There is a web site called Escape the Illusion, which claims that on October 14, a giant UFO will visit Earth, Alabama, to be exact. You might ask, "How do they know this?" Well, how else? channeling, of course.
As you may know, channeling is the ability to receive mental telepathy from another person, or in this case, consciousness. The group claims to have received a message from the "Federation of Light." Now, you probably already know what I think about this, but do go over and check out the video on youtube, and tell me that I haven't lost my mind. Here is what the group is saying:
Blossom's most recent book "The Bridge," documents the messages channeled to her by the Cosmic Beings known as The Federation of Light. In her most recent encounters with them, they have announced that one of their craft will appear in our skies on October 14, 2008, for a period of three days in such a way as to prove to us the existence of other life forms in the Universe. The Federation of Light stress that they come in LOVE to help us, and our planet move to a new Higher Vibration of Love. They have asked Blossom to get this message out to as many people as possible.
I have been criticized in the past for my open stance on certain things like this, but I am a realist, and I will go out on a limb here and tell you that I have created a new name for the web site. Instead of "Escape the Illusion," let's call it "Escape the Delusion." Folks, THIS is what gives Ufology a bad name. Weigh in, and post your thoughts on this.
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Well just what we did not need, was one more nut case to make ufology look bad. I agree with you 100% this is exactly what gives ufology a bad name. The first thing that came into my mind when I read your article and checked out the video on youtube. The words “Federation Of Light” brings to mind episodes from the orginal star trek shows. There are many episodes in the star trek series that Captain Kirk and Mr Spock speak of the federation and specifically the federation of light in at least 3 episodes that I remember. So maybe you just have a trekie fan claiming to be more than they are.
Please do not get me wrong I do believe that human beings are capable of telepathy but in no way will I buy one person was singled out to spread a message from another planet. I’m sorry but that is the biggest crock of #$%%^#$
I have heard of lately. But keep in mind there are many people out there that will buy into all of that, which brings me back to what I said at the start ” just what we did not need was one more nut loose on the forest floor shooting us down” Hopefully one of them may read my comments so in the event that they do, all I have to say to you people is get a grip on reality this is not a star trek show we live in although I fully believe in existence of life outside of this world. I do not believe in the crap you people draw up in your mind and then try to pass it off as real.
Well billy, this one takes the cake but remember there are so many people out there that knows ufo’s exist and if mainstream science is still disagreeing with us, then let them one day I’m sure we will have the proof that we need to say to them ” see I told you so”
Debbie R. Lexington Ky
Not sure if my other post made it so I will try one more time, as far as the Illusion of Light or whatever it is, that is the biggest
bunch of ( I can’t say that one here but you understand what I mean) I have heard of lately. This one really takes the cake and as I said before just what we did not need was one more nut loose on the forrest floor trying to shoot ufology down further. You are right that is exactly what gives ufology a bad name. Hopefully one of these days we will have the real proof we need to say to the non believers “see I told you so” and to blossom or whoever in my other post that I do not think made it on here all I have to say on that deal is get a grip on reality and furthermore the words the federation is in a ton of the orginal star trek shows and there are at least 3 episodes that I know of that they talk specifically about the federation of light so you people wanna knock it off with trying to live out your life as captain kirk or mr spock. I most certainly believe in life outside of this world but in no shape fashion or form do I believe that one person or a small group of people where singled out to relay a meassage to the rest of the earth. Geeeezzzzzzzzzzzz you people kill me, get it together folks before they come tote you away.
Well if it is possible we need to make it known that ufologist do not believe in what the Illusion of light or what ever it is called has to say and we do not back them in any way. Debbie R. Lexington Ky
October 14th… Probably nothing will happen.
BUT I think it is weak to already start laughing at these people.
They believe in something that can’t be explained. Something weird.
Who am I to dismiss their claims? I sure don’t like it when someone does it with ‘regular’ Ufology, so why do we need to laugh at them?
Just wait for October to come, and then you are entitled to say something about this.
I certainly *hope* something will happen. All of the channelers feel very strongly about this one. They all point to the same date and say time after time explicitly that the Aliens (GFL) WILL come at the 14th (or at least in October).
It isn’t too hard to just sit back and watch it unfold, instead of making fun of them with lame jokes like “Escape the Delusion”, is it?
If nothing happens, they will have shot themselves in their own foot. They are staking all their credibility on this one.
So if nothing happens: problem solved, and they won’t give predictions like this for a long time.
If something DOES happen: well…that would be great wouldn’t it?
Always (and I emphasize ALWAYS) keep an open mind. No matter ow outlandish a claim may seem.
You never know…
May be the following article will be of some interest to you all.
http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0908/blossom.html
J – I couldn’t agree with you more. You said everything I was thinking.. well stated and thank you.
C’Mon people!! As J said, isn’t this EXACTLY the same dismissive mindset that has put our area of interest, ufology, in the position it is in?
Billy, you and I sometimes disagree, and that is healthy for debate. In this case, I think you are totally damaging your own credibility on this one. Let’s face it, more people in this country, maybe the world, would call you a kook before calling you a visionary. This is because of countless other marginalizing comments made about UFOs since Roswell. I would like to think that you are more open minded than that. And, to pass it off as being a “realist” is quite a weak claim as you and I do NOT Know what reality is.. as PROVEN by our completely child-like knowledge of the universe around us and even the dimensional reality (which string theory and others claim is much more than 3 dimensions of space and 1 of time, and many agree).
Not trying to bash Billy here, or anybody else.. but as J said so well, these channelers have staked quite a bit of their credibility on this one, so let’s wait until end of October before bashing them.
By the way, just an interesting side note for anybody who is so “grounded in reality”.. the web bot predictive software (halfpasthuman.com) has predicted many, many things accurately in the past few years and is predicting a HUGE world transition beginning on or very near October 7th.. could this be the same event as the 10/14 UFO? Who knows, but let’s strive to be welcoming, yet discerning versus stone-walled dismissive.
Sorry for the soapbox moment.
I have lately contributed on Billys site to tell you all I did witness in the night another form of intelligence. It was a greyish mass which appeared and dissapated in my doorway. Next then appeared a vertical column of white light which moved slowly and intelligently around my room and then rushed towards me very quickly. Thats all I will say. I am repeating this because you all search for the truth and this is I promise you..the truth. I live with the memory always. What I cannot understand is why the witnesses are all so diverse in their descriptions. Mine was nothing of the solid nature but translucent and not earthly. As for ‘greys’ and hearing voices..that is another persons experience. Myself and other genuine witnesses are gradually enlighting you all in small steps.
I agree with BJ on this one. If UFOlogy is to be taken seriously, we must be grounded in science, not “feelings” and “channeling.” Supposedly, one of the most accurate channelers ever was Edgar Cayce, and more than half of his predictions never came to be either (Atlantis rising back to the surface, etc.) We have to realize that channeling, albeit “possibly possible”, is not something we should rely on for UFO research. If we do that, we might as well not try and fix the worlds problems and wait for “Jesus” or some other deity to come back and save us all from ourselves. (No offense to any Christians). It’s just not practical, and if the belief is wrong, we’ve staked a lot on nothing that we could have put on rational means to solve the problem at hand.
This message has come to at least 4 people (I know 4 different sources) and it is logical to announce something beforehand to not cause panic etc. To me it seems logical and true information because message is so clear and it has been trough different persons…
Here I finally see ufos and I mean real ufos and here comes a wacko.It’s so sad that people like this ruin real investications.Because of her we are seen as wackos.There are real ill people out there that need attention and like”Jones” they will follow her to eternity if the need arises for her to prove her worth,if you understand my meaning.It really scares me that people good people listen to this junk.It’s just like the videos that are faked cheeze get a life this is so serious.We need to stop playing around and people need to really focus on what is happening in our goverment and our people. Just like the fisherman I am so afraid to be taken the hell he went thru I know in my heart the goverment is letting them do this cause they are recieving information from the aliens what does it hurt to let them probe us(a whole lot)Sorry, to get back to this channeling I would be so embarresed if what I said didn’t get threw Oh ya the weather caused it belive me I am channeling now for them OH YA SURE.Now what do I do if it happens LOL LOL LOL
Look at Blossom’s own website. Her site states Alabama was never part of the deal.
She doesn’t live in the US, and her interpretation of the message is Antartica.
Talk about running off to left field…
Something does seem to be transcribing lately..Hell of a lot of reports….Lots of mental phenomena…and not just with these people…Maybe there will be some kind of paradigm shift in the near future…Things sure seem to be warming up..
If they are to come, let them come. I grow old, and tired of waiting. Sometimes I think if I hear one more story that can’t be proven: one more theory not based on fact: or one more supposed enlightened one speak, I will scream.
Well Billy, some folks think that anyone who believes in UFO’s is insane, but I can definately tell you that if this event occurs, you, my man, are going to look like the worlds biggest fool. You expect people to buy the UFO thing as real but cannot have an open mind on a prediction of a planned sighting. I myself will wait until it either occurs or doesn’t before I make a comment which would be the intelligent thing to do.
Cap. You are missing the point here. Ever heard of Bo and Peep? I thought not. I knew them. This was before they founded the order called “Heavens Gate”. Again I say: We need no more enlightened ones with their hidden knowledge, secret communications, and plans to lead us to cosmic nirvana. What the world is in great need of is concrete evidence and truth. I am not impuning this woman’s beliefs. There is some chance she may be right. I actually hope she is.
BJ, If you’re worried about giving UFOlogy
a bad name, perhaps it’s time you give up the ufocasebook.com site. You constantly post pictures there, submitted by the public, which show easily identifiable objects, birds, or have an error pointing to a microscopic dot, and claim that is a ufo.
You disabled the comments section for submitted photos as well. You are exact opposite of credible, IMHO. Perhaps you could clean up your own house first, before accusing others. I think that some UFO sightings are the result of credible airial phenomenon, including military craft, and potentially, “other world” travellers, but enough is enough.
I too have my suspensions about blossom and her predictions. i think that she can be dangerous to those who have a weak mind such as the jim jones, and heaven gates groups. i know that they are out there and we need to put my time into educating the world on the truth based on science and not fairy tales. it upsets me to see ufology being so exploited even byyou billy as someone pointed out you have not always presented the truth in reporting especiallly in the photo area. some pictures are laughable, birds for saucers, hubcaps and the like. so clean up your house as the guy stated, I love your site though because there are some good reporting as well if you have the time and patience to look thru and analyze the facts from fictions. some people don’t have that time and read a few articles or see a couple of phony picture and they are out of there for good. Blossom sounds like a kook, but i hope that what she says is true that is the only way some people will believe, others are waiting for the ufo’s to land on the whitehouse lawn. that will never happen because when they do appear they will be looking for intelligent life, and we all know that there is none anywhere within a 50 mile radius of the whitehouse
If we didn’t have Billy Booth we would have alot of the (blank) on the computer. Billy shows us and tells us reports and then leaves us to decide what is true or not.What is wrong with you people thats what he has a forum for.If you don’t like his site gladly go some place else and complain.We all have opinions if it happens it happens WHO CARES. Billy would be the first one to admit he was wrong. But I think she is a dangerous person like I wrote before.I’ll eat my words if she is right but you don’t have to be a-s h-l-s to someone that gives us good info.If you don’t like this site START YOU’R OWN SITE.I am very happy with Billys site.I have learnt alot from Billys blogs and I do believe things are coming to a head but then people have waited many years and nothing. It may not come in my lifetime but it will come.I’am not willing to follow anyone to eternity like so many have because of predictions.I just think she is after money cause she has written a book and I guess some will buy it.But a warning don’t follow be a leader do your own thing and for darn sakes don’t die cause someone says to. People are so weak help one another the right way,help clean up the earth be good and kind to one another.We should all be ashamed if we are getting company cause our home(earth) is so dirty.My space here on earth is clean how about yours?????
Escape the Delusion is right, these people are the worst of the breed
‘ Thats all I will say. I am repeating this because you all search for the truth and this is I promise you..the truth. I live with the memory always. What I cannot understand is why the witnesses are all so diverse in their descriptions. Mine was nothing of the solid nature but translucent and not earthly. As for ‘greys’ and hearing voices..that is another persons experience. Myself and other genuine witnesses are gradually enlighting you all in small steps.’
Thanks for the help Shirely.
I Think Billy is trying to protect himself against marshall law. You crazy billy don’t get thrown into one of those 3 man coffins!!!
Being too firmly grounded in the conventional wisdom of modern science may prevent or delay progress; there is, always has been and always will be, a place for the imagination in science.
Having said that, bold claims are best presented sensibly.
And, while we are on the subject of the paranormal, I’m not sure how comfortable I am with the fact that most world leaders believe that God(or Gods) exist. So they all believe in the paranormal!
Thank you Scott.
As far as some of you wanting evidence. Well I am sorry but you cannot if what you experience isnt physical and not of this world. What I encountered must have entered by some sort of dimension. If we could videotape a thought or memory I would certainly post it first class to Billy for you. Lastly I think there must be something special about you all..to be drawn together on this site.
Totally correct…All of us here are seekers of truth…One day we will all need each other…Billy keep up the good work..
I hope their prediction is true…it would be nice to have the existence of aliens proven to everyone once and for all.
But lets be honest here. This is most likely more trash. More quacks embarassing themselves and the UFO community in general.
great..!! Do u..know any bookmakers..where i can place..a bet..with 1,000,000/1 odds..on .that..?
Well, not to through off subjects nor beliefs and theories. Even if I may be made a fool and laughing stock, I at least like to walk away saying I told someone in case it does happen.
Now I myself am a Spiritualist, I interact with the paranormal, and see things beyond this worlds comprehension. If this vision comes true I’ll be back here to post my other 2. But for the time being, about 7months ago, I had a vision about “Space Shuttle Atlantis” being destroyed in space. What does this have to do with this you may ask? Well to clear this up some, the next two visions reveal “Alien Invasion” to happen soon. I know posting this might bring upon making me a laughing stock, but I’d rather be a laughing fool than to be a “Visionary” that didn’t alert someone.
My last name is also Valentich. I remember first seeing this on unsolved mysteries some years ago. I’ve always wondered if I was related to Fredrick Valentich. If you were to see a picture of him next to my Father, I think you too would wonder. Does anyone know how I could find out?
Why is it that people will believe in UFO’s but won’t or can’t believe that aliens might want to make contact? If persons believe that contact is about to be made all of the sudden they are considered kooks. I went to a UFO lecture a while back and one of the things mentioned by this group is that “visitors” have already made contact with people of earth. They have given lectures and met with powerful persons in government. The group also mentioned that a alien gave a lecture at a prominent college in California (back in the 60’s) and Gene Roddenberry attened this meeting and that is where he got the idea for Star Trek and as far fetched as some of his theories/stories, some of it is based on what he heard at the lecture. ie: federation of planets. So mock Star Trek if you will but remember if not for Star Trek some of our greatest scientists and space program people would not be where they are today. Many have admitted that the show was an inspiration to them and gave them the drive to have a career in their fields. Not to mention inventions of items that were inspired by the gadgets of Star Trek.
You might laugh at the Keepers of the Light, but remember believers in UFO’s are laughed at by a large majority of the population because they think you(we) are nutz. One man’s fact is another man’s folly.
Hey guys,
Here’s the real truth: http://www.finallyexposed.com
Thanks Ben, that site just helped put the other half of the puzzle together for me. I think it’s time that “We” the human race, break away from what we call life and begin “The Movement of Awakening” until truth hits the surface and we are free from control. By the way another interesting Book or message to look up is something called “The Case for the UFO” very interesting book. By M.K. Jessup
Great one Ben loved the message there. Also love the red pill vs blue pill imagery.
Also… I have to agree with what a lot of folks have said here. Who are we to belittle and discredit someone else for their beliefs? Blossom isn’t telling anyone to go off and kill themselves on Oct. 14th. The attempt to link this to Heaven’s Gate is kinda silly. Hell if we’re going to go that far we would have to accuse Billy as well.
Ben, checked out the truth site, has some interesting comments, statements, some of which I have been professing for years.
Maybe ‘the truth’ will be realised one day, me thinks we are about to find out that Mars was our fore-runner planet in evolution of the human race. It was inhabited long before Earth was capable of sustaining life. So put them cookies in your pocket.
I am an ‘individual’ and no longer concede to the controlling powers, as a recluse, I now live my life. although no support is given to this lifestyle by the ‘humane’ society.
later, Jim
This message is for Motherpan: I want you to understand that I was not mocking star trek, I loved those shows so much that I still watch the re-runs when they are on. I was simply trying to point out that Blossom said they called there self the federation of light as I stated before I know in alot of the star trek shows they referred to the federation and in 3 episodes I know for a fact they referred to the federation of light. Do you understand where I’m going with this, I’m not mocking star trek I’m trying to point out how easily it is for anyone to take something from past times and turn it around a little and try to pass it off as being something new that may be on the verge of occuring according to there beliefs. I stand behind ufos 100% and I would love to have proof so that we can say to those who do not believe we told you so at the same time I have a hard time believing that intelligent life from other worlds would single out one individual to relay a message to the rest of us, especially by appearing over antarctica of all places why there? why not over a state that they would be seen by thousands? that is there purpose to make there self known is it not? Her prediction just does not make any sense it does not add up in other words. If someone told me that they had telepathic contac with aliens and they would make there self known by appearing over say the state of I don’t know florida or california or texas so that they would be seen by many to prove there existence then I would most likley take that person seriously but for you to tell me that they are going to show up over antartica and want you to relay the message to as many as possible, I’m sorry but I find the facts do not come together on that. Just stop and think about it for a moment, does it make sense to appear over a area that is desolate in parts? and to ask one person to relay a message and furthermore I do believe for that matter that aliens have been among us for a long time now but we see them in human form, your government is fully aware of what is occuring and they will never admit the real truth to any of us. That is all I have to say on this matter.
youre either gonna look like a REALLY big fool running around paranoid out of your mind, going psycho because you dont know what you are doing or what your purpose here on this planet is and blend in with the majority or youre gonna look like an average person who called channelers fools and blend in with the majority.
The write of this article is a divisive fool.
Im not a believer in this myself, im sitting on the fence and waiting to see. If it does happen I’ll be thinking ‘is this bluebeam’.
His attitude towards others who have a different mindset to him whilst in similar categories is appaling, especially as like I said he himself is into things which would automatically leave him branded as a nut by others. You would think he would know better and show a little consideration to others.
“Mother Hens” like this guy are what give UFO Research a bad name. I would say grow up but I guess at your age you will be set firmly in your ways.
I suggest you all read the ‘original’ message from Blossom’s web site. I found some things disturbing like, ’souls’ ‘ascention’ and ‘if our human form will choose…’
Maybe this is my old catholic background rearing its head – but for a soul to ascend; the physical body must die. Am I being too literal? The message can be taken on a ’spiritual’ notion; if then, why the statement about ‘if our human forms will choose…’??
If it does happen, sounds like hostile propaganda to me…..
listen. i dont understand why you people get pissed off for people doing what they want to do.
just chill out. stop ridiculing people you think you are above, and maybe listen to the message that they’re trying to get across instead of thinking ‘a bunch of nutty hippies are calling for a ufo’
you people are so negative. lighten up!
This comment did not come from Escape the illusion it came from Blossom goodchild and her website.
When I mentioned Star Trek it was because of what I heard how Roddenberry came up with some of his ideas such as the term “federation of planets” I know Blossom’s ideas seem far fetched but I have noticed that there are many websites where others have VERY similar beliefs regarding aliens and their agenda. I wonder if there are so many “kooks” with way out thoughts or if there is some merit to it all because of a large group of people professing the same or very similar thought. As I stated before my fiance has seen several ufo’s in Illinois over the power plant, watched US military jets chase them and shared many of these sighting with several citizens of that town.
He is now 69 and it was when he was in his late teens to early 30’s he saw this activity.
Also seeing an 8-9 foot tall being, red with red pulsating veins all over the body, with the strength to shred shot gun shells, brass and all, into confetti, who was standing in a national forrest is enough to make anyone a believer.
I just wish that something would happen so we can prove we are not alone.
ALSO: I too believe that Mars is part of our past. The story of Creation (sorry to any Christians) sounds more like beings terriforming earth, just like we are wanting to do on the moon and Mars now. And if you check out webpages with ufos and ancient art you see “saucer” like objects in art that was painted hundreds of years ago, that involves Jesus and Mary and other Holy subjects.
So quick to mock – too quick to get your facts straight – No, it is not happening in Alabama USA, it is predicted for Australia. Why don’t you properly check out the source then start your mockery. I greet you with Light & Love and truely hope that one day you will be able to see beyond the illusion.
Persoanally, I can’t wait until the 14th of October, be it Alabama, Antartica, Australia or wherever the Hell it is….as long as if it happens, there’s people there that can provide proof of it, I’m gonna be a happy bunny. Even if it doesn’t happen, that won’t stop me believing
I meant personally……damn typos
I’ve been monitoring the skies for the last past month every night around 3am. central time. And well I’ve taken notice to new stars forming in the midst of ones that’s been there. I live in in St.Louis, and I’m basically across the street from Illinois, and well I’ve been spotting lots of unusual sky activity over their above their fields near the Mississippi river. If anyone else lives nearby give it a check around 3am.
All we can do is just wait and see what will happen. Probably nothing will…….but one cannot say that it will not happen. Ufology already has a bad name anyway. Ufology, unfortunately, is categorized as pseudo-science, so what difference does it make?
We need to relax and just enjoy this circus.
Hey, none of us will know for sure until next month, but seriously, is there a need to ridicule the(several)people that claims to channel this information?
I quote Dale Carnegie; “Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain but it takes character and self control to be understanding and forgiving.” (and open minded(my words))
I, for one, would Love to experience such a happening!
Moria x
I’m just curious, have you guys studied Bible prophecy? The Bible warns there would be a strong delusion in the last days before the return of Jesus Christ. It will deceive those who refused to repent of their sins and trust in Jesus as their Saviour.
“And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:” (2 Thes 2:8-11)
Satan masquarades as an angel of light.
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)
Something to think about.
Who cares about Ufology… I hope it comes and blows EVERYONE’S MIND.
Forty-eight comments so far, all indicating that there is no shortage of “nuts” in the USA.
I’m number 49,I guess ?? (not American), and you can put me in with the other “nuts”, for wasting so much time reading this baloney.
I really think you are been very hypacritical when you slag these people of Billy as the Non believers I know think I am a crank from reading your web-site. I subscribe to “Escape the Illution” as a believer but if you read deeper into what they are trying to get across you may change your opinion after only reading this one article. We all have our beliefs and as the numourous coments on this subject have stated wait untill it either does or does not happen before being so scepticle. There is a lot happening in our skies all over the world with regards to sightings and they seem to be getting bolder as though the are building us up for the “big event” and I recall your coments regarding 2012 when you were equally dismissive, Just look at the “natural” weather disasters tht have been occuring, the world is in finacial meltdown and the Americans are itching to have a go at the Russians which would bring in the Chiness and start WW111 – all predicted by these so called cranks as you call them !!!
Hey John – Do yourself a favour. Get yourself a lexicon…(this way to the egress). Take your mind off UFO’s for a bit.
Researchers such as yourself have done SO MUCH for the UFO community over the years. Let’s see now: You are quick to deride what you don’t even know about nor have bothered to research, you claim to know what the proper way to record this is and what should be deemed “real” versus “explainable” even though you have personally never had contact with an ET, and then you proceed to state what the protocol should be even though its very clear that they can’t be bothered with your skepticism and thus choose to contact someone else!
How can you possibly know if this is real or not, and how can you state such a position with such unabashed confidence? I am an experiencer, and I have had telepathic communications with human ETs NOT born on this earth. In one case it was face to face. I know what I experienced. It was REAL. I was not asleep, I have total recall, and it was not sleep paralysis. I continue to have contact. I know these meetings are happening all over the globe at this time with “people like me”and I know that they have a program for disclosure that very deliberately keeps cynics like you out of it! They are not blocking you from this, YOU are blocking yourself.
This blockage is happening precisely because of your “by science only can we know” stance. They are a highly evolved group of beings precisely because they have long since successfully merged the ***spiritual*** with their technology. They seek out people who are wayyyyyy more open minded than the likes of you, and they don’t have to beam themselves into your living room to do it! They believe in free will, but not at the expense of a skepticism that is so strong that it automatically negates the potential that this could actually go beyond a 7th Grade Science Project mentality. Grow up. Evolve.
They are not showing up just to be told that they don’t meet your criteria because they don’t happen to be speaking with *YOU* in the manner you *think* they will communicate. Why is it so difficult an idea that they are telepathic? You ASSUME that they have advanced technology and that’s it, and screw the spiritual? You are throwing the baby out with the bathwater on this one, and you are going to regret it.
Shame on you for your unbridaled arrogance and narrow mindedness.
Here’s the very latest: World Press Reports…
BS SKYLAB LOSES AND ‘BAADER’ FAILS TO MATCH ‘DOWNFALL’.
