions – not Jesus. Here’s some free advice: go see a shrink.
Reference back to Sharon’s comment. How can I confirm what you wrote when I couldn’t make sense of what you wrote? You might benefit from instruction re: how to communicate via the written word.
Unless there is a witness to an abduction or some clearly observable and verifiable evidence attesting to an experience of something far out of the ordinary, abduction is an experience that can be known only by the abductee. (Maybe the element of lost time is a kind of tangible evidence). It is a completely subjective experience. The amnesia, claimed to be an induced amnesia, serves to compound this unknowable (for now, I guess) experience of abduction. But it is obvious that many people who have experienced what they define as abduction are deeply shaken and/or changed by it.
To Linda,
Your condecending and arrogant manner only makes any further discussion with you look very unnatttactive. There are a lot of people out there that know exactly what I was speaking of. You portrayed a manner that stops a lot of people speaking of there experiences. Your pretentous comment could be summed up in one sentence..ie Only the abductee experiences these things that leave them shaken..with no evidence to confirm this experience. Well..what a revelation!
Bye.
To Jay,
Check out a site..’the Bible and ufo connection’ and then see if mentioning religion is shrink material…let’s see if you’re game enough? Bye.
“Well what a revelation” No revelation at all, simply an attempt to start with what can demonstrably be known, given our current of knowing in shared place and time. Just a starting point. And of course, just stating the obvious.
Some accounts of abductee experiences are compelling – see the Betty and Barney Hill story via Mr. Booth’s website.
oops! meant to write “current means of knowing” in the post above.
Aurthur C Clarke’s 2001 is about aliens that are guiding mankind spiritually onward. Everytime mankind is ready for the next phase, the aliens put a monolith up. Well this type of guidance with ufo these days is pure guesswork. There’s nothing to prove it at all, it’s just wishful thinking. I would doubt that the bible has anything in it about UFOs. Any besides most religions are probably only good stories with little basis in reality. I think someday religion might not play such an important role in mankinds behaviour and true morality might be more important. Aurthur C Clarke thinks religion hijacked morality.
In late 1979, I notified USAF at old Ellington Field in Texas and was rerouted to a AF Colonel to reveal a strange Alien abbduction/enounter w/UFO agressive extraterrestial aliens, who conducted a brain scan and blood test on me, all this while I was on a routine security patrol in Texas. i was told to never mention the accounts of this story to any one and that “they” AF Investigators would be in touch. I never hear from any agents about my encounter with UFO Craft/Aggressive Aliens.
Sorry, about a few grammatical errors in above post. Especially, where I stated “I never hear from… I never heard from any USAF investigators, regarding my encounter with Agressive Aliens.
Hello I agree there are many psychotic people out there that should seek the help they need. I believe there are U.F.O.s out there and I am not the only one. Happy Trails Amorte Yvonne
Yvonne,
I am the one who spoke of the Bible..how sad it is that all I did was write what is in there already..and for that you’re agreeing that I need help? A wise person would seek a little more information before judging a persons mental state. Have a look at the site I suggested (Bible and ufo connection). I believe you will be amazed at the ufo activity in the Bible. I have had personal experiences with ufo’s (that which I have spoken to Mr. Booth)but I certainly don’t think this is the place to speak of these experiences…Once again, it is the harsh judgments like this that supress the urge to share them. I hope you do look at that site because you will like it.
Sharon.
Just editing my comment..Where I said that I had spoken to Mr. Booth, I meant I have spoken of my experiences on his site..not actually spoken to him over the phone. Just thought I’d clarify that.
Sharon.
Sharon.
I see that my comment stirred some emotional reactions, never thought that a hardcore atheist like me could be mistaken for a ‘new age crystal ball doomsday wacko’. I was just trying to connect the dots to eventually try to draw the probable big picture here. So objectively my comment was meant to be a hypothesis if alien abductions were to be true. It’s funny how most of those logical common sense people tend to get EMOTIONAL and SUBJECTIVE and CLOSE-MINDED in their discourse with other people who could very well be at another level of evolution just like it is ironic how most of the scientific minds (especially western ones) are still reacting like primates (however sophisticated) to probable otherworldly life, even if it is just micro-biologic.
Don’t forget to rationalise your emotions people.
Come on Lesly.
You wrote this:
“adding the time frame of 2012 with a looming apocalyptic climate change, without of course, forgetting escalating warfare, WELL! Planet earth is sure on the verge of some kind of ‘big bang’ disturbance. One could presume that they(whatever they are) were collecting the DNA of species on its final phase.”
