Police Helicopter Chases UFO in Wales after Near Miss
Friday June 20, 2008
An incident that occurred on June 7, has just been made public. An unknown aircraft, identified by the three crew members as "flying saucer-shaped," came straight toward a police helicopter, causing the government craft to "bank sharply" to avoid being hit. The incident occurred as the helicopter was waiting to land at the Ministry of Defense base at St. Athan, near Cardiff.
A South Wales police spokesman stated: "We can confirm the Air Support Unit sighted an unusual aircraft. This was reported to the relevant authorities for their investigation. They [crew members] are convinced it was a UFO. It sounds far-fetched, but they know what they saw."
The crew gave chase to the UFO, but soon ran out of fuel, and turned back to the base. The incident was reported on the BBC News. There will probably be more on this as new details come in, but you can read the entire report at Police Chase UFO over St. Atham, Cardiff. Check it out, and make comments if you wish.
Comments
Our Creator could have used any method that He desired to create this UFO. Why do we always try to find a way to explain UFOs on Earth without God?
To MrBabyMan & other religious people:
That is a pointless comment as exchanging one unknown with another does not answer anything or solve a problem.
It’s like if you got run over by a car because you forgot to look and saying that was god’s will when you should learn to be more careful and look where you’re going.
Also show me proof of a god existing. And even if we could prove god does exist in the future we would be interested in how he/she/it works rather than just accepting that’s his/her/its will.
It’s human nature to be inquisitive that’s how we evolve. If we were all like you we would still be living in caves worshipping the sun and stars as gods accepting everything without question.
I’v never personelly belived in UFO’s. But then. last night, just past midnight. 21 plans came flying over the sky. they where shining bright orange. and they never blinked. there didn’t disapere in the horaisent, but they just keept flying towards the stars, and then I couldn’t se them, they just looked like stars. They never maid a sound, and their formations, it was unbelivabel…
Wow,all I can say is it’s all really interesting!Let’s see where it all goes from here!
There is nothing preventing anyone from using their imagination and creativity to develop a theology, pertaining to extraterrestrial life. The case in the UK, with the helicopter, is yet another primary source in the history of UFOs.
I have always wanted to believe that there is other life out there, my dad is quite a pessimist and have always tried giving alternative explanations to sightings.
But a few week’s ago driving at night in the Cardiff area I noticed about 5 bright yellow lights (like big bulbs) in the sky all in a line which at the time freaked me out a bit, I tried telling myself they were something else but it didn’t make sense. But it has only now come to mind after the events in st. Athans!! Could this be related???
To John…
How do we know that AIR exists? We can’t see it or feel it. We only know it exists because of what it does. We see trees move..dust blow around..even cars and houses. We know there is a “God” because of what we see. Try to create a human with nothing.
God is not religion. Religion is something mankind has created. God is just a fact. I don’t believe that God is a humanoid sitting high up in the sky with a beard. God is everywhere. Think of this universe before even the tinest molecule was created. What was there before? Just a huge dark space. That is God. God is the absence of all matter. God is NO THING. That’s why God is everywhere. That’s why God knows everything we do. God is pure energy..and very powerful…scarey.
If there are people in other solar systems, they were created the same way we were….by God..
To anne
That’s a more logical viewpoint than religion’s take, although we don’t know if any higher forms of life we could call a god exist. It’s interesting speculation to say that all the universe is part of an individual higher lifeform in a similar way to how a particle of skin on your hand is part of you. But to assume that is an all-seeing god which knows everything and has power over everything is silly. If you find that scary why bother thinking there is a need for one. If god came from nothing as you believe, why can’t the universe just come from nothing or from somewhere just yet unexplained.
You say we know there is a god because of what we see - again just assuming the unexplained is too amazing to just happen by itself.
You’re correct in saying humans cannot come from nothing. You first need the hydrogen from the early universe to fuse together in stars to produce heavier elements like carbon, hydrogen and oxygen. This is mainly what a human is composed of in terms of chemical elements.