HOWEVER EFA REVEALS UFO DISCOVERY AND SWEDEN’S METRONOME IS U.S.-BOUND. SLOVENIA SUBMITS AND ADDS OESTERLIN TO THE MIX.
So you can all rest easy now. (I guess you all knew it would come to this).
It’ll never happen, count on it. I’ll even put money on it. Would I like it to happen?…sure, but it won’t and I’ll be here on the 15th to tell you I told you so!!!
Hi Lauriate
Thanks for the advce.
Really nice name.
I will reserve my judgement until 15th October ….and that (I guess) is what we all should do.
Billy – I just checked out that http://www.truthism.com site and scrolled through it until my eyes blurred. I have an idea…let’s take those ideas, (especially the Masons and the Sonic Drive Ins and incorporate the entire lot into one book which explains everything from crop circles to reptilians. Every contact, easily explained and all new oddities wrapped within that singular explanation. Should be a best seller…what do you think? As for me..I believe that most of these site owners are smart enough to put copious advertising on the sites, along with donation boxes so perhaps they don’t even have to work for a living, eh? Bill
It must be true – they have started marking out the landing sites (second photo up from the bottom)
http://www.sarsen56.wordpress.com/more-graphics-2/
Did anyone care to think that it is very possible that in order to make contact, they need to “feel” the human race is actually ready and calling for them.
Comments that immediately dismiss any claims may quite possibly do harm to those of us that actually want to make contact.
In fact, if I go into a sort of medidative state before falling asleep, i can have some quite vivid dreams. Over the past month I have had some regarding UFOs and contact with a ship being seen and just sitting there allowing it to be observed. This was before i have learned of this supposed 10.14 event.
If you truly want this event to happen, wether you believe in it or not, I would hope you could at least all pray, meditate, channel, focus, whaever energy you need, to call upon the other beings out there to come aid us in thie time of need.
Maybe this is the sign they are looking for, so that they can feel confident that we are ready to evolve.
Thank you for the forum
I`m laughing my butt over this
) Well I`ll tell you what`s going to happen on the 14th of October … I`ll be 25 years old that`s what`s going to happen. I really like your website Billy. You have people here from every corner of the globe. I`m from Romania and I read your post regularly. Keep up the good work. Alex, Romania (Europe)
I’m tired of all this BS!
Collective hysteria!
Energy source is LOVE and does not need any space freekies to let us know that we are Divine!
Give me a break…please!
Do you not find it the least bit ironic that you’re just dismissing this in the same way so many people dismiss you and ufology altogether?
The next time someone laughs you off as a crackpot for you beliefs, remember what you’ve done here.
Wow…
Why is it that so many people care about someone belief in this or not?
Honestly, most people would consider you all kooks for believing in aliens. Just because someone has beliefs doesn’t make them wackos that discredit the science of UFOlogy, like many of you imply. And besides, why do so many of you commenters have the misconception that you KNOW what can and can’t be real. I sense a lot of personal offense stemmed from this belief. I’m not arguing for or against the channeled messages because that would be futile. Because no matter what you say, YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING. You can assume, and you might be right, but please, be more kind than to see a belief you don’t agree with and write off the believers as stupid. That unveils your arrogance, which is always hand in hand with ignorance.
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Here’s where the idea that man is God came from:
“Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.” (Genesis 3: 1-5)
It originated with Satan, the great deceiver.
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” (Revelation 12:9)
Satan deceived us and now we’ve become separated from God due to our sin. God is holy and we are not. Be forewarned as to who these angels really are.
Jesus is the Saviour of the world, not these fallen angels.
I think the chances of this coming true are a million to one. However, there is a prophecy in the Bible about false messengers of light so if something does happen be careful not to just follow the message.
Bigger picture on this is that many people who are aware (but not necessarily believing) of the Oct 14 prediction will, as I did, search for the event and find your site. This may spark their interest in more scientific based analysis in a few of these people, more so should the event not manifest.
Here’s something for you to contemplate. Forget the 14th October prediction and just consider the following. Most people here have seen a ufo or experienced something they feel was unexplainable. Therefore surely you may be expecting aliens to disclose themselves to us at some point, unless the governments do so first. Now with more and more people becoming aware of this possiblity of life from other planets visiting earth, then surely that makes the disclosure day to arrive much sooner, as both the government and aliens can monitor our responses to things like the 14th October rumours. So… maybe things like this rumour do have some kind of effect towards disclosure by either aliens flying over large cities or government disclosure. And with the current economic turmoil, and the possibility of large scale wars around the corner, which could be started in Iran, Pakistan, Russia invading Ukraine’s Crimea region, or any number of potential incidents, or even fought over oil in Iran in the Arctic with Russia and China. Therefore the coming months would be the best time for any possible watching alien race to let us know that they’re there in order to prevent any potential catastrophe. Dr. Mitchell mentioned something about disclosure soon and said he didn’t know if it was this year or not, was that a hint that it would be soon? I don’t think we could say for sure
Just for you idiots quoting the bible, that’s about as helpful as quoting Donald Duck
The October 14th prediction video is an absolute joke though by the sound of it. Maybe you should also add escape the delusion of this site also, you never really look at sightings objectively
Weird… there’s also a rumor that apples releasing products that day at a keynote. Coincident? I think not!
“There is a massive UFO spanning close to 2,000 miles that is covering the Earth”, I listened to my friend who told me this just 15 minutes ago and grinned but when she finished it with “On October 14th, it will park itself straight over Alabama, it even made National News and it stated Alabama.” As an Alabamian, I admit I started worrying a bit but when I looked it up and actually read the “message” and the story behind it, I think I can safely say that October 14th will be uneventful and will prove nothing but how easy it is to fool us Earthlings!
so of all the great and wonderful places on this planet “they” are going to pick alabama? not to say anything bad about alabama but if i was going a billon trilion light years that state wouldnt be on my top 1000
There are billions of stars in a galaxy and billions of galaxies in the universe. We are made of elements that were formed in stars and supernova. A human body, even that of an ant, is of such a great complexity of design that its functioning boggles the mind. Even the most sophisticated machine is nothing compared to biology.
Yet we are war mongers. We are greedy pigs that profit from the pain and anguish of others. We are shallow, liars and cheaters. Humans are so evil and vile, it is strange to think that something so magnificent like nature would create a race so undeserving of life.
Oh, but you say to yourself, I’m not that bad, I’m a good person… but in reality you are fueling the fire. Every time you pay your taxes you support evil. Every time you fuel your car, buy goods… etc.. you sponsor evil capitalism, corporate pigs and dirty politicians whose only purpose in life is to enslave and exploit the masses.
So I tell you, if the aliens do come, I hope they bring the earth a wonderful gift in the form of an antimatter bomb.
I am ashamed to be a human, unfit and ungrateful to have been given the miracle of life.
@ joe
Shut up you muppet, are you really saying that it would be best to make humanity extinct. Now would that not make the aliens even worse than us? If you hate life so much, it’s about time you concentrated on the good things rather than the bad stuff. Not everyone is so pessimistic as you and it’s a good thing they’re not.
I’m stupid huh. So the 20 children that die worldwide per minute from poverty, the 32 million in the USA that live in poverty, or the 1.4 billion people worldwide that live in poverty, less than 1.25$ a day, and the countless others that die from war and disease, must all be living in some fantasy world.
Denial is always the first step.
What is so important about Ufology? I’ve seen U.F.O.s and does that make me a ufologist? Does that mean all of the sudden my life is enthralled in ufology. Is it to be a ufologist not to have ever seen a ufo in person? My point is this, beyond channelling, ufos, politics, social regulation, there are things that are happening that require our participation and attention not as a subculture or sub-science. The reality of a ufo idling in the sky for three days (January 28 2005 Mexico) might sound impossible and nationally not impressive. However it has already happened and I and everyone here on the internet still don’t get it.
@ joe
I’m not denying any of the nasty things on our planet, but wallowing in your self-pity will just make you depressed, as it appears to have done. Are you going to be unhappy about all the microbial lifeforms that you kill every time you press a key on the keyboard, or even a fly that you swat. Come on, be realistic you can’t blame taxpayers for the worlds problems, it’s just well… pathetic is the word.
There are those who help the poor, give money to charities etc. And you can’t blame people for indirect consequences, for example if you drink coffee you probably would say you are oppressing those who grow coffee by under-paying them, that is indirect and you are not making the decision to consciously harm anyone. I know that’s just one example out of thousands and thousands, and some are worse than others. I’m not denying that these things occur, it’s just that you seem to think the human race should have a collective consciousness, but they don’t and so these things happen, and if you want to blame someone, blame those who are directly responsible, and not ordinary folk. You even said good ordinary folk are tainted by this, but I think the only tainted thing is your obssessed mind. Just have a good life, enjoy yourself, try and be what you think is good, even give money to charity if you wish and don’t worry too much about problems elsewhere. It’s not being in denial, it’s just called being realistic, as we don’t live very long, as there’s nothing you can do about those things, and the option you’re considering of death is too sad and pathetic and shouldn’t even be considered at all.
And last of all seeing a psychiatrist is the first step for you matey by the sounds of your words!
could there be a better time for a global reality check? good day to have a world wide web information “open acess” event….but, what do i know? what if “jesus” drives a spaceship?
Not sure about the 14th, although that would be a good day… my birthday. From what I have been seeing they are already here in mass numbers. Have been seeing their energy since the end of March this year. And they are all around the planet. Didn’t think so at first but after taking a trip to Spain recently I am now convinced that they are.
@ John
Firstly, I am not self wallowing, I speak of truths that plague the world.
Secondly, I am diametrically opposed to your belief that ignorance is bliss, all people are accountable.
And lastly, like Stephen Hawking reticently said, ‘I hope aliens don’t find us’, well before we annihilate ourselves anyways.
You are confusing ignorance with accepting reality, and I don’t think ignorance is bliss.
Definition of ignorance : “The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.”
So at what point what I ignorant or unaware of the things which you speak of. I agree some people may be ignorant of it, but not all.
Stephen Hawking probably doesn’t keep saying it on msg boards or even to his collegues, and it’s usually reserved as well intentioned humour at speeches or lectures. I can’t confirm that he said the exact words mentioned, but I’m fairly sure he’s mentioned various things about human frailties.
There’s always hope and it’s sad that you have given up on humanity completely, and I doubt you would get Mr Hawking to state publicly in a serious manner that he wishes aliens to wipe us off the Earth.
You should realise that these frailties should make you stronger as a person towards making a better future for yourself, and if aliens do make contact then you will be able to show them how evolved we actually can be, and the potential that we all should have.
Or an alternative is that you could ask them to destroy us all, and confirm to them once and for all that humans really are weak and pathetic and don’t deserve our place in the universe.
Do you see my point, by being so morbid about life is so unproductive and unhelpful, and is also selfish and maybe even a little pathetic. And by being completely serious so that you let it disrupt your life might even justify some of the nasty human frailties, and is in fact a human frailty itself. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t feel bad about those things but don’t let it destroy your life, as by the sounds of it you sounds extremely depressed about it all. And in fact that’s why people use humour to mask those thoughts. That’s not the same as ignoring it, it’s what I would call acknowledging it.
Im afraid I agree with JOhn on this one Joe. If you feel so strong go and give your life like Mother Theresa and give with all your heart. She was amazing and if all of us lived her life well …… we would be a wonderful race i agree but we have evolved for good and bad and we have tried to improve but not all for the better. We can not please all at the same time. We are special because we are so unique and that is our charm and interest i guess for our visitors. We all get angey when we see pain and hurt but know in our hearts as one we can’t change it. Natural disasters; you name it happens all the time and when it does who do we blame? John is not having a go at you but I think kind of worried about your state of mind. Never give up hope and want anyone or anything to die. We have been blessed with life whether for one day or 100 …. live it.
@ John and Paula
I already have this huge list of souls that I will have to quest through hell to save, why must so many people make my afterlife hell. I’m gonna have to convince God that your worth saving, then I’m gonna have to look for you all over hell and have to rescue you from the torments of demons. Because of you my soul will be tainted from everything I will witness in hell and I will be depressed and an introvert in heaven, while you rejoice in your new found glory.
Please don’t burden me with your salvation. All you have to do is live for others instead of your selfish selves and you will save me from much trouble.
My approach to this is to let the claims stand the test of time. On October 14, or 15 we shall know the accuracy of this revelation. If you see the craft with your very own eyes or get reliable first hand witness accounts of this visitation then chances are that the hovering space craft is the real deal. If by Oct. 15 there is no such event, then chances are that the whole thing was a hoax, or atleast unintended misinformation. Until then, how about we just go about our lives, hope that a repeat of the 1929 stock market crash evades us, and that we keep an open mind about the possibility of more advanced life visiting our troubled little planet that is running out of plentiful, clean water.
@ joe
Right let me make this clear, I don’t care about this salvation garbage, I’m just pointing out to you how it would be best to live life, and I’m sure most people would agree with me.
You’re an excellent example of someone who was probably indoctrinated with religion at an early age, and so would find it difficult to use any form of critical thinking whatsoever.
Why do you think we’re all so special that you’re going to have a chat with your god after death. Read up on what evolutionary scientists have to say, for example the human eye is anything but perfect, and is the direct opposite of what anyone/anything would design. In fact we’re all just on an evolutionary path where our descendants will be adapted better to our environment as those with the most effective genes pass their genes on to their off-spring. This in itself is fascinating enough without needing to even consider a god.
I would be interested in hearing of what evidence you have to support the existence of god and devils. Actually I don’t think I would because you would bore me with bible speak, and then claim it’s the word of god. Hear-say are just stories and that is what the bible is comprised of. Nobody can prove who the author is. You see you have to prove it’s the word of god, it’s not me who has to disprove it, as lack of any proof on your part is enough for any sensible person to accept what I’m saying as accurate. It’s the same as me claiming a giant purple flying elephant exists on earth, and you saying “well where is it?” I would then say “keep looking it’s there”. Would you just accept my word for it, or rather than you needing to disprove it’s existence, you would agree I would have to prove it’s existence. The god scenario is identical when you look at it from a logical perspective.
It would be nice to think there’s an afterlife of some kind but don’t waste your time assuming there is. Show me some actual evidence of a heaven and a hell existing! And you’re calling me a selfish self, haha that’s quite funny actually. By your interpretation everyone is selfish apart from you god deluders, so it’s pointless to argue with you on this point. And actually from my perspective pointing out various facts which are part of reality is not selfish, in fact it’s providing you with insight into reality, and if it removes you from your fantasy world then it’s a few minutes well spent!
Already most religions have crumbled at their base by the impact of scientific evidence, and those who still believe in things like creationism are vastly delusional. There is no way that the mountains and mountains of collected documented scientific evidence, which can be measured, repeated and undergo scientific scrutiny, and so deals with factual information, can be outdone by a book you call the bible which is just a collection of stories in a book with an no known author.
Rigorous scientific experiments produce hard facts, and so can be taught in science classrooms. Religions produce nothing but beliefs and leaps of faith, and so cannot be represented as factual and so should be kept in religious lessons. If someone went into a Maths lesson at school saying their parents disagreed that 5+5=10 and actually it was equal to 25, because their belief stated that it was. Would you all then teach the new answer or actually (hopefully) all the teachers would laugh and say no you’re wrong. It’s the same with creationism, we all should laugh and say no that’s incorrect. I suppose even silly religous traditions that make absolute no sense to anyone with common sense, such as fasting, which can be harmful for low blood-sugar levels in the daytime, also fit into the same category. But to respect religous beliefs, and to be politically correct we don’t say what really should be said, instead we say we respect that belief, which in actual fact is idiotic at best. Also these religious gathering in India and other places in Asia, where people die in stampedes, is this really necessary, even if you still wish to delude yourselves into worshipping a god, then there’s going to be better ways than that.
And one last point is that one thing all religions agree on is that all the other one’s are incorrect. That’s one thing they are all right about – as this makes them all incorrect!
And, oh please don’t respond with some more religious garble as it’s just silly.
And one further to you joe, I don’t find it surprising that you tried to attack Paula as well for just pointing out simple plain facts. As that’s one tactic of religious people – which is to attack the person with religious texts and in some way even threaten them, when they cannot find the correct argument against someone who uses logic as their own viewpoint.
Threatening someone with hell is no better than calling someone names, and both are just as petty.
But then again the arrogance of people like you never astounds me, and your self-righteous and oooh you’re so special that god loves you only arguments are pathetic. Humans are just the fifth ape, accept it because this fact will never change however much you wish it to, and living in a delusional world could even cause psychological harm. Ignorance is not bliss, and you even said said that yourself earlier. Talk about a complete hypocrite, it’s usually how religious people operate. A denier of scientific knowledge which contradicts their beliefs, yet they use computers, which are a product of the same scientific knowledge. Now members of a certain religion (remains nameless for stupid PC reasons) attacks and hates these principles which were formed mostly by Western countries, yet they use equipment invented by these Western countries to attack them. That total and complete hypocrisy. And then there’s the arrogance that they own all of the planet! Get one thing straight, us humans are only leasing this world, and ownership is for all life here, not just one species. And if or even when humans have gone, the earth will still be here. Not even what you interpret as god designed humanity has the power to destroy the earth.
@ John
If you think this life is all there is, you’ll have one hell of a surprise. I don’t base my beliefs on any single religion, many religions have kernels of truth in them, namely moral teachings. I don’t believe Jesus is son of God, but I do believe in many of the things he did preach about and there are also many things I don’t agree with. Jesus’ message is filled with contradictions from testament to testament, heck the whole bible is filled with contradictions. It is ludicrous in this day and age to view the bible like some fundamentalist Christians do. Yet, science has proven that prayer, like meditation, actually does have a positive impact on your mental and physical health.
It isn’t religion that makes me believe in God, it is actually a simple concept. God isn’t around and doesn’t want us to know of his existence because he wants us to have free will. If God was sitting on a cloud and everyone knew he existed, our free choice would be robbed from us. We would be sure that hell existed and we would all be like robots instead of individuals. God wants us to show him that we have integrity, he wants us to have hurdles and difficult choices to make.
And this makes perfect sense. Imagine in a couple years that we actually do invent artificial intelligence. Then in a computer we create a ‘universe’ like many video games, where this A.I. exists. The A.I. could never prove we exist, yet on the screen we can watch and see what it does. We can give them virtual bodies and see how they interact with each other, what choices they make ect. When they die we can program a heaven or a hell, and basically play God ourselves. Yet all the laws of our Universe need not apply, we can make down up and up down, we can make 1 second our time translate to a thousand years their time…etc…
The point is if its possible for us, it is possible for God. Like the A.I. in the computer, we on earth would have no idea what was on the other side of the screen. I believe that evil will be punished and the righteous will be rewarded. I believe that this life is to test us, so like the video game, we either advance to the next level or not.
@ joe
you said “If you think this life is all there is”
No I don’t think we know everything, but assuming god created everything is not a quick fire answer to everything.
Again you talk about a god, what god??!!
I’m not saying I have all the answers, it’s up to you to prove what you claim, otherwise it’s laughable at best.
Even when all the evidence points to evolution and natural selection you still blindly believe in your rubbish. I doubt nothing would change such a stubborn mind.
Everything you say is closed-minded, I’m glad I don’t close my mind to assuming there’s a god. I’m open to whatever science discovers to be the truth, you on the other hand are not. You will always attribute everything to a false god.
you said “If God was sitting on a cloud and everyone knew he existed, our free choice would be robbed from us. We would be sure that hell existed and we would all be like robots instead of individuals.”
Actually all we would know is that something that looks like god is sitting on a cloud. Your imagination would fill in the rest, and we wouldn’t know what it was. That’s exactly what you have done with your entire fantasy.
Now why would a god give us the means to question everything using critical thinking if he didn’t want us to be like that then! Can’t answer that can you. If he was going to punish everyone he used critical thinking and sent them to hell then surely you’re implying god is a failure, otherwise he would have designed us all to be robots, in order that we all worshipped him.
Actually AI has been around for a while now, although recently it’s been getting more advanced. Simple AI is getting something on a computer screen to follow the mouse cursor, whilst more complex could be a walking dog like we’ve acheived recently. AI is a long way from the film ‘The Matrix’, so your idea is still science fiction. And by attributing reality to something bigger like a god, you’re not answering any real questions that science is helping to answer, as you would need to investigate the god you are claiming that exists and you cannot since it cannot be observed. It’s no good making excuses that it can’t be seen and then making up some reasons, that’s not how the real process of providing evidence goes. And don’t forget you have the same flaw with your belief that all religions have, that is – “Where did your god, or the entities that are god come from?”. Again substituting one unknown with another is about as pointless as banging your head against the wall.
you said “And this makes perfect sense.”
Makes sometimes makes perfect sense doesn’t necessarily make it right, unless you can providing evidence to support your claim, which you cannot. Remember people once thought the earth being flat made perfect sense, and would have died of fright if they were told that the Earth was a oblate spheroid (or close to a sphere to put it more simple).
I have to say that your idea is a little crude, and you’re assuming AI can do the same as us and have a consciousness, and your idea of punishing and rewarding is typical of most religious beliefs and considered childish. Who writes these rules, if nobody can agree what’s the point of this all – as you’re assuming it’s all controlling by lifeforms, and so are they doing it of free will or are they controlled??!! So many questions your beliefs are making, but so few answers to the current questions we have. You are going 1 step forwards and 10 steps backwards matey!
You are also mistaking what AI is. At the moment our AI robots that can walk run on computer programming, and has limits about what it can do. Humans can learn and have emotional responses, if you’ve done any programming then you’d realise that it’s almost impossible at current levels of technology to produce AI with almost unlimited levels of learning abilities (akin to humans) and the emotions that go with it. This self-awareness for AI is just not anywhere past theory yet.
You said “The point is if its possible for us, it is possible for God. Like the A.I. in the computer, we on earth would have no idea what was on the other side of the screen.”
No the point is it’s not possible for us until we’ve done it and we haven’t, and we don’t know whether a god exists or not therefore we stick to the null hypthesis for now until any future evidences are discovered. Note none found yet. And again the AI doesn’t have self-awareness, too much science fiction mixed up with your reality.
you said “I believe that this life is to test us, so like the video game, we either advance to the next level or not.”
Could you be more vague… haha. Sorry I don’t mean to mock you (not too much).
OK it’s fine to speculate, I suppose if I had to speculate I would say that the whole universe could be alive as a whole, and so after death we’re just part of some bigger animal in another reality. But that’s only speculation and should remain as that, and your belief is only speculation too! It’s human nature to hope for more after death and even for more to exist in our perceived reality, but we just don’t really know what there is, and we can only go on what we can observe, test or measure thru’ fossils, rocks, telescopes, microscopes etc. Here’s some comfort for you hopefully – if there’s nothing then surely you wouldn’t notice as you wouldn’t exist to notice anything, and if there’s something then deal with it when you get there. Is that not good enough for you?!
You mention meditation is good, fine but that doesn’t mean you need to believe in a god to meditate. Duh!
@ john
Everything you are saying is moronic. Not a single thing you replied had anything to do with my last message. And don’t lecture me about science, I hold a Bachelor of science in microbiology and a technical degree in medical laboratory science, and I currently work as a microbiologist at a hospital. All I do is apply the scientific method and critical thinking all day, my patients’ lives depend on it.
You are the one who is closed minded. Keep on living in your delusion.
You aren’t even worth more of my effort. Its people like you that make us step backwards instead of forwards. Instead of honest debate, you simply throw insults because your feeble mind only knows hate.
you said “Not a single thing you replied had anything to do with my last message.”
So all the stuff about AI had anything to do with what you were talking about. Hmmm do you actually remember what you said on a previous post.
All I ask of you is to prove your claims, and then I will apologize. Otherwise everything I have said was justified.
I’m sorry you can’t see the humour in sarcasm, but I suppose we all have different levels of what we call humourous.
Can you please explain why I am closed-minded?! I have already said I’m open to anything which can be proven, and the rest is speculation and may or not be interesting to various parties. You didn’t even explain most of your beliefs in great detail so it’s difficult for me not to laugh at them.
Are you saying that unless someone agrees with your beliefs that they’re closed-minded? I think you got it the wrong way round, by you stating your beliefs are true, you are being closed-minded to all other possibilities. At what point did I ever say I wasn’t open to any possibility, as long as it’s defined as speculation until proven by rigorous science?!
you said “All I do is apply the scientific method and critical thinking all day, my patients’ lives depend on it.”
I don’t know anything about your job and whether you use critical thinking there, but you’re not using it on this forum, that is one thing that is apparent to everyone.
“Instead of honest debate, you simply throw insults because your feeble mind only knows hate. ”
The last time I checked I was being completely honest, and yes I would call this a debate. I doubt you’re insulted by a few sarcastic remarks, more likely you would prefer me to just agree with your fantasy… but it’s a shame I can’t.
You say I’ve got hatred towards you. Well you’re wrong and it’s funny how we were talking about imagination filling in the blanks, as you’re doing it again.
I certainly hope for your patients (if that’s even your job) that you apply that critical thinking a little better than on here.
you said “You aren’t even worth more of my effort.”