“looming apocalyptic climate change”
I don’t think I buy into global warming just yet. No real proof of this at all. Temperatures have been pretty normal except for a warm January. Back in the 70s we had very cold winters and people were saying this was due to man made pollution back then. Weather pattern change every now and then on their own.
“WELL! Planet earth is sure on the verge of some kind of ‘big bang’ disturbance.” Big Bang, sounds terrible. Very strange, and no reason to believe this at all. People will be looking back on these days as the good old days a couple hundred years into the future I bet.
“they are were collecting the DNA of species on its final phase.”"
And what are we to make of this statement??? The final phase of what??? Maybe write this as a question instead of a statement.
And do we have escalating warfare? Compared to what? The wars that are going on now are relatively small compared to 1914-18, 40s through the early 70s. Even WWII, as bad as it was where 55 million people died, life went on as normal afterward. You might want to take respomsiblity for what you write. You are putting way too much opinion in there based on nothing scientific.
If we are being visited by beings from other worlds, other dimensions, other space-times, they could as easily be benign or even potentially helpful, as they could hostile. Maybe we are being presented with sighting and experiences as a preliminary to being reminded of who we are. It takes about as much effort to be hopeful about the future and the unknown as it does to be despairing and hopeless. (I hope that Lesly does some research at the big-bang theory – my reading of her comments leads me to wonder whether she is thinking that the earth will explode in 2012. And this happens to be the same year that many of those that she slimed as being “…doomsday wackos” believe that we may evolve/transform to a much higher reality.
Not trying to have the last word here! O.k. I get it Scott; You’re one of those ‘big’ skeptic all right!
And not because someone likes to use a little metaphoric syntax every once and a while, doesn’t mean that one does not do research or inform him/herself. This is all one can do, just that some like to run to conclusions sometimes instead of beating about the bush.
Interest in ancient civilisations, like Atlantis, huge lost underwater city off the western coast of India and others got me to rethink the straight line evolution theory. It seems to me that our existence on this earth is a constant cycle of illusive evolution and devolution unless we find the truth about our origins. What I meant by ‘big bang disturbance’ is a NEW beginning, the probable end of the PRIMITIVE era, psychologically and materialistically. I’m sick and tired of 99% of humanity acting like cattle always at the mercy of some fake hierarchy of power. I used to thrust scientists, ANY scientist but there are your bad apples just like the religious wackos out there. Experts of SCETI, even NASA are Jokes just like the scientists of all fields who consent to be used in order to keep the populace in the dark with their condescending disinformation, as if, they could handle the truth better than the rest of us. We’ll have a UFO/ET false flag long before official disclosure. Fortunately, truth is sovereign; it does not belong to anyone. So whatever is occurring, with our without our knowledge, or belief, is just
well see I know a lot of people may say that since Im a Christian that I think these aliens are fallen angels, etc etc or demons but I know they come from another planet, I mean it’s only obvious but I found out from Daniel 2:43 it says how they will mingle with the seed of men, right in these times. See, I found out after the whole Rosewell incident or even before then, our government signed some kind of treaty with the aliens and thats why there were more ufo sightings/abdcutions around say the 50s and 60s than any other time period, like a wave of ufo sightings back then. The governmenet I heard or found out, had allowed the aliens to take people for abductions and to do as they pleased with us. Also there was an abduction list. I know a lot of you dont believe in the scriptures but in daniel 2:43 it is stated in there about them, because there is nothing else that can mingle with the seed of men like that, no animal no insect and so go figure. They are real and they are doing this to people, mingling with our seed and tampering with our dna just like the angels did in the days of noah, so go figure. They do things to people and make their lives miserable, but God is on the look out. Also I found out that around the time they start mingling with our seed, their kingdom will be crushed by another one that lasts forever, thats the kingdom of Christ. See, all this ufo stuff and the pact they had with our government, I’m thinking the new world order will form. So be ready people, it’s coming. If anyone has any questions just email me at terryjautry@msn.com ok? I’m here for you people.
