The Speed of Light
1) UFOs originate here on Earth, either by secret government manufacturing, or by a non-human race which secretly lives on Earth.
2) UFOs are flying vehicles which move through another dimension of space and/or time, enabling them rapid access to and from our planet.
3) UFOs are flying machines which are being flown to Earth from distant planets, or galaxies.
The last possibility is what the article is all about. Most scientifically trained minds will quickly tell you that the distances in space are so vast, that visits from distant planets is simply not possible. The only way that the long voyages can be shortened is to break the speed of light. Impossible! you say, but wait just a minute. Only just recently, scientists at the NEC Research Institute in Princeton, New Jersey claim to have achieved this seeminly unreachable plateau, at least where sending information is concerned. Can sending larger objects this way be very far in the future? As would be expected, this announcement has met with great skepticism of course, and still needs more clarification and confirmation.
What all of this leads to is that if there is an alien race which is technologically advanced beyond man, say, even 100 years, they could already have this technology, and be using it to visit our planet. Is this possible?
Comments
After the first few generations of stars in our galaxy, life could have appeared somewhere. That would leave billions of years for an intelligent race to evolve, given the age of our galaxy. Today using ion drive technology we have the ability to achieve, over months of constant drive, space craft speeds nearing the speed of light. Given the billions of years of evolution and even near light speed technology a race could have explored most of our galaxy (and thats only one race, I assume their are more). Using the Drake equation and extrapolating from it is my estimate that during the current life span of our sun, our solar system has probably been visited at least eight times. Given that an intelligent species might continually move outward from its source and never feel it necessary to return to its home planet, and not knowing the life spans of other alien species, I think it is quite likely that we have and possibly are being visited. Traveling faster than light (thanks to time dilation at near light speeds)is not a necessity unless you always want to return home to your loved ones (a rather anthrocentric point of view). That’s my two cents for what it’s worth.
While it is quite likely that ETI have visited our solar system many times, the percentage of time in the life of the solar system that intelligent life has been around to greet such visitors is tiny. It would be a miracle if man had even existed yet when the visitors came.
Most UFO sightings much more likely fall into Group I, i.e., terrestrial origin, including experimental military flight systems and mistaken identification of existing technology(weather balloons, etc.)
Given the size of the known universe ET life is inevitable. Given time contact is also inevitable. Will it happen in our lifetimes? Very probably not.
….my 2 cents as well
3) UFOs are flying machines which are being flown to Earth from distant planets, or galaxies.
I bet we don’t know all there is to know about physics, especially when it comes to the topics of space and gravity. It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re traveling much faster than we think is possible. This is the most likely senario in my opinion.
1) UFOs originate here on Earth, either by secret government manufacturing, or by a non-human race which secretly lives on Earth.
I can’t imagine that we are capable of the former, and I don’t think that a non-human race could evolve here without fossil evidence. So they evolved somewhere else. Could they take generations to get here and live on bases under the sea or on the moon? Maybe possible but it’s pure speculation and should be discussed as such.
2) UFOs are flying vehicles which move through another dimension of space and/or time, enabling them rapid access to and from our planet.
“another dimension of space”- sounds like a field of physics whose existance would be pure speculation at this time…..but possible.
Life from the future couldn’t visit the past because it might affect their very existance. Furthermore, I don’t think anything could come from the future because it hasn’t happened yet.
Or, maybe, some supposed UFOs are our own creation of mind, a sort mental projection?
Well, never mind that.
Within our galaxy our solar system and its star, our sun, is rather young. There are stars and solar systems within our galaxy that are several million years older than ours. If intelligent life exists on some of them and a sort of evolution occurs on them, imagine how much more evolved it is technologically.
It was just about 100 years ago that light bulbs and radios were invented. Think of all the changes that occurred in only a 100 years. What will happen in a 1000 years, or 5000 or more, (if we don’t kill ourselves)? If the same process occurs elsewhere in the galaxy, couldn’t we imagine that galactic travel is mere child’s play?
If you want to know where ETs are coming from then read my book called Interpretations of an Alien Star Map
the focus of my book is Betty Hill’s str map. I know they dont come from zeta Reticuli.
Tom Downie’s, “2 cents worth” certainly stimulates energetic imagining. His concept is overpoweringly thought provoking. I wonder what other interesting concepts he has to offer at such bargain prices. I’d love to read more…
Scott,
Well, nice to see that you’re, at least, thinking about time travel. I’m the one that you ‘boo..hissed’ at the comment I made concerning this subject. See how running away from the
word ‘religion’ can cause you to miss
out on knowledge that is just staring some in the face. Yes, going back in Time could change peoples’ very existance…IT DID! Now , hold yourself down because I’m goimg to mention the word…Bible. Are you alright? Well..just think about how the future was foretold in the Bible…how do you think He knew the future? Well, here’s a clue…after He spoke of the future, He would say…”IT IS ALREADY DONE”!