To finish off with we know air exists because of many laboratory experiments concluding air is comprised of mostly nitrogen and oxygen. We can repeat tests to prove this. To say a god must exist because you think the world is too complicated to have formed itself is your narrow mind limiting your perception. If we can ever prove a god exists then I’ll be happy to say we were created by a supreme being, but until then I’m happy with just accepting things up to a point as facts with the rest yet unknown to science. Science is a continuous expanding array of knowledge, and just accepting things as produced by god will will hinder any future progress that is to be made. We all use everyday items that were invented by people who were inquisitive about how something could be done, rather than by people who thought ‘we have the answer already - god has made the world’. Remember that next time you use your computer or mobile phone.
Hi John. I guess it all boils down to either one believes or one doesn’t.
There is more going on in this world than just the human aspect of it. There are spirits. I know it sounds like an old episode of Twilight Zone, but I DO believe in spirits. I have had first hand knowlege of them within the past three years. I doubted once, I will never doubt again. Someone who has never had an experience like I had could not possibly believe…and I wouldn’t blame them. If I have proof of and believe in a spirit life, then I HAVE to believe in a God…because God is spirit.
I am not a weirdo who delves into tarot cards and seances. I am the first one to dismiss them as ridiculous. But I have NO doubt…there IS another life for us. All that dies is the body..the spirit lives on…I KNOW that!
I don’t know how old you are. You sound very intelligent, but you sound like a lot of younger people today. I’ve met them at work and all over. They say…”Prove to me that there is a god.” I say “no…you will find out soon enough.”
I have to laugh now…I mean..what has all this to do with Flying Saucers??!! I can only say..I have never seen one..so I don’t believe in them..
To anne
How will we find out soon enough about god??
What information do you have on his arrival.
Millions of people have seen UFOs in south east England its around 1 in 4 people.
I have never discounted the possibility of another life after death or higher forms of life, but without proof its just speculation.
There aren’t any credible witnesses that come forward who have seen god, most are in a mental asylum. Where ex-military, current military offcicers, pilots & other credible witnesses have seen UFOs. I’m not talking about them in the sense as flying saucers because they have been in many shapes and sizes. When people describe religious events happening to them it could be likely that they are experiencing something extraterrestrial.
If there are religious events to report then it is the onus of the people who see things to come forward, so you can see how my viewpoint might be. So rather than just saying you know of a god it would make sense to elaborate further.
This is not about a belief for me, you seem to be the type of person who puts most of their thought into what your gut says rather than using common sense. After any facts, the rest is only speculation. Could you explain how you think you know spirits exist and how you connect that to a god? Why can’t we have only higher forms of life that are not all-seeing and all-powerful, but rather just extra-dimensional that co-exists with us on another level, rather than what a typical description of a god would do expecting us to blindly accept existence as faith, and if we failed to do so attempt to punish us after death. I fail to see the need for anyone to blindly accept the existence of a god even if you have a feeling you will still exist as energy after death. To make the assumption there must be a god from that is a large leap of faith that I would not be willing to accept.
I also forgot to mention that even if you could somehow prove that humans can exist as pure energy after death floating around the ether that does not automatically prove that we have a creator. It would only prove that we don’t understand our evolution as fully as we first thought.
To John. OK..you’re right. There is no God. You win..I lose.
Interesting Discussion. I am undertaking Masters Degree Research into UFOs, Abduction etc, collective contact etc, and looking at theological, social and other implications of this question. If there is anyone at all who is interested in this, would like to chat with me or generally contribute then please feel free to email me at nextstaralong@gmail.com thanks!
Anne, With regards to your comment on UFOs:
‘I have to laugh now…I mean..what has all this to do with Flying Saucers??!! I can only say..I have never seen one..so I don’t believe in them.. ‘
Have you seen God? Do you believe in him? Your argument is flawed. If you choose to believe in God then that is your choice, but please don’t laugh at those who choose to believe in flying saucers as this undermines your own personal viewpoint. Each to their own I say.
I’m intrigued by both, but think that alien life is going to be far more likely.
Good morning Dee.
My “laughing” was because the subject turned from UFO’s to God. My comment was very tongue-in-cheek. I was using it to make a point about a belief in a creator. My “argument” wasn’t flawed..I was not arguing. You are free to believe what you wish to believe. I have no idea as to whether “UFOs” from OTHER PLANETS exist or not. UFO means UNIDENTIFIED flying object. This means simply that the object in the sky hasn’t been identified. Once they have been identified, they are no longer UFOs.
Why do people get so bent out of shape if others don’t share the same beliefs? Life is short..relax..enjoy…
UFOs are not a belief, it’s like saying you believe in the Eiffell tower.