Typical of someone like you – unable to prove your claims so you take your toys and skeddadle. Off you go, back to your delusion. Come back when you can admit that you can’t prove anything you’ve said and it has no more merit than somebody claiming we’re all part of a giant mash-potato, and that it’s speculation at best. No more and no less than what I speculated on earlier!
You know what… I find it absolutely astounding how someone involved in microbiology could take such leaps of faith, although not unsurprising if you live in the USA as they doctrinate you into religion from such a young age there that it’s almost impossible for people to consider a god not existing. I’ve heard even some school teachers believe in rubbish like you, that’s a scary thought. I wouldn’t send my kids to a school with deluded teachers.
Have you heard of Richard Dawkins. He puts it plain and simply to people, and says it as it is. I’ve heard he wrote an interesting book called “the god delusion”. I haven’t read it, but I’ve seen his documentaries on Darwin, and they’re very good.
Captain Kirk and Mr Spock speak of the federation and specifically the federation of light in at least 3 episodes
*ahem* No. It is the United Federation of Planets, and has NEVER been referred to as the “Federation of Light” over the course of 5 different series and 8 movies. Of course, maybe the person on the website is as confused as that commenter…
What time is this supposed to happen on the 14th October, and what’s the time difference in Alabama from the UK? So I can work out what time to switch on the news. hehe
Lighten up! Let’s wait until Oct 14, Feast of the Tabernacles. Blossom says let’s focus on LOVE!
As Simy says, lighten up. You only have 11 days till the proposed event. Those that believe it and look forward to it and those that reject it and laugh at it, will find final resolution to this topic soon enough.
One last thing, just in case a huge ufo is parked outside your window tuesday morning what would you do?
At the very least you would have a lot of questions and very few to answer them.
Just in case this does happen, you can get some answers from this book.
http://handturnedbowls.biz/data/AscensionEssentials.pdf
Where do we all come from? How did we get here?
We must have come to this website for a purpose, a meaning.
the internet is alive.
Dane Walsh #63, I agree! Billy, have you ever gotten so many comments?
It’s curious to me how religion fits into the subject about UFOs. About 10 comments used the words, God or bible, with some of those going to an exchange between Joe and John. Oddly, the comments containing the words, God, bible, angel or religion, didn’t use the word, spiritual, which used by a separate 3 comments. Apparently, there’s a distinction being made with religion and spiritual.
And about 13 out of 93 comments or 13% of our collective comments (or thinking?) deal with the religious or spiritual, either for or against. Whatever that means.
@ Ann
I don’t think you understand how science works. Science is not against anything which can be proven to exist by rigorous scientific principles. That is the only basis for factual information about the world around us, there is no doubt at all about that. Except for people who live in fantasy land that is. Science does not go about saying that god is impossible, angels don’t exist because that is not what science is about. Lack of evidence automatically means null for those things, until suitable evidence may or may not be produced. It’s as simple as that. And anything beyond that is considered theory, speculation or maybe even fantasy if we are talking about wild beliefs.
Unfortunately, Joe is absolutely correct in all he has stated.
We all as a species need to find and change everything that is negative about our species.
This message from the channeling at the very least provides guidance to that understanding.
The vast majority of humanity is corrupted by every imaginable sin. We all need to realize this and take a deep look inside ourselves. This forum proves how disgusting of a people we can be. Humans should be embarassed to consider themselves “ingelligent” beings.
Extinction of our species can only help Mother Earth, those that have lived their life in light and love will be allowed to evolve, those that do not, will be made to suffer the wrath of mother earth herself.
I for one am ready for my fate, its well overdue
Wonderful music video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4
And John, I’m sorry my temper flared before. You’re absolutely correct with your analysis of things. I guess that I feel so strongly about God because at work I see death daily. I sometimes go to the oncology department with my little prayer book and stand outside patients’ rooms and talk to God. I never get an answer and the patients keep dying, but I always get this warm reassuring feeling inside.
I always see families pour into the rooms in tears. I can’t imagine that God doesn’t exist because how can all that love be meaningless. How can it just fade away into nothing.
At the same time I see so much evil in this world and I ask myself the same questions.
Anyways, no hard feelings.
Ref: Ann,
The reason religion comes into discussions about ufo’s and extraterrestrial life is because according to all our religious works we are alone in the universe and the prime project of the God of that doctrine.
To accept intelligent life outside our own as a fact a religious person would have to totally rethink the religious works wouldn’t they? Many contradictions would rise if you factor in races from other worlds.
Read my book. It explores this point.
http://handturnedbowls.biz/data/AscensionEssentials.pdf
Ref: Rob,
You are already awake and attuned. Please download and read the book I wrote. It will help you.
Download it at:
http://handturnedbowls.biz/data/AscensionEssentials.pdf
There are only 9 days left. What is there to loose? If it doesn’t happen there’s no harm done. Lets just wait and see. If it does happen then all the people that mocked it will the be the ones looking like fools aren’t they? Lets just wait.
If you haven’t taken into account The Disclosure Project’s evidence, then I guess you would not know about integrated/interacting consciousness technologies discovered within these ETVs (or) UFOs. Even we The People of Earth are and have been working on similar technologies for some time now. Think of this: Currently we are investigating methods of controlling computer games simply with thought patterns, while at the same time, soldiers that are flying unmanned missions in Iraq are able to do so at the comfort of their local base in America. Put the two together and you have thought controlled flight. So, what is so outlandish about the idea of reversing that ability, and channeling (or) receiving information from possible super-advanced extraterrestrial technology?
I don’t feel it is necessary to bicker over who is right and who is wrong, and who is the most crazy. The idea of this message is to lift the consciousness level of the earth, spread the word of peace and understanding, and to openly invite these other civilizations to come to us, since we are so far behind (at least in the publicly known sciences) in our own space exploration abilities.
I ask, why is this so wrong?
We all know that we manifest our own reality, so, why not manifest something healthy, and… …cool!
Peace be to all, and to all that help with spreading the word of acceptance for this visitation, a BIG T H A N K Y O U !
I don’t care if I will be considered a sucker for looking up at the sky on the 14th. At least I’ll get some fresh air..
If this happens on the 14th no-one will care what anyone said on here, we will all be too fascinated watching the sky or news channels
I want to alert people to this deception. If and when “aliens” arrive they will not be intergalactic but interdimensional.
They will be demons masquerading as aliens in order to take God, the creator out of the equation. They will say that they are our creators and our saviors. That way, they also negate the need for Jesus, the real Savior, of men’s souls.
Do some research and you will see that even secualr ufologists say that the channeled “aliens” are much like the demons of the Bible. Also, there have been actual abductions which have been stopped immediately when the abductee called on the name of Jesus.
This is a spirtual battle and the Bible tells of a great delusion near the time of the end.
This delusion will even fool some Christians, who are not prepared.
I implore that you will research and see that we are expeirencing the signs of the end as prophecied by Jesus and in the Bible.
May the peace and eternal savlation of Christ Jesus be yours!
Gotta agree with everyone saying to wait and see, and THEN say something. They can’t be sure it will happen, and neither can everyone else. Unless you’ve been to the future.
And I’m ignoring the devil nonsense up here.
Haha, Gina, please tell me you don’t actually think that? Well at least it’s not as bad as the Muslim reaction will possibly be and call a jihad.
You are calling something which may or not happen a delusion, yet your fundamental belief agrees it will happen. Please make up your mind, you can’t have it both ways.
Maybe the bible, which is probably a collection of stories written by humans, and so they wrote of creatures they witnessed, maybe in the same way that abductees have done nowadays. And maybe jesus was just another type of alien who cares more for humans than the greys. And don’t forget if we’re assuming this then the greys are already around, and thus the one’s arriving soon may be a different type (hopefully the nicer ones). But this is all interesting speculation and nothing more than that. I suppose it’s more likely that the ones arriving are even more nastier, going on how the only intelligent species we know of behaves some of the time. Nevertheless humans will be at the mercy of any species that has mastered space travel. Another reason for their arrival could be that humans have reached their peak plumpness and so they’re here for the harvest. All those overweight better start dieting, otherwise they’ll be the first one’s to be plucked! Sorry couldn’t resist a joke, it’s just what some people say on here really cracks me up.
And Gina if someone shouted ‘jesus’ to me I’d go the other way too, and so would most sensible intelligent lifeforms.
No doubt when this day comes and nothing happens, She will use her get out of jail free card that she has slipped in to all of her tube video’s. “if people dont believe in it enough it may not happen”. LOL Total rubbish…….GRRrrrrrrrrrr
And its no Alien..
But 2012 events will happen
So it is on a forum where people discuss and believe for the most part, we are being visited by others I have read so many negative comments about October 14th. What is it that is so hard for you to even lend the possibility of truth? Blossom and others have proposed that a ship will grace our skies. Obviously that cannot be the problem since this is a ufo blog. Is it that the ship is made of something that would give it the appearance of being made of light? That’s silly cause what may appear to be made of “light” could be made of anything really. Perhaps it is that the message has been delivered by way of telepathy, cause essentially that is what “channeling” really is. And so if that this minor extra-sensory ability is what is bothering you all think about how silly it is to dismiss the possibility of another race being able to communicate without words, and therefore dismiss anyone who claims to have a communication without words. Words are the least accurate form of communication we have so why would an intelligent race use words. Much better to work through ones thoughts and feelings, and then have them “channel” and translate those thoughts and feelings into his or her own words. Stop your persecution of things that do not fit within your paradigm, and know that yours and mine is one that is limited in scope at the moment. Don’t blindly follow everything you hear, but rather get in touch with your intuition.
No amount of people believing or not believing will change any of what is to happen at this point. Come October 14th I suggest you look up at the skies. stay tuned in, and you may want to pull those investments and retirement plans out of your banks before they completely disappear (that’s more just general advice, but the mid October event won’t help it).
It will happen
It will happen
It will happen
for Joe #102
First time on web-site. searching for reason my son Fred born Oct. 14, 1960[died 3\16/2000
in Santa Fe, NM].Oct. 14, 1966 his grand-dad passed away at 65, also in Santa Fe. His grand-mom at 52, Oct. 14, 1969 passed away in San Diego, CA. It’s nearly that time again, and thru all these comments, I have found a great deal of comfort from your last one! Please continue to pray for Cancer victims! UFO’s or not, we are all here for a purpose.
All I have to say is, if you haven’t heard about “William Cooper” you should look up his legacy video. All i have to say is, be careful and aware/prepared if maybe they don’t come in Peace.I’m also not saying October 14th won’t happen maybe it will, but if it doesn’t “TI WILL” eventually happen.. http://www.surfthechannel.com/info/documentaries/Legacy_Of_William_Cooper/35050/Legacy+Of+William+Cooper.html?aid=18907
Witchhouse, you’re denying one event in October as rubbish, yet you accept another event in 2012 which is probably also rubbish, as fact. Why?!
Paulco, I’m aware there’s been scientific research done into this area of psychic abilities, and nothing was found. Now it doesn’t mean it’s impossible, but why doesn’t she demonstrate her abilities if she has them. Some people claim she has, but I can’t find any suitable sources which prove those abilities. There’s plenty of claims but no evidence to back up her abilities. I don’t understand why she doesn’t work with science on this if she has psychic abilities. She would get paid more than writing books about predictions, as she would get a share of the proceeds of whatever technology can be produced by research into channeling. Because she doesn’t do this, she is bound to lose credibility. It would be cool if she was right, but it’s the correct method to be sceptical. For a start on her Youtube video that I have watched, around 8 mins long, she repeats herself unconvincingly. She talks about a higher vibration of love, yet fails to explain in any detail what she is talking about. She does sound like she believes in what she’s saying, but that doesn’t mean it’s true. A lie detector test wouldn’t prove anything apart from what we suspect, and that’s that she thinks it will happen. But it would be interesting to see the results of one.
Paulco said “No amount of people believing or not believing will change any of what is to happen at this point.”
True, but I imagine that the general interest in UFOs will have gone up, and so any potential disclosure dates may occur sooner. So I suppose either way on October 14th, if aliens are around somewhere, she may have made a beneficial impact on us all.
Will it happen? I have absolutely no idea! LOL
Download google earth. Look above canada in the arctic ocean with the weather on and notice the clouds are missing with a crisp edge. And the area missing is 2000 miles wide.
If the ship does not show up on October 14, people who channel (telepathic communication) will be discredited. Why would a species channel information that discredits human channelers? What are they up to at this time in our history that they need to discredit all channelers? If no ship shows up it seems to me who ever is behind the channeled messages are not our friend. You may suspect the greys and/or reptilians to be behind this in my opinion.
If the ship does show up, thank the Federation of Light, because our government has a lot of explaining to do.
The truth is out there. Never stop looking for it.
Guess what else is happening on October 14, 2008. Election day in Canada! Does this mean that the elections will be suspended due to the UFO sighting? We will see. Or is this Project Blue Beam coming into effect?
Science is now pretty much stuck at the point of begining to study consciousness itself. The prediction is that in the future science will begin to cross the threshold of Spirituality and the two will both be present to integrate. This step will either destroy all seperated Religions or unite them into a more solid reality by changing them. A reality where psychics can be tested, and the techniques proven scientifically. Until this time where all our local psi people will voluntarially step up to show us they can first accuratly communicate with one another, it is hard for any of us to believe they are communicating with Aliens “accurately.” To date psi has been about 50 percent accurate on predictions by the very best like Gene Dixon. I do not know of any psi people who can accurately send messages across our planet without some extensive coloring to the message. We have a lot of work ahead to get there. The first step is the general public becomming aware that psi is very real, and yet most who practice it are still quite emersed within their own “emotions” and inner desires and personal traumas.
I see Blossoms coragous stepping forwards as a plus, this movement is causing many people to question simply “Are Aliens Real?” and “Can we survive this present time peroid to become an advanced civilization also?”
A good look at our selves, where we are at as humankind, and where we could go if inspired to stop killing one another. This seems to be the main “message” of the people contacting these Light Beings. I see this contact as a positive “social event.”
As frequency is raised, energy is increased. If we look into a system with very high frequency and energy what we generally see is light. Very intense light. Who is to say these people, with opened senses and opened pineal glands, to this higher light are not seeing something very real. They then must inturpret what they see with all the word they know, in their vocabulary. The only vocabulary that fits seems to match up with sci fi TV shows, that have dealt with these concepts.
What was being referred to as Angels in past times, or “beings of Light” is now being percieved as Alien Entities.
The third eye center is a sphere of liquid covered with a grid of calcite crystals. It is the organ of torsion fields and Aether vibration in platonic form called the pineal gland. If you have ever messed with quartz crystals or torsion field generators you may come to know it is a very real sense. While I am not endorsing any predictions, I can attest to the reality of torsion fields, pineal gland sensations, and higher vibrations of light. I have experienced them all using scientific methods.
http://magnetism.fateback.com/index.htm
Whats more anyone can cut a specific length rod and start to feel these kind of vibrations. See the section on the Tempic field Matrix.
The person becomes part of the experiment with torsion fields, and not every one has identical reactions. Unresolved emotions are the first thing to surface with this energy, and thus we have a thousand channelers claiming a thousand inner perceptions are the reality of everyone.
There is a step however where the emotions become resolved and the senses can reach out to communicate with others accurately. This must be tested before it can be relied upon to offer help to others. One still dealing in the emotional realm are not likely to offer being tested, at least none have accepted my offers to work with them to verify their skills.
Sincerely,
David Lowrance
I’m more curious about what will be Blossom’s story when nothing happens on Oct 14th…
Will says “If no ship shows up it seems to me who ever is behind the channeled messages are not our friend. You may suspect the greys and/or reptilians to be behind this in my opinion.”
Well, you’re welcome to your opinion. Mine would be that Blossom (and possibly channeling in general) is bogus. But I’d be happy to be PROVEN wrong
re: 115 (John)
On the matter of telepathy I agree that most publicized case studies of mental telepathy have come up short. But what I ma suggesting here is that it is not Blossom who has special abilities (although she may think so), but rather it is the other beings who have the abilities. They are able to establish those telepathic links with whomever they choose.
I know, it all sounds convenient right? Temporary abilities that cannot be tested… I understand, nevertheless that’s my point of view and I have good reason for it that I will not go into at this point.
To all readers:
It’s difficult having a discussion centered around a prediction before it happens isn’t it? The “wait and see” approach is a fairly balanced one I suppose, but I encourage you to have the courage to discuss this with others around you. I feel it’s a discussion worth having if there ever was. Even I have reservations about bringing up the topic with those I know but that should not be. We should not feel embarrassed discussing anything of a outer-worldly nature. In fact discussing the 5-6 hours of television programming that we watch every evening is what should make us blush if anything. After all the stories, characters, and events on TV would be no more imaginary than the 14th Event -if that ends up being the case.
But you know where I stand, even if I am all but alone.
Having seen one (well, two varieties) at the age of seven, I have known for most of my life that they hang out here (only God knows why). In 1979, I saw one our military had reproduced (it defied all conventional aircraft, was painted a flat white, and had absolutely NO markings on it except the star and bars (only one, painted off-center on the bottom of the craft). It’s speed and maneuverability were straight out of the movie I.D. where Will Smith said, “I have GOT to get me one of these!”
They’re here, we all know it (at least on this site) and while I’ve never put much stock in all the channelling/occult/hocus pocus stuff, who’s to say our extraterrestrial friends are not just sitting up there, awaiting an invitation? Heck; October 14 is as good a day as any for me. I wouldn’t mind coming out of the closet to tell my story without fear of ruining my children’s lives forever.
Let’s all get some positive vibes going here! Yes, the earth sucks. We NEED you (or SOMEBODY who can fix what we’ve done before it’s too late and we’ve raped and pillaged every natural resource on the planet). Show yourselves! Land in my yard! I’ve got a decent camera now, and I knowhow to use it!!!
One more item for those that like investigation. My original introduction to all things “different”, was a theory called Novelty Theory postulated by Terrence McKenna and mapped out using software entitled Timewave Zero. I get into the matrix of it all because quantum mathematics isn’t really my strong suit, but one thing you should note is that the Timewave Zero and the revised Timewave One (after the death of Terence) results that map major earth events before it stops at December 21st 2012. This chart did predict a major event on 9/11 and has an upcoming prediction for guess when?
Peace
Reasons why UFOs aren’t showing up on Oct.14th
A 2000 mile ship in the sky would scare the crap out of everyone, causing accidents and mass hysteria. The damage caused by looting and riots would outweigh any benefit of their coming. We’ve all seen Independence Day right.
Wouldn’t it be smarter to first send a signal to earth. If they are so advanced, wouldn’t it be easy for them to simply pirate a satellite and send us a broadcast. I find it ridiculous that they would choose some obscure person in Australia and channel a message of the greatest story in the history of mankind. Hell they could simply call her at home right, why channel??
Have you read this woman’s messages? They use no scientific terms whatsoever, no math, science etc… even their English is quite poor. My daughter could write better mumbo-jumbo.
If you ask me I think Bill Cooper had it right when he said that UFOs are probably human technology. It makes sense that they would be shroud in secrecy. Look at all we’ve achieved scientifically in one century, it seems very probable to me that UFOs are man made.
As happy as i would be to make contact with this Alien life, would we even know if it is realy who they say they are. Look up Project Bluebeam, Haarp Project and then alittle Phillidephia Experiment and then watch Blossum Godchild’s Message. I would hate to think that Humans are behind the message Blossum and other have recieved. If something does come on Oct 14th. I would be more thinking on the lines of them trying to rush forth a new world order by disolving different religions around the world with the visit of our celestrial brothers bla bla.
I wouldn’t believe anything i see not even hear in my head. Thats right in my head!.
I do belive that Blossum has receieved messages that they are coming.
I don’t believe that the messages are from whom she thinks they are.
Trust No One not even your ears and eyes – Just enjoy the ride
The reason why they’re called the Federation of Light is because they for everything that is good, you need to open your mind or we will continue to suffer this illusion.We are trapped that is why we have money, so when ever we have happiness it is only temporary due to the overwhelming pressure of a material life. One more thing and remember this, THE LOVE YOU WITHHOLD IS THE PAIN YOU CARRY
Just to say on this one – be aware that there is also a place in South Africa called Alabama.
Also, familiarize yourself with PROJECT BLUEBEAM.
If these guys show, judge them by their actions. Real beings want peace, Govt con trick would be a ‘world unifying’ “attack”.
Remember the Orson Welles radio hoax.
Dis `n klomp kak! Fok julle!
If you listened you would know that Alabama is the name of the ship not the place.
Go to http://www.mygenie.tv to learn more and release any fears surrounding this amazing time that we have all chosen to be here for. xx
As I stand above your body to much in hope for fear. Waiting for you. watching you. I send the first blow.
Angels Don”t Play This HAARP
Could it be this “channeling” is just a result of the Mayan prediction allegedly made several thousand years ago of such an event on this date?
Or could it be that the Haarp science is going to create this ilusion in people’s minds as to an alien ship appearing as a Holographic image. for the ultimate Zeitgeist control. lol
Saving the world
In the 1960’s, physicists and other scientists developed the boldest technology to have ever been conceived. Project Orion, a starship, with a mass of up to 8 million tons, could potentially travel at 10% light speed. The concept was to launch from the surface of the earth, by exploding nuclear bombs in rapid succession behind a massive metal plate. The ship would be built like the Brooklyn Bridge, protecting the crew from radiation and could contain its own biosphere, like an interstellar ark.
So how could this save the earth? Well apart from using it as a defense system against asteroids and space travel, Project Orion could also be used to send solar power satellites into space.
Solar power satellites collect electromagnetic radiation from the sun and beam microwaves to large diameter, miles, antennaes. By my calculations, which is just an estimate, just 1 launch using Project Orion could generate in 100 seconds, all the earths current energy needs for a year.
Such a great amount clean cheap energy would revolutionize the earth. Imagine desalinating the oceans into drinking water, creating hydrogen fuel for vehicles and everyone having access to cheap electricity. The whole of the earth would become green and lush, food would overflow like a horn of plenty and everyone would be able to live respectable lives in any country. Hot places could have AC on the streets and cold places could have heaters. Deserts would become habitable, energy could be wasted to any degree, a portion of sidewalks could be mobile for the elderly, economies would be stable…. I think you get the point.
So are all these benefits worth some human casualties. We’ve already exploded hundreds of nukes, representing many Project Orion launches, in tests and we’re still around, so I doubt the risk is that serious.
Instead of waiting for messiah UFOs to save the earth, we could easily do it ourselves, but instead we are on a path of destruction, how ironic.
Problem is Joe, even if some of that stuff is feasibly possible by our current level of technology and known physics, there’s the engineering aspects of it which take time, and more importantly funding. Also unforeseen circumstances for an extremely new untested rocket system are common, as we saw with the new Nasa Ares rocket during testing it crashed. There’s always someone that says we should spend more on space travel, and others who say we should spend more at home, in hospitals, schools etc. If we have secret technology for space travel whether it’s alien in origin or not is another matter altogether.
I don’t think we’re waiting for UFOs to save the earth, although they may be needed at some point where we seem to be going. All of those things you’ve suggested including the Orion project probably encountered flaws in the design process. For such bold projects, and for the level of success of any new revolutionary new technology requires the level of cooperation that humans probably aren’t capable of. Greed at the moment will alway prevent this from happening. Maybe we need to live like in a star trek universe where everyone works for the benefit of advancements, although humans did build the pyramids thousands of years ago which was a spectacular acheivement… or did they?
I’m sure the people at Nasa and other space agencies are doing their best with what funding and equipment that have available, and that they’re not waiting for god or alien intervention. It’s just a shame that not everyone has the same motivation in life as those kind of people. If they did, I’m sure humans could achieve almost anything.
And don’t forget concept designs whilst not breaking known laws of Physics are not necessarily possible to build, as physicists are not engineers. My best guess probably was the engineers went back to the physicists with the orion project, and said get real mate! That’s only a guess, I could be wrong about that.
They were actually done with theoretical and experimental tests. The ship was supposed to be built by navy submarine engineers, but unfortunately the test ban treaty made it illegal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Lxx2VAYi8
sounds like viral marketing for “The Day The Earth Stood Still…
I have a question for all of you quoting the bible with STRONG religious beliefs…What are you doing chatting on a UFO site? If you are such strong Christians you shouldn’t even be discussing UFOS because it goes against Christian teachings. So if you believe in God’s word then you can’t believe in UFO’s and aliens. So take your pick, God is everything or Aliens exist, which one do you subscribe to?
yeah, this may well be a good example of the kind of stuff that gives UFOlogy a bad name but…
I love the word ‘but’ because… well, certainty about anything is really quite fleeting.
So, probably a bad prediction but, what if it happened?
‘If’ is another word that plays just as well as ‘but’.
Someone once said that ‘if’ God exists, He is actually the greatest scientist in the universe.
At the base of everything is energy and matter… which may be interchangable and if it can be manipulated, it means that nothing is impossible.
One more time, the prediction is probably hokey ‘but’ ‘if’ it were to happen…
Nothing is impossible.
The 3 day appearance is but for one purpose; to open minds and raise consciousness on a mass level.