Sharon.
Sharon.
OK, Now i’m intrigued. Sharon- on “time travel” you mentioned “it did” on the subject of changing the future…Could you please clarify just what you meant?
I’d LOVE to hear it! Thanks,
Matt
Sharon Sharon quotes bible scripture like she’s certain it’s 100% accurate. Many people had a say in writing the bible, and most of the New Testament was passed on by word of mouth hundreds of years before it was put into words. Some information about the bible from Wikipedia: “Many proponents of the documentary hypothesis view the Bible more as a body of literature than a work of history, believing that the historical value of the text lies not in its account of the events that it describes, but in what critics can infer about the times in which the authors lived” …..”many critical scholars have argued that the Bible be read not as an accurate historical document, but rather as a work of literature and theology that often draws on historical events—and often draws on non-Hebrew mythology—as primary source material.” Yet Sharon Sharon quotes every word of the bible as the concrete undeniable truth and that’s why religion and science shouldn’t mix. I don’t wish to argue this point any more.
Scott,
Still running? You didn’t answer my question..just shunned the Bible..was that so you wouldn’t have to? As I have said before, this ‘religion is uncool’ bit is getting old. Sooo much knowledge in there that is way beyond the science of this Time frame. The expression…’Ears and eyes will be opened’ that alone speaks of a higher level of understanding…not historical date matching.
Sharon.
Sharon.
Matt,
You’ve come in on a previous conversation. Think of the movie ‘Stargate’ and that will give you an idea of what we were discussing. Think of the part when the people first saw his lighter..their reaction and amazement. This is what I was speaking of..ie..the fact that a particular Time frame was chosen for Him and the ‘miracles’ that He performed were beyond the understanding of those people as well as Him telling them that there will be a day when they will be able to do these things…even more. He also spoke of where He was from ie..’My kingdom is not of this world….But now My kingdom is from another place’. The fact that He is there in the beginning as well as the birth and in the end times, shows that He has mastered Time.
The ‘IT DID’ comment was to say that it did impact on those people and the future…We wouldn’t be having this conversation right now if it didn’t.
Also says that the Time will come when…’The mysteries of God will be reveiled’
Sharon.
Sharon.
Scott,
The first part of my comment was about the movie…When I wrote ‘ie’, I was continuing with the Bible writings..not the movie…I was in a hurry to go out and didn’t explain that properly. Thanks.
Sharon.
Sharon.
Just something to think about..
If you were to travel back in time and you stood there looking at yourself in that time frame, what would happen if you destroyed yourself in that Time frame? Would you, as the travelling you, just ‘not exist’ anymore or would you be a separate entity and go back(forward) to the original Time frame and just continue to live your life..and how would that effect that life? Would your family just see you as they did that same morning or would they be shocked to see you? So simple yet so complex!
John 16:12
Sharon.
Sharon.
If you change anything in the past, even something minute you can change the future rather dramatically. And of course you could kill youself or your parents or change something so you wouldn’t exist and then you couldn’t exist in the future to come back and change things. I don’t know why people think that the future can be known or that time travel is possible. Pure fantasy. The future hasn’t happened yet and the problem above makes me think it could never happen.
If you change anything in the past, even something minute you can change the future rather dramatically. And of course you could kill youself or your parents or change something so you wouldn’t exist and then you couldn’t exist in the future to come back and change things. I don’t know why people think that the future can be known or that time travel is possible. Pure fantasy. The future hasn’t happened yet and the problem above makes me think time travel could never happen.
Scott,
If I had a ‘Time machine’ and said that you were to go back and destroy yourself right now..how is it that you are here to do this if you should not exist when the mission is completed? ie..you are here now, you’re family wave you off as they know of your mission…then what? Do you come back? Do you’re family just forget you?(which means you branch off into a different futurepath?) or are you just the same and you and you’re family don’t tell anyone that you are really still alive? What.
Sharon.
Sharon.
One just to think about again..
Let’s say a man in the future, formed an embryo with his DNA…went back in Time and found a surregant for that embryo…That baby grew up to be the man who went back in Time!
This would make him father AND son,
Two entites..yet they be one.
Sharon.
Sharon.
One of the age old mysteries…God was there in the beginning…before anything else…before anything was created…He was there…when there was nothing. How could that be? Hard to grasp isn’t it? Now, after all these discussions..think about it again.
Sharon.
Sharon.
You have to take into consideration that man can only use a small percentage of his brain so there can be more advanced techonogly for even our thoughts to accept I think there are UFO’s out there