Check out the recent UFO reports in the UK. Mass sighting with many witnesses. An amateur astronomer said he saw a dozen orange orbs with 3 dots on them zig-zagging around the sky, his entire family viewed the same thing. Different people from other locations reported seeing a similar object. A Psychology professor from Cardiff University said the sightings in Cardiff he saw around the same time as the police helicopter saw a UFO did not look anything like a balloon/lanterns, as they were too big and too high up to be that. These are credible witnesses to UFOs and are evidence to suggest UFOs exist. This doesn’t automatically mean aliens, just an “Unidentified Flying Object”.
People who believe in anything without seeing any shred of evidence at all, mainly religious beliefs and god are all deluded idiots.
As soon as god makes himself apparent in the sky like UFOs have appeared to do, then you can have my respect for your beliefs, which at the minute seem very silly.
“This doesn’t automatically mean aliens, just an “Unidentified Flying Object”.”
I’m sorry..thought that was the point I was making. Thanks for clarifying.
“People who believe in anything without seeing any shred of evidence at all, mainly religious beliefs and god are all deluded idiots.”
Now that I am a total non-believer, I agree wholeheartedly! There is no god!!! I am now going to live the rest of my life with that in mind. After all..it is such a simple concept..don’t know why it took so long for me to see the light…can’t see it?..it doesn’t exist..SUPER!
I feel so free now..just knowing that no matter what I do from here on in, I will have no one to answer to. Thank you, John for setting me straight. It is so easy being an atheist!!
As soon as god makes himself apparent in the sky like UFOs have appeared to do, then you can have my respect for your beliefs, which at the minute seem very silly.
Er..uh…John? Why do you refer to a non-creator as a male human? All my years as a believer, I just assumed that the creator didnt have a sex…you know..like..sex is for humans. Do you know something I don’t know????
I should have said
“As soon as god makes itself apparent in the sky like UFOs have appeared to do, then you can have my respect for your beliefs, which at the minute seem very silly. ”
Thank you for pointing out that mistake.
No need to get yourself wound up over this. Most athiests would find it highly intriguing if any kind of higher life form would make itself apparent to us.
We do have our own conscious to answer to and we can live a good life without worrying about a god or what may be after death.
“We do have our own conscious to answer to and we can live a good life without worrying about a god or what may be after death.”
Why live a good life??? WHO defines what is good or bad? Why is it considered wrong to kill someone? Why is it considered wrong to steel from someone. I mean..these laws all came from the Old Testament. We atheists do not believe in the Old Testament! Believers will tell you that the OT came from god. All our laws today originated from the ten commandments..so sad…there outta be a law!!!
“No need to get yourself wound up over this.”
Au contraire. I’m having fun..nothing like a good stimulating conversation!
Common sense defines most good or bad things, some things can be open to dispute but are minor things. Most normal people would know why it is good thing to try and lead a good life.
The bible is written by man so the laws written there are just stuff considered common sense for the time, and we have just developed our laws nowadays from previously written laws.
Also no one is forcing you to live a good life if you don’t want to. I was just making a point that you don’t need a supreme creator to answer to for a meaningful life.
Last of all I can’t believe you are asking these basic questions. Either you are a young child or not very intelligent.
If you can’t imagine how not murdering and not stealing are evolved boundaries which our brains define as common sense then picture this.
When humans were more primitive creatures and there were only a few on the Earth it would have become apparent that to survive as a species they should stop killing each other and work together. Those that did this survived and passed on those positive traits. Those which killed each other did not. That’s why most people in today’s world would not even consider murdering anyone. Stealing food from a neighbours cave was also counter-productive and so most people would not consider stealing today as they have been bred to respect one another. A human flaw which remains in this is that the need for survival can overcome this respect and when food was short the primitive humans would have stolen food from others. This remains a common occurence today when people loot, for example in Iraq after the invasion, the locals looted anything they could find in sheer panic and desperation.
“Either you are a young child or not very intelligent.”
What!? I can’t be BOTH?? There seems to be a charactor flaw in many atheists….they have a need to insult and degrade folks who just don’t agree with them. They just don’t realize that believers in a Higher Intelligence, (do I dare use the word GOD??), have an inner strength which prevents them from being hurt by such remarks. It’s sort of like a three year old child calling an adult “stupid”. The adult just laughs it off..knowing that the child hasn’t a clue.