Just like this forum, the act of considering the possibility raises your consciousness and expands your awareness. Mankind has to be open to possibilities they once considered impossible, to bring the manifestation of potentials for new realities into existence.
The announcement by Blossom, if anything, has certainly raised awareness of this topic and placed the possibility of off-planet life to a much higher level, among a large growing body of people that until then did not have this in their consciousness, or waking mind.
Those who said it are right. That suddenly showing up with no warning would create only a negative impact. An announcement was needed to resonate with those that would welcome it. Those that look forward to it, will be in a position to help the many in denial, mostly from 6,000 years of religious dogma created for the sole purpose of control and manipulation of the masses.
Organized religion is and has always been, an industry created by a few men, for the control of all men.
This appearance ushers in the beginning of the truth of our true origins, and the deception that has ruled our existence. It must begin with a jolt that is undeniable, and even then, a majority will refuse to accept truth as they always have.
God honors our free will and always has. We create our reality based on our beliefs, and the energy our thoughts project.
It boils down to your choice, and will forever remain this way. You choose the reality you percieve. Acceptance of what your abilities input to your awareness is how you begin to know truth. Belief that any potential is possible allows more of this truth to be known.
Be open to any potential your imagination imparts to you today and every day. Find time as often as you can to remove the distractions of sound, sight and touch, and search your thoughts. This is where God truly resides.
Stop the bull ! I guarantee you, nothing will happen on the 14th of October 2008. You bunch of madhatters. 2000 mile long ship. What a crock !
Ufos does really exist. I took a video. when i went outside, and guy said look in the sky is this bird? and i looked up there were black dot in sky. HARD to see though. it couldn’t be bird because its too far. i kept watching it. it moves swiftly back and forth. we was wondering what it was.. then it vanished. we walked around the house and we kept our eye on sky. and saw it again. it was moving around like “O” slowly. You guys can keep your eye on sky when its BLUE and CLEAR. you can see it easily.
@ Mike
you said “Someone once said that ‘if’ God exists, He is actually the greatest scientist in the universe. ”
One problem, creating the earth in 7 days is not science, it’s an imaginary fairy-tale dreamt up by deluded people. However much you lot try to come up with something clever to say, it’s actually complete nonsense. We all see this garbage outside churches as poor attempts to try and goad people inside. One comment I once heard that you’re not too good to come into church, and you’re not too bad to either. My reply was “I’m somewhere in the middle of good and bad, so I don’t need to come in then by your logic, and I wouldn’t want to either!” All it takes is a bit of effort and brain-power to come up with something better, but it just seems lacking in churches, I wonder why?! Is your god so pathetic that you need to operate like that. Go home religious extremist, back to your dreaming.
Come off it, UFO’s and Aliens do not exist. All the video evidence is always the shakey and moving camera, the grainy blurred video that is hard to see. I don’t see any reason why aliens need to hide from humanity if they exist. It’s that mysterious, mystical thinking behind it of how I can deceive anyone to keep interest in the person who is making the statement. Attention seekers in the core of their being. As long people pay attention to them they get a ego-trip out of it. Mankind is not even capable of ruling a world as it is, look around. Everything is a mess where they put their hand upon and rip it apart at the cost of everyone else’s ignorance and in ability to sort out their own problems. I have never seen any aliens, nor ufo’s then besides the Hollywood one’s as a movie. After all, if you removed 90 percent of your brain, you’d basically be left with the thinking power of a sheep, whatever that is. What a crock. Speculation, erratic claims, as if they have tried on a sheep’s brain. Or eyes of a fly. Guessing and more guessing. Wasting time and money with things no-one can prove.The man who follows the crowd will usually get no further than the crowd. The man or woman who walks alone is likely to find himself in places no one has ever been.For a person to be able to confidently say, “There is no God,” he’d have to know EVERYTHING that existed EVERYWHERE and no human being fits that bill, nor have they been sighted and photographed. And a Atheist is a person who looks through a telescope to EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING and tries to explain what he cannot see ? Sheesh come off it will ya, the world is in dire straights, no-one has an answer to it’s problems, people talk and walk like chickens without head, are more confused then ever before what is going on and try to find a solution to something that is now beyond their capabilities. Mankind’s ruling is coming to an end. And Yes, God is going to take all this in control simply we are incapable and are full of pride and self-righteousness of self. You want more evidence. Start looking around you and open your eyes and stop wasting time. Surrender of your incapacity to do the right thing without understanding the reality that is surrounding you. Of-course this might sound negative and fatalism. But it cannot be denied. If you do then think again ! Everyone has become out of their league of giving a comforting message to others then FACING the reality as it is.
Directed to KJ
How about you take your immature comments elsewhere. And stop acting like you “Know” whats going on. So maybe you don’t believe in UFOs ok well good for you. Does not mean start taking shots at people who believe. Without something in this world to believe in “We” as people serve no purpose. No matter what it is we believe in some people have been alerted into seeing unexplainable things. I myself have seen 2 UFO’s and you sitting here trying to preach that they don’t exist is something I’d expect to hear from a “Scientist” or someone who hasn’t seen one. So take what you’ve been taught elsewhere.
To Royality1
Immature right, now how about proving to what you have seen, means for me just as much as the scare tactics and lies that every global government uses at this moment when they run out of options and possibilities that they are a big fat bunch of failures in ruling their subjects and citizens in a peaceful way. That are the facts you can “SEE”.
For your information to mature in e.g. “Year 2000 bug”, “9/11 bankruptcy cover ups”, Twin towers collapsing in 1 hour while the president is reading a stories about a petgoat to children” Lending idiots more than they can pay back for, Going in Iraq and Afghanistan and spending trillions of dollars from the taxpayer with bombs that cost a million dollar each. “Credit crunch”, “Oil Crisis” “Wasting money”, “clicking buttons on computers to alter the course of this world and pretend”, all “words” that do the stupid mankind cringe with fear. Fear and more fear. This is not democratic but dictatorship on a large scale and then someone comes in and tells me their fictitious UFO’s and Aliens. You are full of crock and immature that you believe such nonsense. Nothing has been taught like that, but simply looking around and see how stupid mankind has become in believing fairytales, like Shrek I, II and III, Independence day, etc. etc.
Very immature is it not ? Why don’t you tell every king, president, congressman, leader of this world of their incapacity and immaturity to prevent all what is happening right now. And how immature of you not been able to give a solution in the first place then harping that you saw a UFO. And that is going to help us out is it not ? How immature. Get real man !
@ KJ
you said “UFO’s and Aliens do not exist.”
Well anything unidentified in the sky is a ufo, and if anyone sees something which they cannot identify, it’s a ufo. Doesn’t mean aliens though. You said aliens don’t exist. Well most astronomers would disagree with that, it’s only about them visiting that they would disagree with until real evidence can be found. I would tend to agree with that, but I’ve seen unexplainable lights/object/whatever in the sky, but I’m not preaching it’s aliens. Most people don’t, they only claim they don’t know what it was, and idiots like you trying to change the meaning of their words does not change that fact. You are the only one talking about conspiracy theories and government cover ups, nobody has even mentioned that at all.
You are right to laugh at tinfoil hat people who believe almost anything when it comes to ufos, but you are highly ignorant to the fact that most people are not like that at all.
And even after seeing what can be described as a personal experience involving an unexplainable sighting, albeit without having any real physical evidence besides a photo, I am sceptical of what it was, and what other people claim to have sighted. It is bad logic to just equate lights in the sky to visiting aliens, but it is also bad logic to ignore an event and pretend it didn’t happen.
This is absolutely the same by all accounts with what pilots, police officers and politicians have been saying, and of course I’m sceptical of all ufo reports. Now tell me who is being immature? Is it you who pathetically thinks he has all the answers? Or those who are just reporting an observation? The answer should be clear even to you now.
I think it’s fairly obvious that you don’t even understand anything about this subject, and I would place you in the loony category as those who claim lights in the sky definitely equate to aliens. I’ve not even got as far as abductions because I don’t need to even mention that. You can debunk every abduction, and there’s still the thousands of credible other sightings to refer you to.
Neither of these sightings have given us any proof of aliens. There’s lots of circumstantial evidence and anecdotal evidence, and argubly there’s evidence that at least some phenomenon unexplainable by current science is going on, and some university professors have put their name to that, but I’d prefer to just say we don’t know yet.
If you think that sounds crazy, a Harvard professor investigated abductions, and came to the conclusion that aliens were involved. And several astronauts including one that went to the moon has also claimed various alien encounters including Roswell.
So before you start accusing people on here, and calling people names, do a bit of reading on this, and come back with a better argument. But if the argument was reasonable like we need physical evidence that can be examined using scientific scrutiny, then I would agree in the entirety with you.
Besides not realising that those who have had sightings still remain sceptical, people like you who ignore everything about this usually apart from stories which are obviously crack-pot, and then assume they all are. You then equate speculation the same as someone calling it a fact, probably both in media and msg boards. When in actual fact if someone says they saw something which looked like they thought an alien ship or alien ships on a film looked like, they don’t necessarily mean they think they saw an alien ship. It’s just what their brain is telling them what the object they saw, looked like from what they’ve seen previously and stored in memory.
There are also many other possible explanations for ufo sightings; psychological reasons, alcohol, drugs, mistaken identity, brain malfunction causing misrepresentation of an event, confusion, stress, strange cloud formations, lamp posts, planes, birds, etc. I don’t doubt that these are what most sightings are, but it doesn’t change the fact that around 20% are unknown. And these can be anything, you don’t know what they are, I don’t, nobody does at the moment. The point is for you to slate someone for speculating on a new phenomenon, and even just speculating for fun about aliens, is beyond immaturity, it’s absurd.
@ KJ
Haha just realised you’re a religious crack-pot. I didn’t read all of your comment before replying last time as your first line warranted a whole page reply.
Anyway you defeated your own argument about aliens. You said no-one can claim god doesn’t exist, as they can’t know everything. But before that you state aliens cannot exist. You use different logic for both, and they contradict each other. If you cannot see this I will explain this further for you.
I would hazard a guess that you assume god exists and so aliens cannot exist. That is false logic, as you would need to prove either of them first with credible evidence, before you can state either of them exist.
You also attack science, which is sad really. You misunderstand science, as it’s not the job of science to disprove something which there’s no proof of existence in the first place, i.e. god. Science deals with facts and not beliefs. You try to equate athiesm with science… athiesm is something religions call people who don’t follow your narrow minded views. I’m sure most scientists who don’t believe in god, (because some may do) will have an open mind to whatever the truth is, as that’s what science is all about. They will say that christianity contradicts scientific fact because it does. For example with the age of earth and evolution etc. Scientists won’t claim there’s no god because like you said they cannot know everything. And scientists don’t go about proving what doesn’t exist, instead they prove what they can, and accept the rest as unknown. Of course they can speculate and have an opinion, but you can’t say god doesn’t exist as a fact just like you can’t say god does exist as a fact. So grow up, it looks like you need the advice, and not being the one giving it out.
you said “You want more evidence. Start looking around you and open your eyes and stop wasting time”
Yes I would like more evidence of everything you’re claiming, if you actually understand what real evidence is. And the existence of the earth and the whole universe is just evidence of it’s existence and not of it’s creation. We have plenty of collected scientific evidence about how the earth, sun and solar system was formed, and we can go as far back as understanding how the universe began almost to the beginning around 14 billion years ago. And new experiments like the LHC will help us answer questions that go further back than that. Just because you don’t bother to read about it, it doesn’t mean we should reject all this knowledge just for muppets like you.
This one is funny what you said “FACING the reality as it is”
Like you would know reality when it hit you in the face. I bet if aliens landed you would denounce them as the devil and scare them all away. You would run away from whatever realities exist apart from your own closed-minded god reality.
To KJ
you said the following “After all, if you removed 90 percent of your brain, you’d basically be left with the thinking power of a sheep, whatever that is”
I think that outcome could be you by your insane ramblings.
To John,
It’s immature to see as it is ? What have all those stories added to our practical society, world, universe and have been able to sort the problems we are facing ? None, nothing, nada. All I see is footage, writings, video’s and pictures. There is no UFO or Alien that is going to sort our problems and I have read. I don’t see any healing manual, debt cancellation program, change in infrastructure where UFO or Aliens have been involved in. All I see is imaginations and the lot you describe in the last paragraph. Nobody was claiming here that I know all the answers but I am not an advocate of the benefit of the doubt. Ohhhh something is out there. The people I have observed and writers have all an agenda to produce these things to be in the limelight of others who are less capable to understand, not even to mention making money of things that are hazy, vague and impossible. Not my only opinion and I don’t care if they are professor or plebeians. As far I can see and experience all the information is directed to put people on a path that leads to absolutely nowhere. Like sending probes to Mars, weeks months there is nothing than red dust ? Where are the trees, the swimming pools, the banquet bakeries, to car garages on Mars ? Where ? Where have we got until now ? Does this sort out sexual diseases like aids, HIV, how to build bridges, how to plant a tree, how to grow a mould on the wall and scrape it off and present it to aliens who will give us the cure ? This is berserker. Really stupid. But escapism is what mankind always does, instead of being responsible for their own failures and misfortunes. Perhaps if we can everyone let believe “something” is out there we don’t have to look silly. We can always count on some powers that we cannot define of who it is and are. Again this is attention seeking and downright pathetic. I just can’t find another word for it. Why can’t be just stand with both feet on this planet and sort our horrible problems in our own yard. No, we have to go and search everywhere and investigate anything. And where again has it brought us ? You again call this immature ? Immaturity is when you don’t sort out your own problems and ostracizing it instead of hanging it on something that is not “out ” there. That I find it the most immature thing I have even encountered. Just stop it ok ? Stop telling me I am immature, my house is in order and all is well as well my life. I am not looking for another to clear up the crap that others have created. This is simple and down to earth. Get of that plane, it is getting you nowhere. Just try it and you will see that it is simple and not so complicated at all. Reality is what counts and I ain’t seeing it in UFO’s and Aliens or the Agents Provaceurs in it. Now who is the Daddy now ?
To Paul,
Being condescending is mature ? And you are twisting my words. You extract things how you can corner me by let me look stupid ? To what standards ? Yours ? Since when are your “standards” the standard where we can the whole world hang upon ? Is it Absolute Truth ? “Absolute truth” is defined as inflexible reality: fixed, invariable, unalterable facts. For example, it is a fixed, invariable, unalterable fact that there are absolutely no square circles and there are absolutely no round squares. Same counts for UFO’s and Aliens.
You can’t logically argue against the existence of absolute truth. To argue against something is to establish that a truth exists. You cannot argue against absolute truth unless an absolute truth is the basis of your argument. Consider a few of the classic arguments and declarations made by those who seek to argue against the existence of absolute truth…
With that the train of your thoughts has already been derailed and still has not arrived on any station of Ufology. If there were any train-stations of that kind that is
“Who knows what the truth is, right?” In the same sentence the speaker declares that no one knows what the truth is, then he turns around and asks those who are listening to affirm the truth of his statement. And so the conversation goes round and round in circles and again, where have we arrived ? Exactly nowhere.
I will stand with this: Absolute Truth is: God inside His Word and in Him alone is the Alpha and Omega (Beginning and the End), it does not stop by Chronos (time), But is a winding down of a watch that never will be wound up again ever. But by reality that none of you all can accept in the confusion that most of you are into.
@ KJ
I never said that any sightings could do anything you’ve suggested. If you recall I said something sighted by me is unidentified. That’s it, I don’t spend any time or money investigating it except for an interest in current news on the subject that’s why I check here. It’s people like you that waste other people’s time by thinking your sooo cool by pointing out the worlds problems and then assigning blame to people on here. Don’t waste my time or other people’s time.
It’s a shame you have all these issues. It’s not like our governments are spending money on UFO research, and I’m sure our scientists are doing the best they can to sort out these problems. You accuse others of not doing anything to help sort things out, but I would be interested to hear of your achievements helping the world sort out it’s problems!
You are completely immature by the way you phrase things, by acting as if you have the right to tell people what they saw when you weren’t even there, and by the last sentence you wrote I would guess you’re either really young or just mentally retarded or have serious issues. You can only conclude logically that you don’t know what people saw when they report a sighting, and whether you like that or not is irrelevant.
All I can go on here is what you say to me and others when I call you immature, as I don’t know anything else about you and neither care to. May I remind you that you came on here accussing others of being immature for just reporting an observation, yet you only respond in an argumentive way with statements which have nothing to do with anything you’ve argued about in the first place.
refer you to what you said earlier “And how immature of you not been able to give a solution in the first place then harping that you saw a UFO. And that is going to help us out is it not ? How immature. Get real man ! ”
I still can’t believe you said this, it’s absolutely idiotic. So do you spend your time solving cancer all day long?! I doubt it! Most people don’t go looking for ufos, it’s just something that happens by chance, nothing to do with anyone being more special than anyone else at all! Your claim that any potential alien visitation is worthless to the human race is absurd. The only immaturity is your reaction to this situation from what I can see.
You go about your house being in order, that is irrelevant. I don’t care about your house, your life or anything about you for that matter. You accuse others of attention seeking when you are the one coming onto a blog about aliens just to call people names. LOL.
For someone who’s opinion is that ufos and aliens are fantasy, you are hypocritical by believing in god. I don’t believe in either, I’m only interested in the provable truth, But there is one thing that ufo research has, albeit I’m not involved in, and that’s anecdotal evidence by ordinary people in large numbers. Religions have nothing at all. Visions by priests are hardly considered to be normal everyday people having visions, and the bible is barely anecdotal as you can’t prove who the author(s) are.
you said “Immaturity is when you don’t sort out your own problems and ostracizing it instead of hanging it on something that is not “out ” there. That I find it the most immature thing I have even encountered.”
I’m not hanging onto anything ‘out there’, but I’m not going to claim that nothing is ‘out there’ at the same time. Clinging onto something unproven as fact is immature, but if you believe in god so much as you stated earlier you’re only doing the same thing.
you said “Just stop it ok ? Stop telling me I am immature, my house is in order and all is well as well my life”
Just listen to yourself and what you wrote, it’s pathetic. Behave mature and nobody will call you immature, it’s as simple as that. Even a trained dog could understand how to behave better.
you said “Reality is what counts and I ain’t seeing it in UFO’s and Aliens”
Reality is what counts, whether aliens exist or not. Not just if it fits your narrow-minded perception.
p.s. you better check out the actual definition of immaturity as it’s defined much more general and can also mean for example, that acting like a spoilt child whinging on a msg board is childish and so immature.
Kj, your logic is faulty, and that was my point alone. I can’t be bothered to argue with you about how unanswered questions get answered by science. They don’t just go round looking at each other confused as you might think.
By not seeking out any answers you’re just sticking your head in the sand. It’s all good and well to just say god did everything for us, but that achieves nothing at all. Your reality is not everybody else’s reality most likely because you are wrong, did you ever consider that.
To John,
I will show you about the God that I serve. And not some great pie in the sky.
http://www.themaninthesynagogue.org
Check out the Miracle section and the prophetic section. I don’t need any channeling to find out something that is been past off as Alien or maybe something is out there.
P.s. I am not retarded in anyway or form, IQ tests have proven that my level is at 129, that’s hardly retarded. Not that it says anything and it is not even important. To be retarded you need to be under a score of 80. You just want to overpower me with that you are superior towards me, or so you think. Think again, it ain’t working. Now why would you do that for ? Are you insecure ? How immature. You have proven to me that you can’t maintain a edifying conversation, you just hafta be in there with your superiority complex and tear someone down. Plus you aren’t even listening whatsoever, even if you tried. All you hear is you and about you and your investigations of truths that you can’t even underscore or prove. You don’t even listen to many poor people who suffer, who I am a father to. Tyvm.
@ KJ
The bible was written by people, inspired by God. It is filled with much human error, but there are many valid moral teachings.
The God of our ancestors, explained by ignorant people, is pretty much what the bible is. Today’s definition of God must adhere to the know laws of the universe, not some fantasy ignorance. All these reported “miracles, ghosts, ufos,” must all have logical, explainable by science, answers.
But God could be very much like time, both are very much alike. People’s consciousness allow for spiritual/meditative states, you can feel God like you can feel time, you feel goodness in your heart when you do good things. But you can’t prove time exists, you can’t touch it, smell it, taste it, hear it, or see it. It can’t be directly observed, like God, yet time is a very real thing.
So I hope you aren’t wasting your time being brainwashed by fundamentalists because they are are nuts.
We’re wasting our time arguing with KJ here.
The word UFO alone shouldn’t be argued anyways. Have we forgotten what UFO means, “Unidentified Flying Object”. If it was “Identified” there wouldn’t be any means to argue. So for you to sit here and argue about us seeing a Unidentified flying object is senseless. Now lets get back on track here. If nothing happens on October 14th. then so be it, nothing happens. Do you people who said it wasn’t going to happen want a cookie? Do you feel good making someone sound “Silly” by laughing or shooting down their Beliefs on what they have seen or believe in?
thats so wierd. wtc
I left a comment for KJ earlier but it had a link in it so it’s probably waiting to be moderated. If it gets thru’ there’s a scientific link about global consciousness.
You’re absolutely right Royalti, kjs arguments are basically non-existent when a ufo just means unidentified.
Joe, one thing about time though. There are properties of time that we can measure in whatever units you wish. Anyone’s realistic concept of what a god depends on how the reality around you is perceived by the individual, but this must not break any known laws of physics. How we perceive time is what exists, but we know our perception must be accurate as it has many applications. And we can see the effects of time, for example as something travels at closer to the speed of light, time slows down for the person with respect to slower moving objects.
A person with a high IQ doesn’t write, hafta and ain’t, they would write with a more educated style so if your IQ says you are smart, you really should back it up with your writings. My IQ registered 139 and even though I do not have a college degree, I try to write at an intelligent level so person’s with a higher education will take interest in what I have to “say”. (spelling doesn’t count LOL)
Now as far as your religious comments, People who spout the bible as the last word in everything do not need to be on a site where there is talk about UFO’s and Aliens or even science. Go chat on a site with others who believe as you do or a site that is geared towards religious debate.
Just for fun why don’t you go to the web pages that have UFO’s and Ancient art and see how may paintings have “flying saucers” in them next to Jesus or Mary and ask youself why would several persons paint these images unless there was some merit to it, especially since these paintings were done hundreds of years before man learned how to fly.
Then open your mind to the theory that Aliens, Science and God have a very real connection.
To Royalti, John and Joe and others,
NOW PAY ATTENTION !!!!
Who wants to be busy with “Unindentified Flying Objects”. Does that mean if my neighbor throws a plastic saucer through the air across my garden and I happen to photograph it just in time, can I make world-news in telling everyone I have spotted a UFO ? Because basically that is what I see happening over here. It’s about UFO’s, now what ? Why the heck do these UFO’s not email or phone us or take over a satellite and broadcast what they are doing for all those years. They never do. They rather use a channeler on the other side of the ocean to bring over their messages. Sorry but for me that comes over retarded and I am saying this in a nice way. I am not here to call anyone names, but to make clear that those things that “so called” are out there only makes anyone feeling lurked at. Big brother did that in 1984 with George Orwell and today this is reality. Now with reality I can work. But far distance things that can be easily Adobe Photoshopped is just not for me. Let me also make clear once and for all, I am not the great sage here, not am I claiming I know everything.
Let me put it practically, Today I got my car insurance renewal. The premium is so high even that I have driven 7 years without any accidents. Actually 23 years in total. This is because I moved to a different country. Now who’s responsibility is it now ? Me or the UFO’s who have never been able to help anyone than just so to speak “hanging out there?” Because most people think about UFO’s they are there to observe us and help us or abduct us in bizarre stories. I read also many times that people loose their jobs their spouses because many people think they are just loonies. Now here is the deal. The simple fact is that not any UFO or future UFO has done anything to my benefit, nor do I read stories that does other people benefit. I am still falling over, the mystical, mysterious aspect of it all. How come that billions of people, rich, poor, alone, married, healthy and sick never see a UFO. How come it is always those who are already in the mystical, mysterious sector.
1. To make money out of it.
2. To come over weighty, “I have seen an UFO now listen to me, I know what to do and what is next.”
3. Making people crazy.
4. Making people get scared.
5. Let people talk on a forum like this and argue, yes, no, no, yes, no.
6. Writing books and more articles.
7. And more articles.
8. Suspense.
9. Foolishness.
10. Name calling, condescending, fighting and manipulating.
Now I stop at 10. Because there are numerous reasons why people need and hafta vent their findings.
Let’s do it again right ok.
Let’s see:
Shirley MacLaine, the famous actress who as a high priestess of the New Age movement now claims to be “god”, is just one of many who claim that there is no such thing as absolute, objective truth.
You know why she claims this, because she can tell us the benefit of the doubt, because she has the right to do that. Freedom of speech. Now how manipulative is that for example. Try to state it in countries where they will declare you for bonkers. Why don’t we go and ask Miss Shirley to demonstrate her goddess status. She must at least be able to demonstrate us what nobody can do at the least.