The problem with people who are religious is that no matter what you tell them they are so sure their right that they disregard or warp what you say and start quoting bible passages. This is why people don’t take UFOs seriously, because religious zealots and new age wierdos start coming out of the woodwork. It’s always been the major problem and will continue to be a problem. The people who wrote the bible didn’t know anything more about UFOs that you do. I don’t know why people think that they had some sort of mystical knowledge back in the dark ages. Back then they knew very little about science and were very superstitious. Peole today are closer to the enlightened ones. Terry and others ….. can you please talk about UFOs without mentioning anything that deals with religion or the bible.
The last comment (scott) is still at the stage that religion is ‘uncool’…please!!! that is getting so old. You spoke of having scientific backup..this is all so far beyond the science of today that waiting for ‘backup’ would put you way behind. The Bible plays no part? The fact is that religion plays a major part in all this. Just in the first few pages…’God HOVERED over the water..’ Gee…I wonder what HOVERED means!!!!
‘He took Adams RIB and made woman’ HE PUT ADAM IN A DEEP SLEEP AND TOOK HUMAN DNA TO MAKE ANOTHER!!!! HOW MUCH CLEARER CAN THAT BE? Have you even read\looked at these writings or have you just generalized us all into the ‘new age weirdos’ without even looking into these things? As for these people in Bible that don’t know anything about ufo’s…Ezekiel described the ufo even down to the ‘eyes flashing all around the rim ..as the other two hovered next to it ect’ (NO..they didn’t have hot air balloons back then). Please…get over this ‘religion is uncool’ bit and read some facts before you disregard it.
Sharon.
Sharon, There are passages in the Bible that can easily be interpreted in support of ET contacts and experiences, just as there are writings and iconography from other religious traditions that can be so interpreted. It is a mystery. Even if someone has had direct contact experiences, as you claim to have had, those experiences are in the realm of what is not commonly known, maybe in some borderline state where the material and the non-material converge. You didn’t hesitate to label me as arrogant and dismiss me in one of your earlier posts. I would guess that you are equal-opportunity disparaging of anyone who questions your thinking or your point of view or who sees things differently that you do. You lost me in your first “sounds like a plan to me” post. I know full well there is no point in trying to have a dialogue with people like you. Well, when the rapture comes I guess you’ll be transported away on a spaceship with all the good people and you won’t have to be bothered with us despicable sinners anymore. Based on your earlier statements I’m sure that is “the plan” you allude to.
Terry,
Yes, I also know about the breeding that is recorded. In the first part of the Bible it is recorded that the ’sons of God, came down from the heavens and interbred with the seed of Eve…ie. the women on Earth.’ and that is why God was angry as they went against His command. (There you go Scott, another piece of proof…please don’t hide behind the ‘interpretation ‘ bit. How much clearer can that be?!) Years ago, people would have wondered what that meant..only a smaller number would have known but, today we have a better perpective on things as people are speaking out about abduction\contactee ect.That is why it is also written that people would read the Bible as ‘illiterate children’ ( ie..not really understanding ) but then some eyes\ears would be opened …His people will know and they will see the signs whereas others will not!
Lesley..I think you have more insight than what some have given you credit for. An atheist?..maybe you are as you say..but I hesitate to think so.
Sharon.
Sharon.
Im afraid scott that i can talk more about it the way you want me to. Ufos are in fact real and the fact that people who wrote the bible never knew of them, im not saying they knew what they were because no one really was writing about ufos in the bible, but in fact it was mentioned they shall mingle with our seed and that is in fact something to think about. The things to realize in the scriptures is that people often saw sons of God, angels, and not aliens or ufos, I never said they saw them or wrote about ufos. I know my bible and I have a lot more back up than you may think. In the beginning of times, the sons of god mingle with the seeds of men and the giants came about, the scriptures say that as it was in the days of noah, around that time with the sons of God having sex with women to produce giants and messing up the gene pool of men, that it would be like that in the last days basically. Go figure scott, it’s a parallel situation, meaning that it’s exactly the same things, but instead with aliens. If you or anyone else thinks aliens are angels, then youre wrong. Yea they walk through walls, aliens do, because they have mastered the atoms. If you want, I can give you a link to it and so you learn from yourself, it’s called the dulce book, of the alien underground base in new mexico. There are aliens bases underground all over the world. Anyways, i dont always have to use the bible for references when referring to ufos. Let me tell you though scott, people who were abducted have stated that the aliens told them God had sent the aliens to help us. Wrong, that can’t be because the aliens say the have created people and not God. Others have stated that aliens told them that Christ’s return is soon. How can alien tell people this when they tell people they created us? Aliens tell people these things so that they will feel good, they read your thoughts, telepathically scott and it’s all true. They have lied to so many people when they abduct them. Go figure, because it’s going to come into the open hard. I tend to keep my faith in God no matter what. They showed the egyptians how to build the pyramids because they are perfectly aligned with constellations and it’s all true.