Live your life, John, but when “God” comes up behind you and bites you on the back of the neck….and he will…remember me…..the name is ANNE..
This has been fun, but fun times must end..I found another thread to participate in…
I considered you could be both but didn’t see the necessity to say that.
Nobody has forced you to stay and respond on here.
I’m sure if there just happened to be a god it wouldn’t mind me not believing in it right now, as it would have been it that gave me an intelligence to think of explanations for how the universe works, rather than being a sheep like you.
This is not about disagreement of beliefs because I don’t believe in anything that can’t be proven to exist, and if it’s insulting that you don’t like the fact that you are likely deluding yourself by having a belief then that’s your problem alone.
Your so called inner strength prevents you from realising any of this, and as soon as anything contradicts your beliefs your false inner strength would crumble. The way you react to any suggestion that there’s no proof god existing is an excellent example of this.
From what you just said your god doesn’t sound very higher in intelligence although it wouldn’t have to be very intelligent for you to consider it a higher intelligence. If a god did exist it’d be disappointed that you were wasting time just believing rather than questionning everything for once. Does your god have some neck fetish or is it some kind of vampire! I doubt I’ll remember you, or a higher being would even notice you.
This has been amusing, most of your remarks only point out the fact that I called your god a “he” because I was using a generic description most people would use. And your latest remark pointing out that I should consider you both stupid and young. You haven’t got any proper answers for most of the points I’ve made, apart from saying that’s what you believe therefore just confirming everything I’ve said about you deluding yourself.
I never actually said you must stop believing in god if you interpret correctly, only that it makes you deluded according to known facts only.
Just to finish with, you’re a typical religious/believer person who has no answers for anything I’ve mentioned, and will always attempt to get the last word in without saying anything useful. This is usually an attempt to scare the other person into believing, and to repeat the fact that they believe in god to prevent them from waking up one day and questioning their beliefs and wondering why believe in it without evidence. This is in contrast to what I’ve been saying which actually has some meaning.
I wonder what others think about this conversation apart from it appearing a little childish which is obvious, but regardless is only meant for fun even if it involves what some (mostly deluded) people would consider serious issues.
p.s. the loss of a religious believer is no loss to this forum whose content is mainly about things people actually see, and not just an imaginative creator. Goodbye.
“It’s started to rain, oh no maybe I have angered god!” (sarcasm implied)
But luckily I don’t have such stupid reasoning like god believers. Classic.
i know this sighting was a surprise to the crew,but i wonder if any of them managed to turn their night camera on to capture this craft?if yes,who has this footage??
John you are boring!!!!!!!!!!you cant have many friends.GOD DAMN!!!i only read your first 2 comments and that was enough!have a good life!lol
i have seen a U.F.O it was new years eve and i was standing out side with my mates and something cought my eye. i looked up and a orange sphere flew past not to fast and it looked quite close but i couldnt judge. it flew at a constant velocity and did not go up and down like something blowing in the wind i watched it float by for about a good 30 secs it was there. there was no structer it, it looked perfectly round and had no lights but was quite visable. i really want to see it again i couldnt beileve it…..sorry if you coldnt understan this im not that literate. because i have seen that unexplainable thing i am convinsed there is intelagent life out there…the universe is vast it is more than likely there is something out there it gose on for ever there is no end…………
I agree whole-heartedly with John. I think he sounds like an interesting bloke to be honest.
Anne, the one saying that I take from the bible is ‘do unto to others as you would have done unto you’ (I think it’s the bible it’s from!?)… surely this should suffice at the gates of heaven even if you don’t believe in a god.
Anyway… about these UFOS…
Nigel, it’s not my fault you aren’t clever enough to understand my comments lol.
You think writing 2 line comments like you do about nothing is more interesting?!
Most people have times in their life when they are bored or just have a bit of free time, and try something new like posting comments here like I’ve done.
Official word is the police helicopter didn’t give chase and that no photos had been taken possibly because it moved too fast or they were surprised. It’s possible they did give chase or photos exist, if that’s true officials would unlikely admit that, we will have to just wait until the witnesses come forward that could tell us more.
As a former employee, I know with absolute certainty that the object in question is a weapon/surveillance device built by BAE systems on behalf of the UK Government.