Again I have to say over here: Whatever picture I have seen, every-time I see that a UFO is far, far, far away with a blowup next to it and even that is vague, grainy and unclear and undistinguishable. ??? What is the point to inundate the internet with pictures like that ?
This is my problem here:
The answer to the question of absolute truth turns out to be very important, not only in drawing religious conclusions or any conclusions regarding the issue of UFO’s Aliens and you name it, It is also in the matter of ethics. Ethics is important to all of us, because it deals with the question of what is right and wrong.
What I am saying is this, if there is no such thing as absolute truth, then there is no ultimate moral rightness or wrongness about anything. It may be “right for you” but that doesn’t mean it is “right for me”.
So since I can’t find any ultimate moral rightness in UFO’s and Aliens in whatever form they come, I just have to reject the existence of it of being Absolute Truth and hard evidence.
Is the statement, “There is no absolute truth” absolutely true? If it is, then there is something that is absolutely true that statement itself. If it isn’t absolutely true, then why insist that we should all believe it?
We can illustrate through a small conversation.
Joe: “There is no such thing as abolute truth.”
Mary: “Are you sure?”
Joe: “Yes I am.”
Mary: “Are you absolutely sure about that?”
Joe: “Er, yes, I mean, no – well, maybe.”
Here goes the benefit of the doubt again. Errmm I just want hard evidence and pictures from inside an UFO and it’s operators and conversations and why “they” are “here”. What is so hard about that ?After all those 100rds of years so called “encounters”. And I exclude the so called abductions, because if humankind can write fairy-tales, they can make up abductions easily for the benefit of the doubt again. It seems to be too difficult to sort that out anywhere you go on the internet regarding this and even if you talk to the people in Ufology.
And this is not directed at anyone to take a shot what they believe. It’s their loss, their problem, not mind. But my problem is simply this: Why hang on things that is still unexplainable until there is the right evidence like I posted in my http://www.themaninthesynagogue.org for example. The pictures are not grainy, vague or indistinguishable, but clear and direct to the point. That is what I call “Absolute Truth Evidence”. Ofcourse you can now start to complain, Oh this might be Photoshopped too. Well you don’t hafta believe me, but I have seen that it is happening in this place and true. It’s happening. What do you want more ? If you want to find out, come over to this ministry and see for yourself. That is the reality. Reality is what I talk about. It’s not mystical, it’s not mysterious, hence the evidence is proven by doctors and film-camera’s who are right on top of it.
I can’t understand people who are busy for 100′rds of years to go and figure out UFO’s while they have not got close to the conclusion of it whatsoever. Yet still they spent years upon years on things like that, in the hope one day we will have an answer to all what is been filmed, photographed, written upon. Just listen to me, It’s NOT going to happen. It is really simple like that.
All that I can see is escapism and straying to accept the issue here that i am making is that it is God all along and no-one here had an encounter with Him in His Presence, otherwise they would know it was futile time spent. Why rake your brains off, while it is pretty simple. Faith is the evidence of things NOT seen. And trust me God is the greatest Scientist ever has come to pass. This is not contradictory of what I said before about hard evidence. Because the pictures in that website are hard evidence, not graininess, no far distance, no indistinguishable things. There are also video’s about it on Youtube, just type in TB Joshua and you will see. Camera right on top of it. Hard evidence. Absolute Truth.
This is not about religion or even the proclamation of it. Mankind in history has always been searching for their existence of their lives and all the excuses that have come with it. Billions of books have been written about it ! Yet still when you look around, it is a total mess. Mankind is incapable of ruling this earth. Totally and completely. If you deny this, you need to go see a shrink is my opinion. Murder, greed, discord, fear, troubles, drugs, poverty, financial issues, hurricanes, HIV, AIDS, prostitution, wars, earthquakes etc. etc. And yet still we are looking for the impossible to manifest in the form of UFO’s and Aliens. Sorry, but that is it for me. I can’t do anything with that. I am really really sorry you lot can in a time such as this.
Conclusion:
It is logically inconsistent to deny the reality of absolute truth. Even if everyone in the world denied its existence, they would all be wrong, as shown by the arguments above as I said and debated. But if logic itself has no ultimate validity, there is no objective basis for communication, rationality and so much that could give meaning to our world or even be on this forum. It is certain that we would never have made any scientific or technological progress at all if we had started out with this kind of thinking.
The logical proof of the statement I make here is, “There exists an absolute truth,” and I will keep myself afloat and standing straight with that without sinking in a hole that never will be uncovered in anyone’s lifetime here and is almost trivial in its simplicity to understand why. Suppose we assert the negation of the statement, that is, that there is no such thing as absolute truth. By making that assertion, we claim that the sentence “There exists no absolute truth” is absolutely true. The statement is self-contradictory, so its negation, “There exists an absolute truth,” is true.
And so you can go on and on and always find fault with anything that someone says and write something against it. Just for the sake of it. Duh !
Many lines down the road again written today, what have we achieved ? Anybody ?
Cheers,
KJ
Now dont get me wrong here but a ufologist is considered to be “crazy”. Now a crazy person says about a “crazy” person that the person is crazy. Isnt that crazy?
Where do you draw the line about what is reasonable and what not. I think the hole ufo topic pushes the limits of imagination.
KJ, you still keep failing to put any real points across, and I’ve already countered all of that rubbish.
I have never faked a ufo sighting and if you’re claiming that’s what everyone has done I was right about you knowing nothing about ufo sightings. And in fact you know even less.
you said “Here goes the benefit of the doubt again. Errmm I just want hard evidence and pictures from inside an UFO and it’s operators and conversations and why “they” are “here”. What is so hard about that ?After all those 100rds of years so called “encounters”.”
So does everyone, you still fail to grasp to make even one point about anything. I could ask for the same evidence for your so called absolute truth you speak of that you claim to “know”.
Your make-believe conversation between joe and mary is not how people speak to each other, except in your mind. Smart people only try and answer what is feasible to answer right now, and we don’t wish to live in your fantasy land.
you said “The pictures are not grainy, vague or indistinguishable, but clear and direct to the point. That is what I call “Absolute Truth Evidence”.
Wtf are you talking about here… This is about as ridiculous as taking a photo of a tree and then worshipping it because the photo is picture perfect. There are some good quality ufo videos actually. There’s one on youtube with a triangular craft by appearance shining a laser, supposedly videoed by an Irish politician. And don’t make the mistake of thinking that I’m saying they’re not fake, because I never said that. And I’ve had enough of your straw-man arguments.
you said “I can’t understand people who are busy for 100′rds of years to go and figure out UFO’s while they have not got close to the conclusion of it whatsoever.”
Already countered that argument several times. Quantum physics is not complete and we’re still trying to link quantum with classical. Just because things take time, it doesn’t mean you give up and go to church instead. And actually in the telegraph there is someone from a ufo magazine who is claiming they have data supporting a craft landing somewhere. So actually ufologists do some work, unlike dole seekers like yourself.
you said “And yet still we are looking for the impossible to manifest in the form of UFO’s and Aliens”
I still can’t believe you’re using the same argument to attack witnesses and say ‘why talk about ufos go and fix problems like aids.’ Why don’t you go and fix aids… it’s probably people like you that have this disease! I really don’t care about insulting you now because I’ve lost any respect for someone who keeps bringing up the same faulty arguments. The only impossible thing is for you to attain any common sense.
you said “It is certain that we would never have made any scientific or technological progress at all if we had started out with this kind of thinking.
My kind of thinking is critical thinking, exactly how science works so I suggest you go back to the drawing board and try and work out another strategy. Science is full of speculation and unproven theories as well as our accepted knowledge base, which you would understand definitely exists as fact if you went to university and studied a scientific degree. Scientists speculate on ufos in both scientific papers/articles and books, some even put their name at the page stating it as the truth. I suggest you go do some research first before assuming you know the truth, but we all know you’re good at being an arrogant all-knower. It’s a shame that they can’t research god, as there’s something called actual evidence which is required otherwise there’s absolutely nothing to research, and hear-say and prophets try as they might are not providing this evidence. The above few lines aren’t even necessary to discredit this last remark by you, as you believe in god and so that contradicts your attacks on critical thinking skills employed by engineers and scientists, as you hardly employ those skills yourself. Tell me, how do you convince yourself of this nonsense you write, because I would have to say this is the most laughable statement I’ve ever seen on here.
All of your logic is utterly faulty. You start with a premise that something must be true, god in your case. You then attempt to fit everything into that limited false reality, and causing disagreement which is fully justified.
I don’t find fault with everything, only obvious faulty arguments such as yours. Blame yourself, not me for this, as it’s not my fault you’re an idiot.
Right that’s enough of your gibberish. I only skimmed over the last couple of your paragraphs, as you’re hardly in a place to define absolute truth, and so you have zero credibility at which to lecture me or anyone else.
I just can’t be bothered writing any more on here to you. You’re a complete waste of time and space. You are beyond reasoning and your ramblings are utterly insane. Good luck trying to convince people of your nonsensical prattle as I think you’re gonna’ need it.
In a nutshell kj, you’re bonkers. Go away and good riddance.
@ KJ
I think you need a complete reeducation on whats really going on in the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlghYpDx0f4
It is our duty to search for the truth, to discuss and share information.
If you have a former astronaut say aliens exist, with much anecdotal evidence; or doctors pulling out real implants that broadcast on a certain frequencies; or many videos and pictures depicting UFOs, something has got to be going on, end of story. They are even starting to get serious news coverage.
And why are your freaking posts so long, just get to the point already.
And yet again KJ is back arguing with Peoples beliefs again. Give it up KJ. I really feel silly arguing with someone whom has knowledge o UFOs out of things he’s read in books. Lol Come on get serious, you say why don’t they “email or phone us or take over a satellite and broadcast what they are doing for all those years”. So here we have KJ a non believer speaking as If he knows how UFO’s communicate. And yes they have used other forms of communication, how do you think our govt. knows about them. But my bad I guess everyone, even Hollywood, just one day fell asleep and dreamed of this “UFO” and said hey I should make this a Movie. We get the Idea and concept from somewhere. Over thousands of people didn’t just get the “Idea” of a UFO in a dream. Now like I said seeing is believe, and a non believer such as KJ, wouldn’t spend the time in observing the skies at night or researching anything because he doesn’t believe so therefore your evidence will never come to play KJ because you don’t spend the time as many of people who believe do into the matter.
To John, Paul, Joe and Royalti,
First of all John, everything that you have put on this last post is applicable to yourself. That is what you are trying to prove about me is total and complete rubbish. You don’t know me and you hang your whole self on some few words I have put here. Not even to mention that you are geared like that to try denting in some minds that are not that stupid to accept anything that is been put before them.
Your critical thinking does not do anything in your environment or of that of others then upset and criticize people and bring them on the wrong track with delusions and illusions you have been spouting as far I have seen. This is regarding about anything that you think is true. The concept of truth is wasted upon you because you are “stuck”. It is just in your head and locked up as if that is the standard the entire world has to hang themselves upon. It is the same as the speech of Hank Paulson this evening did who can make eloquent speeches with fantastic words in it, except being practical and comprehending for normal listener.
The same is you and your critical thinking that is about to explode in incoherent writings down here. You go in the trend of: How can we create more mess and discord about as much issues that a brain (yours) can contain in coming over “educated”. In that I can clearly see you have totally and completely failed and missed the point to put any evidence where this forum is actually about. Yet, You are screaming and yelling that you will come forth with your evidence. Where is it, I have yet to see anything ?
You just found a chew-toy in me was it not and you are now raging against me in the hope you can overpower me with your erratic behavior and words that are totally and completely misguided and false in the illusion of your brain activities. Are you sure your neurons and dendrites are firing properly in your cerebral cortex ? Or are you just backfiring on your reptilian brain abilities ? If there are any that is.
1. Prove to me that my logic is faulty ? Without getting into gibberish of explanations that a normal person can understand.
2. Your assumptions of hearsay is that you are not willing to investigate it, just because you are “stuck” in your own convictions you think are true and there is no room in your intelligence to even add such absolute truth regarding that.
3. Again you have fallen of your pedestal again in calling me names because you find it suitable and correct to ascribe such things to an individual you don’t even know personally. Yet you take the liberty to do so. Does that simply mean you can’t even uphold a normal conversation ? I think the latter.
4. You are just as arrogant as anyone else I have seen who thinks they have it all in their pocket and knowledge, yet still have two left hands to anything practical to achieve.
5. You just don’t like it that someone is taking you on, on your level and gives you rebut and replique, because you just want to be the one that has the last word.
6. Poor you.
7. Ofcourse you don’t have anything to write anymore because you simply have run out of your reruns you usually do until someone disappears and clearly you have run out of fodder, which you use to other people you just downright deliberately disagree with.
8. If you employ the skills you are saying you do, then show me one project that is of exellence regarding that ? I doubt you have one.
9. The same counts for you, I have seen nothing more than ramblings, incoherencies and lies of so called truths that cannot be established even if you put a electron microscope on it and magnify it a million times with glasses on.
10. The prattle that you produce of convincing others of your so called “intellect” or the discrepancy of it, is as much as the plastic bag that is in front of my garden fence when the rubbish bin collector comes to collect it on a Monday morning.
P.S. I am not on the dole. Your assumptions are incorrect.
Why don’t you go and make some pictures of a real tree you suggested and stare at it for a day or 2, perhaps you do something more useful than you are doing now.
And I have the right to Agree to disagree. Too bad. Now go to the garden and eat worms.
Paul,
Here you go again, being condescending and picking out one word that is suitable for you to throw at me. It only shows you are incapable to glean something that are nuggets of wisdom you so eagerly want to trample down in your ignorance as John is doing. But then again, you might not be able to say anything better then that anyways. I perceive you are limited into that. Correct me if I am wrong.
To joe,
Joe, JFK is dead, you were saying ? What has that to do with the present state of this world ? Do we need to dig him up to save this world ?
Royalti,
Hmm Royalti where shall I begin ? You are right, yes books are to be read,(of-course you don’t read books) that is where people make money off is it not ? Billions of them. And for your information, do you really think I am going to sit outside like a raving lunatic watching in the sky to see if there something passing by ? You gotta be kidding me. I leave that up to you. I surely have something else to do then such waste of time. Like feeding the poor, looking after the fatherless, homeless, widows and rebut people who can’t stop believing the lies they are supporting etc. etc.
What you want me to do ? Join the UFO community ? So we all can rub shoulders how exciting this all is. Don’t hold your breath.
Take care,
P. S. The one’s I have spoken to are one of the most grumpiest people I have met online. Maybe you should do something about that.
If you can’t come up with the evidence then stop holding up the illusions. This is where it was all about in the first place. Scroll back to the beginning. Good luck, staring into oblivion, folks.
@ KJ
Douchebag
A douchebag is someone who is incredibly annoying. “Man that guy is such a douchebag!”.Terms such as douchebag and douche are also popular derogatory terms of insult or ridicule in North America. These terms have become popular in the comedic media, and can mean a variety of different insults: Someone who is annoying, bossy or embarrassing. Someone who is stupid, intellectually challenged or mentally deranged but less than clinically insane. Someone who is unintelligently lying or scamming. Someone who is arrogant, elitist or snobby. Someone whom you don’t like. Someone who is socially inept. Someone who you think is mentally challenged.
I think this definition pretty much sums you up.
@ KJ
Douchebag
A douchebag is someone who is incredibly annoying. “Man that guy is such a douchebag!” Terms such as douchebag and douche are also popular derogatory terms of insult or ridicule in North America. These terms have become popular in the comedic media, and can mean a variety of different insults: Someone who is annoying, bossy or embarrassing. Someone who is stupid, intellectually challenged or mentally deranged but less than clinically insane. Someone who is unintelligently lying or scamming. Someone who is arrogant, elitist or snobby. Someone whom you don’t like. Someone who is socially inept. Someone who you think is mentally challenged.
Sums you up quite nicely.
Hi Joe, im currently 18 years old and im really confused about this conversation about reality and delusion I currently read truthism.com and all the contents in it reminded me how i use to think when i was 12 and ever since Ive been sleeping all over again and im telling you when u wake up again u realize this whole life we try to live is pointless i just cant let it go i can its hard and my mentor has become into sleeper im talking about and it just shut me down please help me!!!
he’s at it again blah blah blah blah blah. haha.
This is directed to others and not KJ as I will keep my word and not bother wasting time countering pointless non-sensical arguments.
He still doesn’t realise people see ufos by chance and most don’t stare at the sky. And he thinks he’s beyond logic, by saying that everything I’ve said doesn’t apply to him. What a fool!
I think Aylett is taking that web photo literally! I think its meant to be an answer to people who say that Stonehenge was built by aliens, and the ‘theory’ that the flat gold disks with the mysterious geometric symbols came from an alien spacecraft that crashed 4,000 years ago in southern England is nonsense, they are just archaeological finds from burials, and no it’s not a conspiracy to cover up the truth! The original can found if you look up ‘Bush Barrow Lozenge’.
@ Joe,
Joe, stop being such a Autistic with a Spectrum Disorder and get a real life. That sums you up as well John. You get into a repetitive way of discussing any matters what I and others have heard over and over again.
For the people who do not know what ASD is:
Autistic spectrum disorder (ASD) is a lifelong condition that affects how a person communicates with, and relates to, other people. It also affects how they make sense of the world around them.
Autistic spectrum disorder is the term that is used to describe a group of disorders, including autism and Asperger syndrome. The word ’spectrum’ is used because the characteristics of the condition vary from one person to another. Those with autism may also have a learning disability. Those who have Asperger syndrome tend to have average, or above average, intelligence, but still have difficulty making sense of the world.
The causes of ASD are still unknown, and research is ongoing. However, research suggests that genetic factors may be involved, and there is also some evidence to show that the condition may be linked to environmental factors, such as pollution, or viruses like rubella (German measles).
Recent research suggests that around 1 in 100 people have ASD in the UK. It is thought to affect four times as many males than females, although the reason for this is unknown.
There is no cure for ASD and it continues throughout life. However, many treatments and different types of support are available. An early diagnosis can help to put appropriate support into place for both the individual and their families.
@ Andrew,
When you relax and let things not so get at you, you will be able to relate to it. Take one step at the time. Just don’t take anything too serious. Go swimming and enjoy some football with your friends. Take your girlfriend out and get her an ice-cream and laugh. Or do some biking in the forests. Fresh air can clear someone’s depressed mind.
Ok I will enter the discussion again just to clarify a few things.
What was repeated was necessary, in the same way as school teachers have to repeat to pupils of lower learning capacity.
And all of this garbage from you just because we don’t wanna’ believe in your god.
Are you trying to relate all ufo sightings to psychological disorders? Can you prove that? No!
My life doesn’t involve attacking others for something they claim to witness, so I think that’s better from a morality standing point than yours. A ufo is unidentified, so your case to argue against that is impossible.
you said a bit earlier “Prove to me that my logic is faulty ? Without getting into gibberish of explanations that a normal person can understand.”
Ah so you don’t understand me, I thought you said you were clever. It appears not. One word “evidence” proves your logic is faulty, or rather, the lack of it. And lack of sanity as well maybe.
Ok I will enter the discussion again just to clarify a few things.
You took the bait ? Hmm I am surprised.
“What was repeated was necessary, in the same way as school teachers have to repeat to pupils of lower learning capacity.”
You are not my teacher not my lecturer, even if you have such a delusional thought that is.
“And all of this garbage from you just because we don’t wanna’ believe in your god.”
Nobody forces you to believe in my God, it is your own choice that is here left for you to choose. Or anything else for that effect. Nobody was putting any funnels on your gob and told you to swallow it.
“Are you trying to relate all ufo sightings to psychological disorders? Can you prove that? No!”
I cannot find myself going into the garden or park to go and hunt UFO’s. Something in my nature just tells me this: go do something else.
“My life doesn’t involve attacking others for something they claim to witness, so I think that’s better from a morality standing point than yours. A ufo is unidentified, so your case to argue against that is impossible.”
I did not attack you ? I just gave you rebuttal. You just can’t handle it. Not my problem. I want you to go and understand there are other important things to do then looking for UFO’s You are saying that I cannot do this or say this ? I just did. So live with it.
you said a bit earlier “Prove to me that my logic is faulty ? Without getting into gibberish of explanations that a normal person can understand.”
Ah so you don’t understand me, I thought you said you were clever. It appears not. One word “evidence” proves your logic is faulty, or rather, the lack of it. And lack of sanity as well maybe.
Well, if you just would explain to me what I said wrong, we might get somewhere, but you don’t do that, you just twist my words and use them against me as if you are more intelligent than me. It’s not problem for me if you are more intelligent. I can be totally relaxed about that. I am not sure if you can. It really seems to affect you that I am the first person that makes you laugh in ages.
“Tell me, how do you convince yourself of this nonsense you write, because I would have to say this is the most laughable statement I’ve ever seen on here.”
But to me, that does not come over as being social and still has difficulty making sense of the world and what is going on in there and the people that have issues to resolve and need help. Instead you are looking for UFO’s and all that. I don’t hear you about how you can improve poverty, orphans, widows, widowers, starvation, people who die unnecessary, etc etc. If you ask me, I can tell you ? This is what I do and live and die for, of-course this is so wrong and nonsical of me is it not ?
And one thing, I don’t have AIDS or HIV. Again this is another assumption. Did you call my doctor and he told you that ? The last time I saw a doctor was last year for a report that I needed to take with me when I travel the abroad.
I have travelled to 31 countries and most of them I have been more than 10 times and yet you find that I don’t know what I am talking about ? That I am not in touch with the world what is going on ? Is that what you are saying ?
You don’t even know me or what I do and what my specialism is. Yet still you are trying to catch me in a discussion in which you and your other forum friends are shooting arrows to a passer by who has the right to agree to disagree. It seems to me that this is hard to comprehend for you.
It takes more than 3-4 people to talk me in a corner. Especially when I stand in front of sometimes 10,000 of them. You were saying again ? I am annoying ? Good for you, at least I get you thinking about yourself.
Watch this Joe and John, The person who upsets you the most is your best teacher, because they bring you face to face with who you are.
Now I am going to my bed, because I have things to do. Cya,
@kj
thanks alot kj i appreciate it its not that im depressed its just im usually around older people and the whole girlfriend and ice cream stuff i do i guess its a phase that has been going on for a while thank you–
@ KJ
you said “You took the bait ? Hmm I am surprised.”
If you keep slandering me, am I not to respond?
you said “You are not my teacher not my lecturer, even if you have such a delusional thought that is. ”
It’s called an analogy, not wishful thinking. I can hardly imagine the tough times your teachers must have had, and wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
You began this whole escapade into nonsensical oblivion, and then wish to lay blame on someone else for rightfully pointing out why you were wrong.
you said “Nobody forces you to believe in my God, it is your own choice that is here left for you to choose. Or anything else for that effect. Nobody was putting any funnels on your gob and told you to swallow it.”
Except you almost cry when someone disagrees.
you said “I cannot find myself going into the garden or park to go and hunt UFO’s. Something in my nature just tells me this: go do something else.”
Again you seem to think we all do that, and we don’t.
you said “I did not attack you ? I just gave you rebuttal. You just can’t handle it. Not my problem. I want you to go and understand there are other important things to do then looking for UFO’s”
You called a witness immature before I even said a word to you. Do you even know what rebuttal means : “The introduction of contradicting or opposing evidence showing that what witnesses said occurred is not true”
So what evidence did you find, none at all. Why don’t you just admit you’re a fraud and not very good at it.
There are many more equally as important things as ufos, where did I say there wasn’t. Your straw-man tactics just get more absurd.
you said “You are saying that I cannot do this or say this ? I just did. So live with it.”
Hehe no I didn’t, I said what you said was incorrect, I didn’t tell you to not say it. You don’t like that, you live with it.
you said “Well, if you just would explain to me what I said wrong”
Already done…
you said “we might get somewhere, but you don’t do that, you just twist my words and use them against me as if you are more intelligent than me.”
I thought that was what you were doing by claiming you had all the answers and using your straw-man tactics.
you said “It’s not problem for me if you are more intelligent. I can be totally relaxed about that. I am not sure if you can.”
This has got to do with only, and only about you being a complete loony-toon.
you said “It really seems to affect you that I am the first person that makes you laugh in ages.”
Wrong… and wrong again.
you said “But to me, that does not come over as being social and still has difficulty making sense of the world and what is going on in there and the people that have issues to resolve and need help.”
You forget this is not the pub with my friends, this is me being critical of your bad logic. You repeat a lot of things I’ve said about you, as if you can’t find your own points you just copy other people’s regardless of whether or not they apply.
you said “Instead you are looking for UFO’s and all that.”
How many more times, you see one by chance alone. It’s a waste of time to search for them.
you said “I don’t hear you about how you can improve poverty, orphans, widows, widowers, starvation, people who die unnecessary, etc etc. If you ask me, I can tell you ? This is what I do and live and die for, of-course this is so wrong and nonsical of me is it not ?”
There are all sorts one can do to help poor in those situations. When did I say that was a worthless task?
you said “I have travelled to 31 countries and most of them I have been more than 10 times and yet you find that I don’t know what I am talking about ? That I am not in touch with the world what is going on ? Is that what you are saying ?”