They are real and they are hitting harder than ever, but you can’t be afraid because they feed off fear.
Everyone, don’t be afraid ok? They don’t pose a threat to us right now but I know that some day they will. God is in control still and their kingdom will be brought down some day.
I also want to say that the rapture, which is never stated as rapture in the scriptures, never talks about a machine or ufo to pick people up, it mentions Christ and how He arrives on the scene, and from what I’ve read, it said nothing about a beam of light picking up people. The dead in Christ rise first basically. Aliens have no use for souls not to my knowledge. Another thing, I want to clear this up. Sure a lot wonder why it says “God said Let Us create Man in Our image…”He was talking to Christ because Christ was also God in the beginning. In some of the scriptures you will read in the new testament, it will tell you that all things were created by Him for Him, talking of Christ and in others, He says basically He wants to share that glory He had with God in the beginning basically. So go figure. Aliens lie to people and tell people they created us. They have also told people that God sent them, so go figure. It’s contradicting. As for the so called night watchers in the book of enoch, that book mostly talked of demons and fallen angels, and it doesnt make a lot of sense to me, and some say those night watchers are aliens, but I dont think so. Aliens have been underground for years and people are starting to find this out. It’s a shame that people are left in the dark about this unless they read into it like i have. I dont know where they came from nor do I care. I will always believe in God no matter what. For the simple fact, all of the things spoken of in the last days is happening with the false christs and many lying wonders, etc etc. Thats what these aliens are doing to people, showing and teaching them these weird things and taking them to strange places, almost like a fantasy world that exists outside of this realm. They can read our thoughts and toy with our minds with a device, to control us. A device that they use to keep track of someone for years, and they will never know it. Its an implant that is put in at a young age and that person becomes a contact, gaining the trust of the aliens and feeling generous toward them and lied to. Go figure lol. There was this story a true one where this lady, not too long ago found out her daughter was being taken by them at night, yes aliens only come out mostly at night, thats why so many ufos, but anyways, the girl told her mom “mommy,they pull down my jammies and they take me outside…” sad and the this little girl is like 3 years old. Now would an angel do something like that or would God, no.
Terry,
I need to correct you on one particular comment you made. Ufo’s are mentioned in the Bible..’The wheel within the wheel..being taken up in a whirlwind ect.” That doesn’t mean that they were the aliens that you speak of. In fact, Ezekiel said that the ’spirit of God’ was in that particular one.God travels in so many different ways…who are we to say that He wouldn’t use this form also? He is a righteous leader and would not subject His people to any oppressive ,cruel and immoral situation as in the situation of the abductees and that is proven in the Bible. ie..Adam was aware and receptive to Him forming Eve.(as I have spoken of already) and He actually sent an Angel to Mary and nothing was done untill she submitted willingly. There is always an answer in the Bible. TEST THE SPIRIT!
Sharon.
Sharon.
Actually, that wasn’t a ufo, even though some may say it was. Sharon, there are many speculations of the scriptures when some say the so called reptoids living underground are the seed of satan. There are some who say that it was originally said that eve and the serpent had sex, and was later changed or stuff taken out. Like with the Dead Sea Scrolls or the book of Enoch. If you think about it, nothing in the Bible was ever changed or taken out. The book of Enoch only talks mostly about angels, and demons and astrology and a bunch of other things that will not go along mostly with the Scriptures. Some of the things people are seeing surface up now, which people believe were taken out of the bible, thinking it belongs in there, when in fact a lot of that stuff that wasnt in there was inspired by Gnostic Teachings, like the Davinci Code, which was inspired by Gnostic Teachings. If everyone I keep seeing has only one piece of evidence about the wheel within a wheel in Ezekiel, then I’m sorry but people will need more evidence and not pull stuff out of context. I for one know it wasn’t a ufo and I can also back that up with proof. Some say that it was ufo that entered mary which is a lie because it was the Holy Spirit. For one, if you believe in the Trinity, with God being 3 persons in One with 3 different personalities, you will know that since Christ was in the beginning, He had to come down and subject and Humble Himself as a Human and I can also back that up, so the whole ufo thing is ruled out. People will never learn I guess until they have proof and can back it up.