Yes, along those lines. And almost everyone agrees with that.
you said “You don’t even know me or what I do and what my specialism is. Yet still you are trying to catch me in a discussion in which you and your other forum friends are shooting arrows to a passer by who has the right to agree to disagree. It seems to me that this is hard to comprehend for you.”
I’m glad I don’t know you, you sometimes sound like a nutcase. Agreeing to disagree is fine when someone doesn’t contradict himself as much as you by claiming various unknowns and condemning other unknowns.
you said “It takes more than 3-4 people to talk me in a corner. Especially when I stand in front of sometimes 10,000 of them. You were saying again ? I am annoying ? Good for you, at least I get you thinking about yourself. ”
I hope you don’t talk as much garbage to them as here, otherwise you’ll probably destroy their lives. Being critical of everything including yourself is part of critical thinking.
you said “Watch this Joe and John, The person who upsets you the most is your best teacher, because they bring you face to face with who you are.”
This teacher would have to talk some sense for that to work, which is something you lack. You haven’t taught me anything new, apart from the fact that you’re a hypocritical clown. But that’s always useful to know!
hey kj, are you that fraudster you call a prophet on that website link you posted earlier?
Why do you have to be negative about this to all you non-believers out there. just think it can come true. and if it doesn’t then o well. nothing is gonna happen to you the one that predicted it will be the one getting all the remarks and bad sayings.
I agree that this event will occur on October 14th, 2008
There are many channelers confirming this date and it doesn’t make any sense to me that they would make it up, ultimately discrediting everything they’re doing. The channelers believe what they are saying. I believe that something will happen on this date, exactly what… we just have to wait and see!
http://www.escapetheillusion.com
and
http://www.galacticmessages.com
Interesting how you say you’re a realist. That’s the whole problem. You base yourself with a logical mind keeping yourself at a lower vibrational frequency so you can look past the limitless possibilities of this three dimensional plain of existence.
October 14th is an event that is going to occur that will be bring love, joy, and change to humanity forever regardless of whether you limited logical “realist” mind denies it or not. Prepare to be shocked those of you who merely consider this a “laugh” or a “joke.”
There will be laughs and jokes alright…But in a shock and awe nature as our interstellar family pays us a visit on October 14th. Keep looking up my friends!
~Namaste.
All these messages of love and understanding are just just pouring in.
Project Bluebeam for sure. By the way the federation just called, they don’t want to know either of you.
what i think is you should let them believe in what they going to believe in it gives them a sort of hope leave them be untill that day comes you shouldn’t really make fun of anyone. i hope something happens because that would be nice to see the proof but then again certain people that can’t handle the truth will panic so therefor im indifferent to the matter…
I thought logic was being phased out as feeling knows thousands of times faster than working through a logic puzzle. Ask your heart, your heart is a compass for guiding you through reality… Ask it any question and feel your heart point you in the right direction, LITERALLY LIKE A COMPASS. I thought the real truth was found in your heart. Silence knows, thoughts don’t. Thoughts spin around the truth as much as you want, defining the truth in every way possible, but the only real truth is that center point of silence and pure being.
I thought God was manifested as each and every one of us, and that god is closer than we think… Hint Hint… Closer to the point than we ‘think’… because thoughts spiral around the truth, while the point is, the ultimate truth is pure silence and pure ever present being and the knowing that goes with feeling every aspect of that eternal state of being.
What proof do you need to prove your SELF, when reality is yours to make?
I’m going to wait until October 14th. I can’t wait to see what happens and won’t be disappointed either way.
The Key is to transcending both Hope and Fear.
@ Andrew
I don’t really understand your question, your entire post was one long run-on sentence. I guess you’re asking me what to think about reality? Well if your only 18, your reality should consist mostly of girls and fun. Don’t bog yourself down worrying about things and live an exciting youth.
The most important thing in this life is to live for others. Smile a lot, be nice to strangers, if you can feed some homeless people, donate some money etc… Basically ask yourself, when I’m dead and I’m standing before God what will I say to him?
I always ask myself that. What will I say, what good works can I point to in my life.
Apart from that, if you want to learn some techniques in meditation I recommend the “Astral projection workbook”. This is an excellent book with many exercises.
I also recommend that you use tachyonic stones. They sell the stones weaved into a belt that you can wear around your waist. It provides you with plenty of energy like nothing you’ve ever experienced. These stones are truly remarkable.
(92) John says:
“You know what… I find it absolutely astounding how someone involved in microbiology could take such leaps of faith, although not unsurprising if you live in the USA as they doctrinate you into religion from such a young age there that it’s almost impossible for people to consider a god not existing. I’ve heard even some school teachers believe in rubbish like you, that’s a scary thought. I wouldn’t send my kids to a school with deluded teachers.”
Oh, John, that is an amazing statement to make about the US regarding religion. Not only is it completely over generalized, but I am willing to bet you have NEVER EVEN BEEN TO THE USA. I bet you have never even VISITED. You want to talk about religious indoctrination? The UK still has religion taught in its schools. How do I know this? I live in the UK. If anyone is getting indoctrinated into religion in schools, its people in the UK. The USA has something called separation of church and state; look it up.
And, your debating skills took a dive when you used your anti-American ad hominem attack. It’s not only boring, but expected by obviously arrogant people like you.
By the way, not only do I not believe in God, so save your rhetoric, I don’t believe in the Oct 14 alien visit, either.
I found this interesting article about this at http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0908/blossom.html
LG,
I can surely tell you that John has only been the king of the local banana republic in a isolated area of the Atlantic and still does not know how to peel one. Let alone what religion and true faith is all about. He lives in a bubble of himself and is incapable to do a conversation of social conduct in a circle of people in where he is putting himself in isolation by throwing big words and science credo’s where he has never been part of.
@ Joe,
You know what you need to do with that belt, tighten it around your head and pull it that tight that some reality comes out of your cerebral cortex.
@ KJ
Hey DOUCHEBAG, don’t talk to me. You can take your comments and stick’em you know where.
If you can’t get along, then get lost. Everyone here has only posted negative comments about you, you should take a hint.
Unfortunately, DOUCHEBAGS are never aware of their DOUCHEBAGGERY, so I doubt we can be spared your moronic babbling.
All I know is we have come together to debate this serious mystery which might be part of our next evolutionary step.
We are all born into religions and even John has a good biblical name.
et’s talk about Ascending.
If you have to ASCEND regarding that into the message that is given by the so called Federation of Deception. Ermm light.
It’s all simply explainable. Just hear me out and see what is really happening.
No one has ascended into heaven before Jesus – Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Elijah ascended into heaven – 2 Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. This heaven in Hebrew means shaw-mah’-yim, shaw-meh’
The second form being dual of an unused singular; from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, as well as to the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve): – air
Only one may be correct as they are mutually exclusive. Which one?
Athanasius (also known as St Athanasius the Great a theologian, He is traditionally regarded as a great leader of the Church and is chronologically the first Doctor of the Church ) responded:
There is a teaching that there are a number of heavens.
First.
The heavens where the birds fly
Second.
The heaven of the stars.
Third. 2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
The heaven where God dwells and God’s Presence.
Fourth
Paradise where the saints and martyrs are which is before the throne of God (the portico of heaven as it were)
The abode of the souls of the “righteous dead” until Christ’s resurrections. It is now Empty. Separated by the Great Gulf.Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. And next to it is Hell Where the abode of the Wicked Dead are for Judgement in the End time.
As regarding Elijah it is quite possible that he (and John) ascended to Paradise, but not into the Holy City, nor the very Presence of God. It is believed Christ’s words about His ascension related to Himself within the Divine Presence and thus the dwelling place of God’s Throne and God Himself. This can be seen by the extra statement that Jesus said…”No one has ascended into heaven EXCEPT the Son of Man who IS IN HEAVEN” Jesus was standing on the earth at that very moment Hem claimed to be also in heaven at the very same time. (Only His Divinity explains this).
From this perspective there is no discrepancy.
In order to Ascend someone first has to die. This is in the message of these Federation of….. which is coming over as very hostile and evil and not as love what they proclaim they are doing. Which means that if others who come in the airspace of a country there must be a defence activated. If any other aircraft is entering in someone elses airspace in a country they will be taken down. This has never been the case with UFO’s and the Government so so speak knows about them. Why did they never take action to take out an UFO and investigate it and show it to the whole world to prove there is extraterrestrial activity. As recently been shown on a clip behind a news reader with the so called lights. Why are they just sitting there as sitting ducks and no-one takes action. In which makes this discussion even more lunatic because everyone believes they come in peace.
The whole American government is playing upon people’s emotional snare and plays a tune of, don’t worry, we have it all under control (with the so called extra terrestrial make up stories backing it up). They have got to make such a dumb story otherwise it is not believeable.
Has everyone seen that first the bill had to be signed first by the President and then it was explained by Hank Paulson afterwards, so you can’t go back on it as a citizen or member of another country ? As that is, so it is with this UFO and Alien issue. You are all been pulled the wool over your eyes by a system and lulled into another lie (again) that makes people believe everything is under control, while you lot are plain and simple slaves of the lies and systems that are been produced by people who channel and govern so called positive messages. How dumb this is. There is no other word for this.
If you feel that you want to be looked at, as being complete loonies, then go ahead. Because that is how it is been looked at by the down to earth people who know better.
Things like: Vibrations of Love, Lower Vibrations of Love, and other foolish terms are for people who live on cloud nine and drag people into a state of altered conciousness. Which is dangerous simply because of not been willing to put both feet down on the earth and rather live in a dreamstate of fiction and delusions.
Read this: Get real, get cracking, get your lazy butt out and help other people with their needs, their problems. Instead of hanging on a total and complete insane message that the Federation of….. idiocy is broadcasting on Youtube. Why the heck don’t they take over out TV screens, Phones, COmputers and Satellites by now ! They never do, they never will. Get your mindset and your stronghold delivered once and for all about this and start taking responsibilities of your own actions and misfortunes !
One thing that has always puzzled me about people grounded in religion is their low boiling point of tolerance to accept each of their fellow man’s truth. Truth is personal and singular, unique to the individual. No one person’s truth is exactly like another’s.
Christians and the like, become so enraged by their own confusion generated by internal logic conflicts they try to resolve within their own consciousness. When they try to argue a point and support it by their doctrine, you get what we have here; slanderous insults and bickering between the opposing fronts.
God is an intelligence beyond what non-enlightened people here (on the planet) can fathom. It also laughs and cries at the silly arguments that occur between these factions for the last 6,000 years because unlike what most accept, it does not interfere with our free will choices.
One bit of truth that some of the religious works have said though, is to treat others as we would like to be treated. This is the core of what we all should focus on. Especially so many christians I see spewing such acid remarks. Is that what your book says you should do? I think not.
We are much more than we think we are. We have been conditioned and trained to accept far less from birth. We relegate our imagination to a place of unnacceptable fantasy, but this is the place where spirit speaks to us daily.
Your mind will recieve a strong signal from your imagination on the 14th. The purpose is for you to stop treating your imagination as impossible, and begin to entertain the idea that anything is possible. When you can accept this as your truth, you will get small insignificant confirmations, if you look, in your daily life that spirit and your connection to All That Is, is indeed something to reconsider.
@ Jimmy,
“Anything is possible ?” is a on the fence sitting argument and has no personality whatsoever in defense. And no one is offended.
Am I here on this world to be entertained ? Are you all entertained ?
Murder, drugs, prostitution, financial turmoil, lies, hiv, aids, fights, wars, earthquakes, destruction, dictators, wildfires, floods, hurricanes, loss of relatives, loss of children, you name it.
ARE YOU ENTERTAINED ?
John 16:1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
Well do u believe in Jesus because he was one person brought to spread the word? to Debbie
If this debate doesn’t stop we will call off the visit
@ AY239mothership,
Cowards ! I knew you would weasel yourself out of this.
Next monday night (the 13th) on discovery channel. Discovery investigates is about the latest mass ufo sightings in Texas and Massachusets.
Supposedly the UN had a meeting in february concerning an ultimatum/deadline they had to tell humanity the truth. I guess they lapsed on the deadline
Nato has a big meeting coming up starting the 13th…surprise surprise.
The shuttle launch was post poned on the 14th because of “technical difficulties with hubble”
The whole f’ing mission was to REPAIR hubble which currently is inoperable. F’ing joke
@ LG
you said “Oh, John, that is an amazing statement to make about the US regarding religion. Not only is it completely over generalized, but I am willing to bet you have NEVER EVEN BEEN TO THE USA.”
You’d lose, I’ve been to California. Ok you’re right it’s over-generalised rubbish. lol. I’m willing to admit when I write something that wrong, unlike a lot of people.
you said “You want to talk about religious indoctrination? The UK still has religion taught in its schools. How do I know this? I live in the UK. If anyone is getting indoctrinated into religion in schools, its people in the UK. The USA has something called separation of church and state; look it up.”
Yes in the UK religion is taught as belief and not fact, and so how is that uncritical, and so not indoctrinating. People in the UK can choose to believe or not, and don’t often have parents forcing their kids to church. I don’t know about US schools, but I would guess that parents take their kids to churches, as their parents took them, and so the cycle of indoctrination continues, as kids don’t often question anything, they take it as face value. Please tell me if this is incorrect, as we often see the effects of this during political speeches even which is unheard of in the UK. This leads to denial of science, as has been documented in many farcical fundamentalist documentaries filmed in the US and shown in the UK.
you said “And, your debating skills took a dive when you used your anti-American ad hominem attack. It’s not only boring, but expected by obviously arrogant people like you.”
I like America and wouldn’t intentionally mean to generalise the whole country. Arguments should always be kept beyond personal attacks. It’s just that it catches on here especially when others start throwing at you for fun to begin with. If you think pointing out flaws and saying things as they are is arrogant, then that’s your mistake. Are we to have political correctness to prevent someone from being called arrogant as well as racist.
you said “By the way, not only do I not believe in God, so save your rhetoric, I don’t believe in the Oct 14 alien visit, either. ”
Good good. lol.
I don’t believe in god or the visit by aliiiieeeeens, but I hope Oct. 14th we know a little more about either of them.
@ John,
KJ: For a person to be able to confidently say, “There is no God,” he’d have to know EVERYTHING that existed EVERYWHERE and no human being fits that bill, nor have they been sighted and photographed. An Atheist is a person who looks through a telescope and tries to explain what he cannot see ?
This topic has gone crazy now. its going to bring youtube and google earth to a stand still… lol
apparently according to a youtube comment its even being downloaded on torrent web sites. the video… lol
@ KJ
you said “I can surely tell you that John has only been the king of the local banana republic in a isolated area of the Atlantic and still does not know how to peel one. Let alone what religion and true faith is all about. He lives in a bubble of himself and is incapable to do a conversation of social conduct in a circle of people in where he is putting himself in isolation by throwing big words and science credo’s where he has never been part of.”
Right, so studying a degree in BSc Astrophysics is living in jungle. Please spare me from more nonsense. Firstly this is not what I would call real social interaction on here, as you don’t even know the identities of those you communicate to, so all ultimate judgements are wasteful. Maybe for you this is all you have, but that doesn’t concern me. Maybe you don’t understand science, but I know I do, and I think you’ll find most other people on here think you’re a total nut-case. Have you notice no ufo believers feel the need to falsely discredit scientific facts, especially those which prove organised religions wrong, whether or not god exists. And they have no problem with anyone being sceptical because they’re reasonable people. Try being one yourself for a change. Actually science accepts alien life as likely, so there’s no need for them to try and discredit that because they’re both on the right track. When you say “John has only been” are you declaring that you think you are better. I would never be so arrogant as you. We are all equally potentially as good regardless of beliefs and such. I understand quite well actually how religions manipulate people and declare false statements to be true, and true faith could just be another term for delusion, so I guess that makes you the expert in that.
Well that really long comment again from KJ a few comments above really puts the nail in the coffin as far as I’m concerned. There’s nothing you can say to reason with someone like him/her. There’s no point trying to put forward another speculative permutation of many unknowns, as his will always be the right one to him. That will most likely lead to his state of denial if aliens visit one day, and don’t expect them to capitulate to your beliefs either.
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I declare KJ formally insane, and request the doctors take him away for his own safety, and others. He did just tell someone to tie a belt around their neck, oh dear, what has these leaps of faith come to. It’s exactly why I said what I did earlier about how it’s more detrimental than helpful to narrow your viewpoint like this. He know’s not open-mindedness, it’s only pure insanity.
Anyway enough for today. I might check back tomorrow.
The only way any of us we know the real truth is on October 14th! Why don’t we just wait and see…
BTW – My friends father was on the USS Roosevelt when they saw a huge craft in the 50’s, they could see the beings inside and everything, the story is incredible but true … he ended up retiring as a top FBI official.
@ John,
“I declare KJ formally insane, and request the doctors take him away for his own safety, and others. He did just tell someone to tie a belt around their neck, oh dear, what has these leaps of faith come to. It’s exactly why I said what I did earlier about how it’s more detrimental than helpful to narrow your viewpoint like this. He know’s not open-mindedness, it’s only pure insanity.”
John, John, You are losing it now. Seriously. Take one step back from this all and start observing what you are now spouting again. I think you are running on your last energy trip again.
1. FYI, I never said, “tie it around your neck”, I said “tie it around your head and really tight” (I think you need a new prescription from your optometrist or your opthalomist) Head means head, not neck. Stop twisting things as your trump card. I said it for the sake of Leo that he has to get real with that nonsicial suggestion to Andrew. He is completely nuts of using a belt to generate energy. What a foolishness. It is rather superstition or even occult to apply such a thing and suggest that to a 18 year old. Poor Andrew. Again this is suggestive and deceptive. Why don’t they sell these gadgets at Wallmart, Tesco’s, and Asda since everyone is always tired. Go on tell me, John. So again I pass it off as bull.
2. You all of a sudden have a degree in Psychology and Psychiatry now ? Or did you do a course online on how to manipulate a conversation to your own benefit and call on the grace of others how you can turn them against me and others as I have seen you doing in former posts which were not mine, because you are such a weak and pathetic orator on yourself of providing ANY evidence and of what you are doing ? It is easier for you to say to another person they have a screw loose instead of being able make peace or comprimise with someone, is it not ? Not one of your best abilities and qualities, John.
Anybody can see that how you clearly fail in such a way, but likely are too afraid to admit it. That is not my fault, but your own lack of looking behind what is now really true outside there and about looking on the inside out, John. You failed like a stone that sinks straight from a train that is motion from A to B with out the brakes applied. And your train of thought has not clearly derailed from it’s tracks. For the onlooker it was going into a curve downwards, for the one who is sitting on the train it goes straight down. This is your problem, John. You are not willing and incapable to look at certain possibilities from different angles what others might think. Which I have explained to you in former posts. You are “stuck”. Only your view counts. You really think so, eh ? Lighten up, John. Even the teacher can learn from the student if that is the case. Is your pride to big for that ? And you are certainly not Russell Crowe who is playing in a Beautiful Mind movie as being John Forbes Nash Jr. “The Only Thing Greater Than the Power of the Mind is the Courage of the Heart”. It is the place where you cower down in the ability of your education and fictitious abilities as far as I can see. This will not do John, for me. If you can deceive others with it, it will not work with me. You can take it or leave it. If you are incapable to come of your high horse, then start thinking how you can feed the horse sugar-lumps instead of spouting nightmarish incoherences towards your onlookers and the one’s you are discussing a matter with.
Thirdly, I am not interested in your schooling or education, as if that is the last straw you had to grasp upon to prove and convince me that you are a stable personality, which I am starting to doubt now. Aka your IQ. I am more interested in your EQ. Your “Emotional Quotient” or the lack of it. You are definitely not showing it. It could be that like your ASD ((Autistic Spectrum Disorder) is kicking in again as I described before regarding Joe. You two are much alike.
The sentence construction that you have is clearly geared upon trashing someone else that is taking you on, on your own astroturf convictions. It would be time that you surrender your aggression and babblings against anyone who can stand up to you. This is needed. You know why ? It only shows the worst side of you, not your best side, simply you are incapable to bring it to a good end. So back to the drawing board, John, I know you can do better then that. All that you do is denting in great minds with your sentence construction against your opponent. You are really bad in good skirmishing. Instead of it all, you are walking away from it all as you usually do, because that is in your psyche. Because you must and shall win. After all who dares to talk up to you huh ? Well, I will. John I have no problem taking you on. Again you are not taking responsibilities for your actions and misfortunes, you keep sowing here and the abuse of others.
One look on you and me analyzing you in this whole conversation has proven me that you are suffering long time from these things (delusions) that you so eagerly call upon and believe in, is the group of scientists. (Another rerun of repetitive behavior and word selection which I have seen before) For the onlooker: Scientist, in the broadest sense, refers to any person that engages in a systematic activity to acquire knowledge or an individual that engages in such practices and traditions that are linked to schools of thought or philosophy. People like Rene Descartes and Blaise Pascal. I have nothing against scientists in general. My problem is with so called scientists like you, who think they have seen it all and put it all together here as well and anywhere else. Give it up, John, it is absolute not working in any way or direction. You don’t have the answers either, pertaining life and all it’s intrinsic qualities. You are just hanging out there like every other nitwit that thinks that science is the only way to go. Open your mind more, John, rather open your stoney cold heart that you are putting up here all the time. Read my chat lips. You have not arrived yet.
You better come off that pedestal, dude. Because science can just ruin a lot of things for others who want to practice their Faith. Not as an experiment, but as a lifestyle. You seem to have big problems with that. I certainly believe it is something that you don’t even want to try, because you think it is not putting the butter on your bread.
Instead you move like other scientists how they can twist and ruin things that God has made Perfect from the beginning. Like Dolly the Sheep with arthritis, etc etc. Long live the scientists who want to do a stab at God’s throne, infinite abilities and bring us in more trouble then we already are. Against such scientists I have problems. You seem one of them. The arrogant one’s who think that everything hangs on their verdict and abilities of intellect.
You can study until you weigh and ounce John, but if I see cancer, aids, serious sores being healed in a few days without medication, but by prayer and the power of God. Sometimes even faster and even instantly, which you vehemently deny as a protégé atheist or whatever you are. This is without chemical suppressing drugs that sit in people’s lymphatic systems like poison. I am telling you John, It takes a lot of faith to be an Atheist or living in denial that God does not exist. Psalms 92:6 A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this. Psalms 14:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. You are running after your education and other things you have learned. Getting us where ? You seem to try to convince me that is the way ? You gotta be kidding me, John. I am not against professors, doctors or surgeons. But I am against you, who is here to tear down everyone in the wake of your “calling” being a Astrophysicist. Meaning ?
For the onlooker here : Astrophysicists are University professors ( We have to see if John is one and what are his credentials, if he has any)- teaching and research (not necessarily in that order). Most of them study and teach and write about the physics of stars, from dwarf stars to supergiants to supernovae to neutron stars to black holes, as well as star-forming regions, and so on.
Claps for John. Well done John. And now ? Does that mean John, you can give us the description of a Supernova in detail. And can you tell us how all the planets are hung up in the sky and why and what the reason is they are on their place as they are ? Of-course you can, don’t you. And now what ? What can we do with that practically ? Mr. Einstein
I have read the book of “The Theory of Relativity”, John and guess what John, actually I have it laying down on the left of my desk, right now. Can you take me through the essence of it so we all can understand why are we here ? You can start with “Physical Meaning of Geometrical Propositions”. Chapter 1.
And stop passing me off, as if I am dumb.Far be from it. Get over it, with your pathetic accusations and stand up as if you are professor who can teach us something, which you never did. Now you go ahead and explain, what I have put forward as something you can shine on here. So we can all see your brilliance in your Astroturfing. Pardon me, Astrophysics.
Latest ..some guy on Yahoo questions thinks they are coming to pick up bits of a spacecraft that crashed 4,000 years ago!
You know what KJ I don’t care about you or your nonsense, how’s that for you? and you even keep writing it… shows how stupid you are.
KJ, ya don’t understand Astronomy if you thing it’s all done by direct observation. In fact we use computer analysis of measurements by sensitive devices in non-visible parts of the spectrum. And this gives us much more knowledge than your garbage. Hehe.
I’m a student in Astrophysics, not a lecturer. But I talk to lecturers and professors and they are knowledgable people who I relate to, unlike you.
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kj said “Does that mean John, you can give us the description of a Supernova in detail. And can you tell us how all the planets are hung up in the sky and why and what the reason is they are on their place as they are ? Of-course you can, don’t you. And now what ? What can we do with that practically ? Mr. Einstein”
We can predict locations of planets for observation and for planetary probes to be sent to those locations. Duh! you are more stupid than I could ever predict.
Why don’t you read the book on your desk. My first year modules covered all this in week 1.
Note to others: I don’t mean to take the micky out of this idiot but he deserves it all.
omg there’s even more nonsense from kj I’ve noticed even just from a glance at his silly comments.
he said “Astrophysicists are University professors”
haha no anyone with a degree in astrophysics is an astrophysicist. And if he/she works in that area he is a researcher. And if he/she lectures at uni they’re a lecturer. And if he/she writes lots of papers in that area they become a professor after gaining the expertise. He thinks more rubbish than anyone could ever imagine.
or rather I mean someone is qualified to be an astrophysicist after gaining a degree in astrophysics. Sorry for not wording that properly.
I wait more rubbish to discredit. TYVM matey.
John,
You don’t have to relate to me. No problem. That was not not the question. It just shows you can’t take on a challenge. Which is sad, because it would only give you credit of your reality being here.
And again you are going in your repetitive arguments that I am stupid ? Why do you go like this as a perpetual mobile over in here like that ? You get a chance to take the platform and you are not taking it. You have platform anxiety ? Your excuses are weak and pathetic and not flying any kite with me.
John,
Where are your theses, can I have a look at them ?
I just showed your arguments are weak in a few lines without even bothering to counter all of your garbage, and you think that is not worthy. Please go on your bike and get a life.
KJ said “Your excuses are weak and pathetic and not flying any kite with me. ”
I’m not bothered about, this is for other educated people to read, and to convey how pathetic you have become.
Haha you are asking for a thesis. You don’t write thesis in BSc Physics & Astrophysics. You learn from lectures and answers exams. PhD level is writing thesis’, and I haven’t done that yet because I’m doing my BSc degree first.
It shows has silly your arguments have become if you resort to being like this. To everyone else, search on the internet for universities in the UK and you will see what I said was accurate. I’m not claiming I’m better than anyone, I think anyone from cleaner to physicist is worthy of absolute respect. It’s just I’m showing you how low someone like KJ is, and how he stoops to lies to try and further his campaign of absolute nonsense.
John,
I don’t have a bike, however I have a car. Relax you get all wound up man.
“on yer’ bike” is a saying in the UK which you should take notice of. And means “get lost”. So go do that for the sake of your of not embarassing yourself, as you don’t have the calibre for any type of argument. I won, and it’s quite obvious. Not that that matters as all that matter on this board is showing you a fraud at this point, and I’ve done just that, as well as showing you compeletely ignorant to everything I’ve said to you.
John,
Correction. Bachelors of Science write Theses, you are just telling me you don’t have any.
Hmmmm,
It is not necessary for all majors and / or for all universities for a bachelor of science to write a thesis, but that was not the case with University of Science and Technology in the UK.
So Duh !
John,
A fraud huh ? So what have I defrauded ? Come again, refresh what I have defrauded you off ?
can you not even see KJ everyone else has left you here and not even bothering to counter your rubbish. That’s because you’re not worth the time to them. I’m only here for the sake of a bit of laughter & giggles before bed.
John,
Oh I see. You are here for laughter and giggles right. Sound more like you are getting nervous you are uncovered being student and not a teacher as you referred in a former post. Now who is lying now huh ?
You still keep at it. You do projects and exams in 2nd and 3rd years. Laboratory reports and computer programming. UK universities are top universities in the world, so your argument is to slag off the entire higher education system in a great country. You’re even insulting the USA’s higher education system. And both are relative to each other. I’m not going to link to university pages, as I’m sure others can do the same here and find them themselves. If they wish to just believe KJ then they can do, it’s not my prerogative. But I can absolutely say a thesis is PhD level after you have completed 3 or 4 years of exams at BSc or MSci level Physics.
How come you know nothing about science? It’s because you don’t care to check any of it out??? That’s what I’ve been saying all along. You are a nuisance to yourself and whoever else listens to you.
John,
Seriously, you are coming over like a big fat American Bullfrog all stuffed up with bull. The only thing you can do is croaking and no cigar.
I did not say I was a teacher. Please refer a link to where I claimed I was apart from an analogy. I don’t think you can, please prove me otherwise.
you’re a fraud because you’re claiming unproven speculation as fact, and you’re falsely accusing people of things they didn’t claim responsiblity for. And you’re trying to gain points for it all by being a ****
is that admitting you lost any shred of credibility that remains with you in any of your readers?!
It looks that way. I can’t be bothered to insult you as you’re not worth the key presses!
John,
John, John, your BP is getting too high in the systolic range, relax man. Your are short-circuiting again. Careful with that hypertension. Sometimes it creates strokes and TIA’s. I would not recommend that.
I will tell you go get yourself an education because it’s worth it, and I’ve proved that point a thousand times here!
Oh sorry, I forgot you would prefer to preach rather than learn. Learning is the only way to aquire knowledge. Preaching uneducated **** gains you nothing from anyone who wants to learn, and attain new knowledge in the frontiers of science.
If it is not worth the keypresses you can always sleep on your keyboard, tomorrow you can have ertyuiopdfghjkl on your forehead. Show them to your Uni mates and tell them it is KJ’s fault.
Leaves you an abacus so you don’t lose your count.
KJ is now relating to things unrelated to the discusion, including silly personal remarks. Just to show you how he operates if you’re not paying attention.
Really are you a doctor KJ? I didn’t know you could examine patients thru’ the interent, this psychic connections must be getting good nowadays. Sarcasm implied of course.
What, are you a doctor? a psychic? a religious preacher? a faith healer? or a psycho. You’ve claimed to be all of those by writing your giggle words. I declare you a nut-case!
actually it’s induction week and there’s no lectures tomorrow, otherwise I’d be asleep now rather than listening to your prattle. Do you not realise how much fun this is debunking all of your silly remarks. Not as much fun as it was tonight in the pub with my mates, not that you’d know about that.
an abacus you say? did you go to school in the 50’s or 60’s. How old are you? It’s typical of people your age to be clueless when it comes to being educated, so I wouldn’t be surprised.
not that that’s your fault, it’s just you didn’t have the same level of teaching we have now. Maybe you should listen to younger people more. And your gallant trips worldwide has shown you nothing by the sounds of it. Learning it the key to success and so enlightenment if it’s even possible, and all this assention stuff involving aliens will be attained by gaining knowledge towards it, rather than preaching fiction.
Is this not the website where you can channel everything ? Oh wait, I forgot it is you who is thinking that all that can be done in that way. Only one thing, It does not bake the cake, nor makes it the pie in the sky. Get over it. Cya in the lunatic asylum with prozac, paxil, xeorxat and benzo’s prescribed and a padded cell.
Measures up your temperature, yes, boiling point has reached several times. Tsk, tsk, you really need to do something about this temper, dude. Can break you up in later life. Heart attacks and so. Relax man.
kj said “Is this not the website where you can channel everything ? Oh wait, I forgot it is you who is thinking that all that can be done in that way. Only one thing, It does not bake the cake, nor makes it the pie in the sky.”
Science expands knowledge in the same way techniques are expanded. You can’t make up a technique and call it knowledge until you can prove it works properly, and so research into things like telepathy have to be verified before publication. It’s just how it works in the real world.
you said “Get over it. Cya in the lunatic asylum with prozac, paxil, xeorxat and benzo’s prescribed and a padded cell.”
So you admit you will be later admitted to a lunatic asylum. Haha, I may be there as a doctor performing experiments as part of my PhD thesis. You seem to know all the drugs that go with insanity, are you already prescribed on them? I would say get over it, but I don’t think you will. It’s a shame really that you wish to continue to insult someone on the basis of not believing in the same thing as you.
John,
I have told you before in another post, you don’t have to believe like I do. It is your call, your choice. It really is not a bad choice. You have nothing to lose. But then again you have shown to be very stubborn. I think you were as a child like that. Maybe you had to prove yourself to others that you can be taken seriously ? So you decided to go study and gorf yourself full with knowledge that does not help you then being arrogant and not being relaxed about things around you. You are very likely motivated by getting a high paid job so you can show off what you have achieved in life. You really think that is all what this live is all about ?
Again I have to point out that there are others who need help and you are not even seeing it. You only think about self and self-realisation. Mind you I have no problem you studying, but your pride and your stubbornness. Not willing to wash other peoples feet and being humble. That is something that I can look up to.
Shakes his head. You really think you can go on like this do you ? I can tell you, you are heading for disaster.
And just to verify before kj makes a nonsense remark about something, even though he may already have done. That is that you can do a PhD in a different field, for example “Forensic physics” at PhD even though you’ve done Astrophysics at BSc level. That’s why I made the analogy to him in an asylum and stuff, and I think you know where that goes.
KJ, you get mixed up between temper and pointing out plain facts, that is the sign of someone out of touch with reality. It’s you coming up with every angle of argument in the book and being defeated, so who’s being angry. You or me? I’m happy just to defend myself, I don’t even need to go on the offensive to discredit you, so where’s the anger involved? Frustration at your ineptitude definitely. But what do you expect, you’re useless at everything you do or say.
Show me something worthy of talking about please.
Time for my bedtime. Go to bed, John. It’s late. Your body needs to recuperate and repair it-selves. Very important. Stop raking off your head how you can defeat me. It will never happen.
Haha like someone said earlier this is even more silly than the McCain remarks in presidential debates and KJ is the attacker in the same was as McCain, and he doesn’t even realise it. How many comments will this get to ‘300′ ‘500′ ‘1000!’. It shows how necessary it is for someone who strongly believes to put his point across so much that it involves insulting someone directly & indirectly.
you said “I have told you before in another post, you don’t have to believe like I do. It is your call, your choice. It really is not a bad choice. You have nothing to lose.”
Of course but now that’s another matter as you feel the need to insult someone who disagrees and so you’ve lost crediblity. Here you say I have nothing to lose but later say I’m heading for disaster. Do you even remember what you type. Hehe. And I don’t have basic beliefs, everything is much more complex than you or I can imagine, so don’t try and think you can imagine it as anything more than a dream. Anything can be true as far as I’m concerned… god, aliens, we will see. My opinion is aliens exist, but is that only, an opinion. I don’t go spouting it like you do about your so called knowledge of god which has no basis at all.
“But then again you have shown to be very stubborn. I think you were as a child like that. Maybe you had to prove yourself to others that you can be taken seriously ?”
Stubborn, because I don’t agree with you. Now that’s shallow. Actually people take me seriously because I talk sense and everyone I know as friend, family, girlfriends, have all respected me quite well. I don’t get pally with extremists like yourself, so I don’t expect you to have a normal reaction to me.
“So you decided to go study and gorf yourself full with knowledge that does not help you then being arrogant and not being relaxed about things around you.”
How is learning arrogant. You are such a fool. Not learning and then claiming you know better is arrogant and ignorant.
“You are very likely motivated by getting a high paid job so you can show off what you have achieved in life. You really think that is all what this live is all about ?”
No, I’d be more interested in major scientific discoveries such as discovering life on other planets than winning the lottery or getting a 100k a year job. Money is what we need to live on, so of course we need to earn some, whether by honest means like I will, or fraudalent means like most psychic readers have proven to be.
“Again I have to point out that there are others who need help and you are not even seeing it. You only think about self and self-realisation.”
You don’t see how science helps the majority?! Well it helps more than preaching garbage that’s for sure… you’re a joke.
“Mind you I have no problem you studying, but your pride and your stubbornness. Not willing to wash other peoples feet and being humble. That is something that I can look up to.”
You look up to it, but you don’t like the outcome of education and having a fun & enjoyable life. Shall we all be depressed and hate our selves instead! We are all different, you help the needy if you wish directly, I’m sure I will benefit in other ways. That’s just how the world works.
“Shakes his head. You really think you can go on like this do you ? I can tell you, you are heading for disaster.”
Yes I’m happy and I’m doing well, seems you’re not. I wish you well, but don’t wish you to keep talking nonsense.
kj said “Time for my bedtime. Go to bed, John. It’s late. Your body needs to recuperate and repair it-selves. Very important. Stop raking off your head how you can defeat me. It will never happen. ”
You’ve already lost a morality, logical, spiritual and any other sense of argumentual procedures a long time ago. These last few posts just proved how much you are behind the rest of us.
Good advice about bedtime but I have time to sleep when I’m older. When I’m young it’s time to have fun. House party all night is getting going now? Goodnite you foolish person.
In the words of silly McCain “that one over there” I suppose if people like him could possibly be president then what chance does the rest of average humanity have?!!!
And another point just before I leave for tonight is all this knowledge you have accumulated on your visits worldwide to many countries. You imply it voids scientific knowledge, and you somehow have attained a higher spiritual power or presence. For anyone to even start to consider this you need to give us an explanation of how this came about, and what you have learnt specifically, and not some generalised mumbo-jumbo about this and that. Do you understand this??? If you have attained enlightenment as you suggest then you should be able to explain yourself better than you do, and should even be able to write a book about your experiences which can get published, and recognised by someone else who has good recognition in a credible research area. That’s the challenge to you, and to you alone on here, as you’re the one making the huge claims. I don’t ask the same of ufo witnesses as they aren’t the type of people to try and brain-wash people, as I’m even a ufo witness myself, and hopefully I will give credibility one day to this subject area, and not be just another ordinary witness. But I’m not ashamed to be an ordinary witness, there’s maybe millions of them, and they don’t deserve any of your rubbish which has been directed at them! Most ufo witnesses are able to accept sceptical approaches, the same is not said for people who believe in god.
Can we for one day put our differences behind us and come together as the “Human Race” and just state our ideas and beliefs and just Listen to them and not fight over whom is right and whom is wrong? What do we gain by finding out, I’m right and your wrong? Nothing comes from it but the differences thats separated our planet from the beginning. So people if someone says your beliefs and thoughts are wrong, just ignore it, because you know inside that there is some truth and reasoning into why you have these beliefs in the first place. Don’t let peoples comments spark you to argue with another. Acknowledge an opinion and if you don’t agree the make questions not hate. We’ll never Evolve as a whole unless we can look pass these “Titles” we give ourselves and see each person as a Family of the same planet. Love/Learn/Live
KJ GO AWAY !!! Leave our discussion to ones who care about the subject at hand. If u r such a wonderful Christian as you profess you better look in the good book and see what the bible tells you on behavior and turning the other cheek. People like you give Christianity a VERY bad name and turns off others who might have seeked the truth but feared becoming a monster such as yourself.
Do the Christian community a favor and go slink off into a cave and let the love and light of His message come from loving humans and not from a person full of hate and rage.
As long as the Aliens bring an interglactic space bong and pick up john and kj and make them pack cones for one another.
When the reptiods come screaming out of the pandimensional tear in the sky, all guns blazing and eat your childerens, don’t say I never warned you. BUILD YOUR LIZARD FORTS NOW! Or run … while you still got legs.
@ Motherpann,
Why are you so egoistic ? Are you so unstable in your convictions that you are not able stand your stance of who and what you really are ? I am not a Christian. Let me clarify, I am a follower of Jesus Christ and I walk in HIs footsteps. Jesus Christ addressed pharisees and sadducees like you. Who are on the outside clean, but inside they are filthy with evil, deception and other issues.
You call me full of hate and rage right. How about your selfish egoistical flamboyant remarks you make to people who are strong and convicted in their convictions. I see you doing that all the time towards people in your daily life. It must be a problem you have with authority. You live in a dreamworld of fantasies and make up stories as you have brought forward on this forum. Your life is filled with it. There is no room for the reality of life. You behave you are walking on cloud nine as a heroin addict who I have seen many times and have taken in my ministry and houses. Exactly same way.
And about monster, I sincerely thinking about a sequel of Monsters Inc. II so you can drift away from your reality again on the couch when you have your next heroin trip. (Somebody has to tell you reality.)
You want me go in a cave ? Why, because you are so attracted to a Neanderthal lifestyle ? Your love and light exists of dreamworlds that never were and never have been. Actually the whole foundation of your life is based upon that of that madness that keeps you wondering if you would be the last martian from planet X. This is where society is wasting their money and energy upon and squander it and let people in the third world take up the bill of your selfish egoistic lifestyle. The abortionists, hiv spreaders, the murderers, etc. etc. and people like you.
The standard sentence “People like you give Christianity a VERY bad name” I have seen many times on forums and websites thrown at people for the sake of guilt spreading and pretend that the issuer lives a better life we all can take an example of. How about stop attacking christians spreading the gospel as they are called for. Yet you have to have a go at them with a stick because you feel you have transcended the plane of illusions and delusions.
How misled you are ! You are just as rotten to the core like anyone else is, stop pretending with your filthy rags that you are wearing as a personallity. You are not 1 hair better then anyone.
Let me show you from the “Good book” as you call it and I would say Apply to yourself, hypocrite.
Luke 11:34 The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.
Mind you, your eyes are darkened, darkened with your fantasies and flyaway idiocy.
Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Romans 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
And this one is for you to ponder upon.
Romans 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
As if you are in the position to judge ? As if you are better then the first person you bump into today.
Stop pretending that you have arrived, Motherpann, because you have not and you never will in this lifetime. Neither of us have. If can’t handle the heat, then don’t pass along here when you are confronted with the truth that stares you right in the face.
And one thing ? We have to talk about the things at hand ? What things ? Do you see any ? I have not. Get off your crazy merry-go-round fantasies. I see you are a Star Trek maniac. Surely it is starting to work on your unconsciousness such movies. Your mother should have prevented you from watching such dangerous influences. You can now clearly see that you can’t even see the difference on how to pay your bills and how to involve an intergalactic fantasy maniac what only exists in your brainwaves and many others. All of you have failed to give me credibility of your convictions in outer-space existence. Then third hand me down stories and pictures, videos. As long you can be busy with something is it not ?
@ John,
John says: “You’ve already lost a morality, logical, spiritual and any other sense of argumentual procedures a long time ago. These last few posts just proved how much you are behind the rest of us.”
What position do you clothe that you are into in where you can decide what my morality, logic and spirituality is ? None, Niente, Niks, Nada. That counts the same for Motherpann.
John says: “Good advice about bedtime but I have time to sleep when I’m older. When I’m young it’s time to have fun. House party all night is getting going now? Goodnite you foolish person.”
Is that were you fill your mind up with crack, cocaine, and alcoholic beverages, so you can rave upon the clouds of fogginess and when your are done you come in here spouting your hallucinations you have contracted over there ?
May I tell you something from my past, how impressed I am by people who go to House party folly ? Some of them who I knew at that time got really damaged in their minds and could not even drive their mopeds anymore and crashed on the street to be disabled and disturbed for the rest of their llves. And no John, it was not me. They lived under me in the flat I used to live. They harrassed me every single night with their hellish house music. Not to pester me, but because they had no life, while I had to go work in the morning. That is what I meant with, you are heading for disaster. I knew you were a person like that from the beginning after I saw you writing on this forum. You are challenging life and life will catch up with you one day and then you will remember my words I have warned you. Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
John says: In the words of silly McCain “that one over there” I suppose if people like him could possibly be president then what chance does the rest of average humanity have?!!!
John, I am not McCaine. I have no affiliations with anyone of them. Get real, I am KJ and I am over here. Pay attention ! Put your focus at the drawingboard. Your mind is drifting again. As usual. I think you have an attention span like gerbil and a memory of a goldfish. I see your life already crashing, who is going to catch you up. You can’t blame me, I have warned you.
And I am still waiting for those aliens to show up, they seem to be stuck between revolving doors somewhere in the galaxy. Hence the delay. Can you tell them I have been waiting for them all along and if they can get me some Galactic Federation of Light Tea and Cookies.
This is a prophecy and it shall go as it is proclaimed for the United States, UK, Europe and Asia and other countries.
For those of you who have followed this ministry, you have heard me say
more than once during the past eight years that from 2009 or 2010,
things will become very difficult.
I have been praying and hoping that what I am about to write may be
averted. However, I am now concerned that without prophetic people
speaking up, we will not play our redemptive part in bringing change for
the good.
“FIVE ELEMENTS OF THE BREWING PERFECT STORM”
As in the movie The Perfect Storm, the storm I see coming to the United
States other countries and the world is a combination of more than one element, and when the elements
unite, the storm becomes exponentially more dangerous.
However, unlike the movie, this storm is not just a storm of merging
weather patterns. This storm is worse; it involves five different
elements: religion, politics, economics, war and geo-physical events.
On one end this is nothing new, but on the other hand this will be played off on
the world scene that is now created.
At times these five elements will be so intertwined that it will be
difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish which events are driving a
particular manifestation of the storm. Massive problems in these five
areas will come often, or in combination, and sometimes repeatedly.
Each element has potentially several events that will have national and
international ripple effects. Some ripples will be worse than others,
depending on where you live and how you make your living.
Different areas of the United States and the world will experience different
severities. Some will experience more economic elements, others more
geo-physical elements; some will experience all elements. Remember, it
is the combination and the rapidity that will make the storm
problematic.
Also, this does not mean all five elements will hit at the most
devastating levels. For example, on a scale of 1–10 with 10 being the
worst, one element may strike at a six while another strikes at an
eight.
It is the particular combinations of elements — the proximity of each
element as well as the intensity of each element — that will make this
storm so difficult and seem to last so long. This storm will not be
short-lived; it will come in waves, one after another.
“WHY IS THE STORM COMING?”
This storm is coming because the Church (the Body of Christ) is no
longer the backbone of this nation. From our inception, the Christian
faith has been the plumb line of decisions made at all levels of life.
The Christian founding of this nation is what makes it different from
every other nation, other than perhaps Israel. Other nations may have
become Christian in their focus, but none were initially formed with
Christianity as the core of its DNA.
The Church is to make known God’s manifold wisdom to the world and the
powers of the air (Ephesians 2:2).
This demonstration to the heavens is not accomplished by speaking to
those powers but through righteous living. How we live opens or closes
doors for Satan to legally afflict us and even rule over us via leaders
who do not know the ways of God.
From Adam and Eve through today, the actions of humankind have given
room for the enemy to strike and attack us. The only legal way the enemy
has access to us is when the hand of God lifts from us, resulting in a
space between Him and us. This space increases as we distance ourselves
from Him and His ways.
Anytime there is an increased distance between God and humanity, it
leaves room for attack to come and for principalities and powers of the
air (rulers of darkness) to take up residence. The longer dark powers
reside over an area, the more the people begin to call right wrong and
wrong right.
Here in the United States, UK, Europe and other countries, leaders arise from the people; in other
words, as the people believe and think, so do the leaders who rise from
their ranks. Eventually, the lines between right and wrong, as well as
the holy and profane, become blurred.
The way to God through Jesus and the Cross is no longer seen as an
absolute. In fact, absolutes become touted as “intolerance” first in the
world and then even within the Church. Yes, there are exceptions to this
thinking within the Church, but through compromise, the absolutes of
Heaven and eternity are clearly evaporating.
“GOD CAN FASHION A DISASTER”
We are living in the days of Ezekiel and Jeremiah, who prophesied that
God can bring disaster on a nation if that nation continually chooses to
walk according to its own plans. God spoke this to Jeremiah:
“The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to
pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, if that nation against whom I
have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I
thought to bring upon it.
And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to
build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not
obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said
I would benefit it.
“Now therefore, speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of
Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says the LORD:
“Behold, I am fashioning a disaster and devising a plan against you.
Return now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your
doings good.”
And they said, “… We will walk according to our own plans, and we will
every one obey the dictates of his evil heart.” — Jeremiah 18:7–12
“WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE COMING?”
What are some of the things/consequences that will come? In time, water
will be more expensive than oil, and cities will evacuate thousands
because there is not enough water to meet their needs.
(As Amos 4:7 says, “I made it rain on one city, I withheld rain from
another city.”)
Earthquakes will strike not only coastal areas but devastate the Midwest
as well. Israel will bomb Iran, and anti-Semitism will escalate as fuel
costs soar.
A dirty bomb will explode in a coastal city. There will be thunderstorms
with huge hail, 24 inches of rain in 24 hours, three feet of snow in six
hours, record-setting tornadoes with winds of more than 350 miles per
hour and tornadoes in unusual places.
There will be an unexpected blight that will hit various hybrid seed
crops and weaken the yield. In addition, drought and devastation from
storms will dramatically cut into various harvests and the national food
storage will deplete.
“Now therefore, speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of
Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Behold, I am fashioning a
disaster and devising a plan against you. Return now every one from his
evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.”’” — Jeremiah 18:11
“FOUR THINGS THE CHURCH MUST DO”
First, the Church must return to knowing God and His ways rather than
just knowing about God. We have replaced power with programs, revelation
with administration and the Father’s heart with organizational skills.
Second, the Church must learn how to contend for the faith again. We are
weak, and we fall away so easily when crisis is not at hand. We have not
been tested, and we have lost our resolve. We understand little of the
adversary’s plans. We do not know how to debate our faith without
becoming angry, and thus we have so few strong, clear, godly voices in
political arenas.
We have lost our witness — the witness that convicts others and strongly
testifies that God is still God and is very, very real. We have lost the
witness that demonstrates that God is a personal God in a very
impersonal world, the witness that says, “What I do proves God exists.”
Third, the Church must return to the love of God’s Word and the belief
that it is infallible and inerrant. This would include the conviction,
understanding and knowledge that God is absolute, and there is only one
way to know Him: through Jesus the Messiah.
We need a new revelation that God’s power is unlimited, His knowledge is
unending, His presence is with us always and He never changes. We have
made God far too small, and our lives prove it.