Ufos are never mentioned in the Bible. And that is a fact.
Terry,
I also have knowledge of the ancient writings…Enoch was ‘taken up’ and shown star patterns, the course of the sun, the gates where they enter and depart ect.. He was left in an enormous room whilst awaiting to have audience with the Lord….
You are still gathering knowledge and a word from the Bible ‘A wise man is quick to listen but slow to speak’. Please see the site that I stated earlier.
Sharon.
Sharon.
Terry,
Just thought this would ease your mind about those underground…
Php 2:10 Rev. 5:13.
Sharon.
Sharon.
Actually, I don’t need to read or know any of that stuff. The things in the Book of Enoch will contradict a lot of things in the scriptures. And a lot of that doesnt make any sense to me. And I know a lot more of the scriptures than you think I know. I’m ending this debate. It’s not worth it to me, I have proof, more proof than you can ever imagine of these things Sharon. You will never know how my mind operates or what God has shown me or what He has done for me. It’s between me and Him, why do you think the Book Enoch was never apart of the original scriptures? Or the other scriptures left out of the New Testament? A lot of it was inspired by Gnostic teachings, that’s why and there were also two apocalyptic books and the revalations of today is what we go by, probably cause the other was inspired by Gnostic teachings. It’s a shame how people are led away by such things in this world. I study my bible and I know my stuff well enough to look what’s in it and compare the t hings that were left out of the bible and see that it has no connections whatsoever. I’m not foolish and I have been saved for many many years. Even Jeremiah started out in his youth, or did you not read that part? Or even David,chosen by God? Don’t forget, God chose the foolish things of this world to put the greater things to shame. I dont care if I’m still learning, I know enough not to be fooled by things. Study the word that we may know how to give an answer. People are so quick to mix the Word up with what they think but pull it out of context, like the Jehova’s Witness or that Da Vinci Code, inspired by Gnostic teachings and I have proof of that also. I’m ending this little debate. I’m at a level in life you will never be able to understand, the mentality that I’ve acquired and the spirituality that I have gained and mixed it altogether to let no one ever take me down, having God on my side, along with this feeling of super motivation, to bring it to an ultimate level and it feels great and I look past these kinds of debates. It in no way affects me. I know better. It’s time to move on now and end this debate. Its not that I dont have answers but it’s just not worth it, I’ll be able to come back with proof and it could go on and on.
Maybe you can debate with someone else, but not this Christian.
Someone or something made our universe as well as all of the other universes and galaxies. Are we so minded as to actually believe we are the only beings or people around? These beliefs should be made into humility, as to be honest, we do not know.
Is it not wonderful, to actually believe that nothing is impossible?
After all, who are we to say, what the possibilities are? For me, I believe that until someone proves different I will keep an open heart, and open mind. As our limitations and beliefs are only what we hold to our mind, and imaginations, while the truths are yet to be seen.
Wonders and mysteries are yet to be unraveled ,for we are yet to open the treasure chests of what is unbeknownst to us! My warmest wishes to all, in the goals, dreams,
and wishes, that are in each of our hearts and spirits.
Terry,
It was not the book of Enoch that I was referring to. The site I mentioned earlier was ‘The Bible and ufo connection’. As, I said…quick to listen, slow to speak! There are a lot of people being shown things..as the Lord said..’I will send dreams and visions…’ Knowledge comes… but it is how you use that knowledge that determines how wise you are. Bye.
Sharon.
Sharon.
I was just telling you about the Book of Enoch. I’m just saying that the scriptures we know today, never mentions what happens to Him after He was translated into Heaven. No mention is made of it and I tend to stick with that belief. I’m not telling you anything to be rude to you Sharon, or nothing ok? No harm done here.
Im not trying to get into a religious battle with anyone on here
Hey again everyone, I hope you are all doing ok. Just a thought. I know there are a lot of people who wonder where ufos come into in the bible and if the bible is real do to aliens also being real. The thing we have to look at, for one thing, with all of these wars spoken of in the Last Days, as well as other things going on in the Holy Land, and churches that were formed a long time ago. No one could have made this stuff up, even the Mystery of Jesus Christ, it’s just too complex for someone to make up. Whether some like it or not, God is real and so are aliens and ufos. somewhere in the scriptures they are mentioned about how they will Mingle with the Seed of Men. We dont have to be afraid of these things and if anyone wants to ever talk to me about it, you can always email me at terryjautry@msn.com