Fourth, we will need to declare sacred and solemn assemblies of
repentance and corporate fasting in many parts of this nation — a time
set aside for rending our hearts before God.
“Now, therefore,” says the LORD, “Turn to Me with all your heart, With
fasting, with weeping, and with mourning.” So rend your heart, and not
your garments;
Return to the LORD your God, For He is gracious and merciful, Slow to
anger, and of great kindness; And He relents from doing harm. Who knows
if He will turn and relent, And leave a blessing behind Him — A grain
offering and a drink offering For the LORD your God?
Blow the trumpet in Zion, Consecrate a fast, Call a sacred assembly;
Gather the people, Sanctify the congregation, Assemble the elders,
Gather the children and nursing babes; Let the bridegroom go out from
his chamber, And the bride from her dressing room. Let the priests, who
minister to the LORD, Weep between the porch and the altar; Let them
say, “Spare Your people, O LORD.” — Joel 2:12–17
“CRISIS IS THE FRUIT OF FOLLOWING THE WRONG GOD”
God allows calamities to happen in order to draw us to Himself. What
does that mean? It means that God allows us to reap the fruit of that
which we serve.
Walking in God’s ways brings blessings and fullness of life, while
walking in the ways of the “god of this world” will bring the fruit of
the god of this world: decay, destruction, deterioration and death. We
make our choice, then the choice makes us. Sadly, we are developing a
history of wrong choices.
Throughout Scripture, when crises hit the people of God, they turned
their hearts to Him, and He heard and took action.
Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to
you. And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all
your heart. — Jeremiah 29:12–13
May the people of the United States seek the Lord … and find Him.
Remember, we still have the promise that if we turn from our wicked
ways, God will heal our land.
his chamber, And the bride from her dressing room. Let the priests, who
minister to the LORD, Weep between the porch and the altar; Let them
say, “Spare Your people, O LORD.” — Joel 2:12–17
“CRISIS IS THE FRUIT OF FOLLOWING THE WRONG GOD”
God allows calamities to happen in order to draw us to Himself. What
does that mean? It means that God allows us to reap the fruit of that
which we serve.
Walking in God’s ways brings blessings and fullness of life, while
walking in the ways of the “god of this world” will bring the fruit of
the god of this world: decay, destruction, deterioration and death. We
make our choice, then the choice makes us. Sadly, we are developing a
history of wrong choices.
Throughout Scripture, when crises hit the people of God, they turned
their hearts to Him, and He heard and took action.
Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to
you. And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all
your heart. — Jeremiah 29:12–13
May the people of the United States, UK, Europe and the world seek the Lord … and find Him.
Remember, we still have the promise that if we turn from our wicked
ways, God will heal our land.
@ KJ
Everyone knows that the only thing religion ever brought us is war and conflict.
The ancient Greeks are the perfect example. We lost thousands of years of scientific advancement because of religion.
All the ‘Godly works’ stuff you talk about is validated not by mysticism but rather logic. Ethical theories you should have studied in college Kant, Hobbes, Mill, etc…. give us much better answers on how to live moral/ethical lives than any religious texts.
If religion never existed we would be a united people.
The Reptilians have been farming humans since before bible times.
All the worlds religeons are reptilian inspired to control and farm humans.
Now some other species is going to show up in a big spacecraft and blow the reptilians cover.
You can pray to your reptilian gods all you want, It won’t help.
Humans are a wonderful species—wake up!
Let us not forget the enemy seeks to “divide” us and that our ability to learn is also the greatest tool used to manipulate us. Science is becoming a new religion(or as i call it mind prison).How so? Well, I can prove through science that the sky is blue right? But all that does is show 1 of limitless possibilities.As we know the sky is not really blue and can be many different colors. My point being, thats all science does is pin point one possibility then forget about the rest and lets get on with the nobel peace prizes and historical fame! Do you think Einstein figured out all his theories on his own? No he was singled out and pushed in the direction of science by the system. I have had personal experience with this “push” look it up its called S.I.P. and it operates all over the world. They seek out gifted minded kids and push science on them. Not that we aren’t learning more through science or benefiting from it but just don’t start quoting it like its a religion remember its government funded and takes lots of money and so they only fund what fits their agenda of control.Science is the perfect weapon against the growing interest people have in the truth. Don’t forget religion bought them plenty of time to figure this all out and by teaching us knowledge is evil they have stunted mental growth at least a thousand years!!! And back to possibility. Why would they pump more money into the other possibilities when its easier to reach one conclusion and shut the book, the check book!!! my point being all this crap is the same science religion you name it. It gives you the security of knowing it all with the luxury of never really knowing
kj said “John, I am not McCaine. ”
An analogy is not saying you are that person. How many more times are you going to fall over your own feet in a conversation on here.
kj said “What position do you clothe that you are into in where you can decide what my morality, logic and spirituality is ? None, Niente, Niks, Nada. That counts the same for Motherpann.”
Same for you, as it was you who decided who is right and wrong in the first place. Therefore you were faulty to begin with.
kj said “Is that were you fill your mind up with crack, cocaine, and alcoholic beverages, so you can rave upon the clouds of fogginess and when your are done you come in here spouting your hallucinations you have contracted over there ?”
So a few beers in my flat with friends round, good music on, and dancing with girls is not what you call fun. Where’s the drugs mate? And I don’t mean the one’s you take. A note to others – this freak called kj threw that insult first and deserves everything he is getting now.
“May I tell you something from my past, how impressed I am by people who go to House party folly ? Some of them who I knew at that time got really damaged in their minds and could not even drive their mopeds anymore and crashed on the street to be disabled and disturbed for the rest of their llves.”
That’s got absolutely nothing to do with me. Either you hate people who want a bit of fun in between work or when they have time off work or lectures or you just don’t understand the 20’s something culture in the UK properly. Most people don’t do drugs. When you see programmes about crime on tv, they are all leg-less folk drunk or on drugs, but they’re going to show the sensible people now are they, as it’s not good entertainment.
“And no John, it was not me. They lived under me in the flat I used to live. They harrassed me every single night with their hellish house music. Not to pester me, but because they had no life, while I had to go work in the morning. That is what I meant with, you are heading for disaster.”
House music is not my taste, I’m into rock, indie, and dance. Sorry but your analysis of me is way off, and do you work 7 days a week. And if so, why don’t you take a break instead of being so uptight?
“I knew you were a person like that from the beginning after I saw you writing on this forum. You are challenging life and life will catch up with you one day and then you will remember my words I have warned you.”
You can’t even put together one or two sentences to describe me. I think you’ll find small quantities of alcohol have been proven good for you by scientific research, and been verified many times. Your concept of sinning and being good are typical naive views of someone who thinks he/she knows it all. You can have fun without going over the top.
If aliens showed up on the 14th KJ, would you have the guts and sense of morality to apologize and admit you were wrong. That’s the difference between me and you, and most others here. Your self-centred egotistical viewpoint is what prevents you from achieving your potential.
Some of your comments are getting longer and longer, is this a sign that you have nothing better to do. Your predictions of the future are vague and saying something will happen soon which is terrible is not accurate enough mate, and so can be interpreted as anything when something happens. Did anyone until the credit crisis began or before 9/11 actually predict end of the world prophecies, except for 2012 but there’s no reason to assume just because the mayan calender ends that the world will too. Will the world end just because your calender on the wall gets to the end of the year? No, similarly because there’s no reason to think that it will. Predicting something now like economic collapse or even middle eastern wars aren’t future telling, it’s just making a prediction which is quite likely to happen anyway. No more skillful than predicting the sun will rise tomorrow morning.
It doesn’t mean psychic abilities are impossible, it just means there’s no evidence to suggest it can be done. Possibly on the 14th that may happen.
The rest of that really long comment looks like a copy and paste job from a fundamentalist website, and is not really worth the time of anyone on here, and definitely not worth my time.
KJ, you are a religious extremist, whether or not you murder people, you are an extremist and no better than those who strap bombs to themselves, in more ways than one.
The point about reptilians farming humans using greys has a basis on what abductees have been saying. And maybe another species who look similar to humans have a basis in what jesus was, maybe an alien who was mistook for something like a god as the powers to heal may be from advanced technological devices. Imagine how a culture thousands of years less advanced than humans now would react to a mobile phone that could play music??? They would probably call it a magical box, and hence where all the mystical terms may be from. That’s interesting speculation as it fits with a few other premises.
@ Uriah
You obviously know little about science.
All science is is:
Hypothesis
Confirmatory analysis
Hypothesis is valid or invalid.
This process was developed by the ancient Greeks. It is merely a tool or guide, like using MLA to write an essay.
You said: “My point being, thats all science does is pin point one possibility then forget about the rest and lets get on with the nobel peace prizes and historical fame!”
How unwise.
Advances in science are because scientists build on other scientists discoveries. ‘Standing on shoulders of giants’, I think Einstein said that.
You said: “Science is the perfect weapon against the growing interest people have in the truth. ”
Science isn’t some manifestation, it isn’t a ‘thing’. It is simply a process by which truth is found.
@ Joe
Reptillians are demons, not shapeshifters. They are spirits. They can be spirits of deceased people and they can be spirits from the spiritual world. Others were once angelic. They are corrupted in personallity. Dragon, lizard, fish and snake forms they have taken on. There are also spirits as dogs, lions, bulls, cats, and other mammals. That is what it really is.
I have encountered them in different countries I have travelled and visited. I have also seen them entering into people and speak through people. Also I have seen them coming out. Some of them make lizard, fish, snake and other animals movements through humans. Some of them roar, hiss, spit, foam, change voices pound, roll and other sounds. This not a fit, but a real demonic or dead spirit that manifests in people.
People who have certain type of problems and diseases heal extremely fast when they are delivered or set free. Spirits can also transfer through families and people when they are opening “doors” to these spirit.
Manifestations are, Fear, Depression, Oppression, Disease, Gambling problems, Pornography, Sexa ddiction, Alcohol addiction, Drugs addiction and many more issues are all geared and fueled by demonic spirits and other influences from the environment. They become strongholds in the mind and are controlled there.
Ofcourse there are also emotional, psychiatric and psychological problems to distinguish. These are chemical imbalances in people. Which can be helped by medication. However I am not that advocate for medical intervention. Lots of people get suicidal with anti depression drugs when they are weaned off. You can compare that to dykes that are lowered in the brain activity and flood over in to the planes. Which sparks of irresponsible behaviour, which needs to be controlled by chemical processes. This is just simple explained because under the surface a lot more is happening.
Human beings exist of a Three fold nature.
1. Body (Soma) eyesight, smell, hearing, taste, feeling. (carnal)
2. Soul, (Psyche) Imagination, Conscience, Memory, Reason, Affections (natural)
3. Spirit, (Pneuma) Sense, Faculties, Faith, Hope, Reverence, Prayer, Worship. (spiritual)
Through the spirit (pneuma) is the dividing of soul and spirit. Through the soul is the dividing of the body and soul. Finally we and up to the outer layer which is our human body, bones or flesh.
The spirit is your personality.
The soul is your mind or brain.
The body is what others see you on the outside.
If a spirit takes over your spirit by possession, you will behave as that spirit is dictating you. It depends how strong the spirit is and the character or personality is has. Everything is designed and directed to destroy you eventually and kill you. Manifestations are in the unconsciousness and in the natural as I have described up here. Those who are possessed can also be used as a vessel to achieve things in the natural. This can be all sort of manifestations. Too much now to get into that. They are easily spotted in the natural world you see when they manifest in a certain type of way.
If the Spirit of God takes you over you will be at peace with yourself. You will be in control of what you are doing.
The Spirit of God can also speak through you to your spirit. These are not the voices in your head, but is the inner-man that can guide you out of a situation. It depends if you listen to it or you suppress it.
Hearing the Spirit of God needs connection with His Spirit and meditation and prayer. Simply communication and/or fasting.
Seeing in the Spirit of God needs connection with His Spirit and meditation and prayer. Simply communication and/or fasting.
This is not channeling in any way or form.
The Word of God is written to see if the voices you hear are truly from God.
The nay sayers that the bible is not the inspired Word of God will see that the spiritual and the Word of God are ONE. You need to be sort of trained into that.
This means: Discipline, Devotion, Commitment and Study.
Outcome is not fiction, but revelation, insight, direction, peace, love and other abilities.
The Spirit of God is power. It feels like as if you would put your hands in a wall contact and the power flows through you.
It has healing virtue, deliverance power to cast out demons, removes tiredness and increases alertness.
I work with these things on a daily basis. This is my lifestyle and no fiction for me and it works. It is based upon faith. Evidence on things not seen.
You can’t just go to school for that, but you need the devotion to do this and discipline. Some people are even chosen for it to do this on a 24 hour basis. This is called a calling.
This can be by a Word of knowledge that comes from God directly to you or by prophetic means.
I can testify this the way how my life is. Most people are not interested in such lifestyle and rather want to do an education in a subject they like best.
This is not a problem. Education is good for those who feel comfortable in it. It is entirely your choice. There is a good plan and there is a God plan. The God plan is preferable. You need to discover this for your life. All this comes with patience, devotion and answering the calling.
Thanks for listening.
@ Uriah
“Let us not forget the enemy seeks to “divide” us and that our ability to learn is also the greatest tool used to manipulate us.”
Learning does not manipulate anyone, you can choose to learn what you want after leaving school. I don’t see how that works what you suggest, can you give an example please?
“Science is becoming a new religion(or as i call it mind prison).How so? Well, I can prove through science that the sky is blue right?”
No, religions involve leaps of faith. Scientific knowledge involves no leaps of faith.
“But all that does is show 1 of limitless possibilities.As we know the sky is not really blue and can be many different colors.”
Actually science explains the various colours in the sky quite well and are all part of the visible spectrum, from Red-Green-Blue. Quote from wikipedia : “Although the spectrum is continuous and therefore there are no clear boundaries between one color and the next, the ranges may be used as an approximation.”
Such approximations are used in electronics, and your computer video card and monitor display a 32-bit set-up. This gives 2^32 which is approximately 4.3 billion colours.
When we say the sky is blue it’s just an easier way of explaining rather than stating there is a spectrum of colours around the blue and red part of the spectrum. Without going into detail, various parts of the visible spectrum scatter and refract when passing thru’ the atmosphere. This causes the blueish sky and reddish sunsets. You are right about the sky never being just one shade of blue, as that’s not how nature operates.
“My point being, thats all science does is pin point one possibility then forget about the rest and lets get on with the nobel peace prizes and historical fame!”
That’s not a valid point anymore is it… These scientists get nobel prizes and fame because they’ve done decades of research and experiments to validate their claims. They deserve the fame for that.
You shouldn’t pretend to be an expert in optics without at least reading the basics, and even then what some scientists have discovered thru’ experimental procedures will seem baffling and even more confusing as you will need to understand the basic science before attempting to understand the more complex & advanced parts of it. You will never get one scientist who is an expert in all areas. That’s because the amount of work put into each area is so great it takes up a whole lifetime, and when scientists write hundreds of books & papers on something that sounds almost impossible to understand for the average person, that doesn’t mean it’s all wrong just because you don’t know what it means. If you look at papers written by scientists in science magazines, most of the works are technical jargon and unless you’ve studied well in the field at the highest level, you would never be able to decipher what it means. And that’s the same for everyone. I’m not saying I understand even a small part of this advanced stuff, like you, I would also not have any idea at what it was about, apart from possibly the introduction page! Science has almost a language of its own developed over decades, same as maths, and both are linked well together.
“Do you think Einstein figured out all his theories on his own? No he was singled out and pushed in the direction of science by the system.”
It’s unlikely one person manages to see things from all perspectives, and so will find it difficult to formulate all principles. I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest Einstein was forced into believing in science. Science consists of logical premises, not leaps of faith. Einstein was brilliant at what he did and so he chose that path himself, and everyone who tutored him obviously did a great job!
“I have had personal experience with this “push” look it up its called S.I.P. and it operates all over the world. They seek out gifted minded kids and push science on them.”
Why is this not a good thing? Science progresses the world, and everyone then benefits. By pushing on them I don’t think it means they are ‘forced’ into anything, just tutored well in science, and so they will enjoy it and do well, and lead to a successful career. A degree in science subjects allow someone to be employed in all sorts of jobs, and they don’t have to be scientists. This bodes well for future employment for any job which requires critical thinking and logic thought processes. That’s not my opinion, that is what the job industry thinks and that’s why kids are taught science well, or should be taught science well.
“Not that we aren’t learning more through science or benefiting from it but just don’t start quoting it like its a religion”
Nobody is except for religious people, and/or those who misunderstand science. Learning in science involves no great leaps of faith like all religious studies do.
“remember its government funded and takes lots of money and so they only fund what fits their agenda of control.Science is the perfect weapon against the growing interest people have in the truth.”
So there’s a conspiracy in science. Do you not realise that is absurd even by low standards of some of the religious viewpoints seen on here and on our planet. If all kids were taught religion as fact and ignored science they wouldn’t be able to get into university to do any degrees in engineering, maths, science and most other degrees. They would be unemployable, unless we all build churches for the future for them to work there. Come on… some of your points are so fundamentalist, they could be considered extremist, which most fundamentalist religions are.
“Don’t forget religion bought them plenty of time to figure this all out and by teaching us knowledge is evil they have stunted mental growth at least a thousand years!!!”
I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. This point sounds pro-science unlike previous parts of your comment. I agree religions hold back people from what you could call growth.
“And back to possibility. Why would they pump more money into the other possibilities when its easier to reach one conclusion and shut the book, the check book!!!”
So we should all stop looking for answers because some people think they already know, yet they can’t prove their claims. Back to anti-science again are we!
“my point being all this crap is the same science religion you name it. It gives you the security of knowing it all with the luxury of never really knowing”
Your point is completely invalid, as if you don’t know it all then you never knew it all in the first place. I’m sorry there’s no luxury in that at all. If you wish to live like that fine, but it’s not a good idea to try and force that way onto others, if you ever decide to in the future.
I’m not sure if I misunderstood some of the things you said, as they were baffling, and in many ways appeared to contradict each other. And at times you were talking about sciene and religion as the same thing and seemed to be getting them completely mixed up! There are such stark differences between the two that it should be impossible to get them mixed up. They aren’t even parallel senses of reality, both are completely perpendicular to each other if you were to interpret them both in a diagram.
@ KJ
“I work with these things on a daily basis. This is my lifestyle and no fiction for me and it works. It is based upon faith. Evidence on things not seen.”
Therefore not valid evidence, thank you for pointing out your own flaws. Surely your interpretation of this is limited just like everyone’s interpretation of what we see, feel, imagine etc.
“You can’t just go to school for that, but you need the devotion to do this and discipline. Some people are even chosen for it to do this on a 24 hour basis. This is called a calling.”
You’re “chosen” to tell us that with your limited perception in the same way of others, you know more than anyone else on this planet, and somehow we’re supposed to accept it as the truth. Admit you’re no more special than anyone else on here, and be honest with yourself. No-one is calling for you to tell us this, it’s just your own brain making the concious decision to take a leap of faith. Or maybe an non-conscious decision, caused by some madness maybe.
“This can be by a Word of knowledge that comes from God directly to you or by prophetic means.”
Nah I think that it’s more likely just the madness kicking in. If you have such powers to listen directly to god, could you not be more specific when you speak. For someone so advanced as god, he/she speaks in riddles that could mean anything, and therefore meaningless.
“I can testify this the way how my life is. Most people are not interested in such lifestyle and rather want to do an education in a subject they like best.”
OK, that’s fine. It’s interesting what you’re proposing, but the reason it’s difficult to accept anything you say is because you resort to anger too much when some dis-believes your beliefs. I’m not discounting the possibility that certain things outside of our visible reality exist.
“This is not a problem. Education is good for those who feel comfortable in it. It is entirely your choice. There is a good plan and there is a God plan. ”
So is the god plan not the good plan? You’ve lost me now. Education is aquiring knowledge. If you are really speaking with a god or alien entity then it is a form of education. But I still don’t think you’ve shown anything exceptional to sway anyone into thinking that you are. Something like predicting an event exact, such as Blosson Goodchild predicting 14th October, would give credibility if the event takes place. And the same applies to you.
“The God plan is preferable. You need to discover this for your life. All this comes with patience, devotion and answering the calling.”
You can’t even tell us what the god plan is in any form of technical approach, never mind prove that’s it’s preferable to anyone apart from yourself.
“Thanks for listening. ”
I only read the bit at the end, I just had to skip thru’ more of your fundamentalist views.
@ John
You are a soulish man, you stuff your imagination, concience, memory, reason and affections with knowledge from boosk as you think worldly knowledge is power. But you use that power to flog others and abuse them by your own twisted reason. This you do by what you see, smell, hear, taste and touch. You are spiritually dead. Which manifests in your lusts, greed, insecurities and twisting of spiritual truth. John, the world is not evolving around you. And if we would follow you and your knowledge, we would all go to hell in a handbasket. Guaranteed. If you follow God’s word exactly as it is, it is your way out of everything and any problem. You just have to apply it.
Therefore you are extremely carnal and living on the result and insights of your carnal abilities. There is nothing spiritual about you whatsoever.
You have trained your reason, imagination, affections and conscience to an ability to distort others who can be right without giving them space to practice what they do. Very egotistical. Which is called a soulish man. Your growth hangs upon gathering knowledge and the abuse of it and throw it at people. Nothing wrong with gathering knowledge, but I will tell you how you gather it in the right way.
Add to your faith, virtue; and to virtue (to do), knowledge; to knowledge, temperance; and to temperance, patience; and to patience, godliness; and to godlines, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, charity.
You don’t want to walk and learn this way, you just gather knowledge or science and you slam it around peoples head. This truth is just self-evident. Because you only have criticized anything that has been presented at you, without offering any solutions.
Simply because you are a total and complete carnal personality. Driven by your reptilian brain urges and your amygdala centers who desire that you appease them instantly. Look up what an reptilian brain does and what amygdala do. Maybe you wake up. How poorly you are and on the road of selfdestruction.
And about that prophecy, the information that I put there is because it did not copy at paste properly from my Word document and ended up a little out of line.
Perfectionist ! Get a real life ! Everyone is making mistakes in your view, but you never make one yourself is it ? You probably have a reason why you vehemently deny everything. There is tons written into science and books you should go and deny vehemently. You are a bad student, reject anything that does not fit in your narrow telescopic view, yet still you are trying to make yourself the man of the hour. I am not impressed. I have seen thousands better then you.
I never asked you to be gullible, but you are extremely self-righteous, puffed up and misled by knowledge that is perishing and by what I wrote up here as an explanation of who you really are.
Yes Reptilians are Demons of the Bible and other cultures.
Reptilians are 4th demensional beings, and what is normal and everyday to them seems absolutely god like to us.
Reptilians fear death above all things – constantly every day – they have no soul like we do. When they die, it is over for them, not like us who die and are born again.
Reptilians bleed, if they bleed, you can kill them. That is why they fear the humans that they farm and feast on. That is why they operate in secret.
The age of the reptilians on earth is at an end.
Humans are wonderous creatures. Live by love. not fear.
It is clearly obvious Billy that you have not done your reaserch on this topic. If you would have read their message clearly you would have realized that they are not appearing OVER Alabama…that is the name of the craft! It seems like you do not even have the correct information to be talking to the public in the manner that you know all about what the prediction was when you don’t.
I believe that there is a good possibilty that this could happen, I have read enough information about it to write to the public about it and instead of MAKING FUN OF IT! I have decided to keep an open mind that this could happen. I hope your name is put to SHAME if it does happen.
EVERYONE LOOK AT GOOGLE EARTH WITH WEATHER TURNED ON. YOU CAN SEE THE CRAFT.
Blossom Goodchild also predicted the Florida sky thing that happend in august.
She said SNOWCONE on a raideo broadcast not knowing why she was channeld this. Within the next few days gaint clouds formed like in a triangular form like a snow cone. They were of massive size.
I think that more people should have an OPENED MIND about this topic instead of just putting it down.
I have a different interpretation:
“snow cone” – Aliens love to eat snow cones, especially yellow ones.
“alabama” – Rednecks love Aliens, just as much as Aliens love rednecks!
“table” – Aliens are mystified by tables, it is a strange and unusual quadruped, and in space with no gravity, they don’t need tables. For them, the table is the pinnacle of human technological achievements. Well done humanity!
“diamond” – Aliens love shiny objects just like the next person, and what a more beautiful way to say, “I love you”, then with a diamond. So please give them your diamonds when they come, and they will love you too.
“shine your shoes” – No one likes dirty shoes, not even Aliens. Aliens want to meet us, and take us on board their space craft, but not if our shoes are filthy and tracking dirt all over their lovely clean space craft. Be mindful of your footwear when boarding alien craft. Wipe your feet clean.
Those are just my personal interpretations of the clues… I could be waaaaay off base on this one. I’m not an alien, I just kinda look like one.
There are all kinds of anomalies on google earth due to the orbits of the satellites, and data loss caused by merging the various data points which causes inconsistent cloud display.
@ KJ
you said “You are spiritually dead”
Anything is better than being a brain dead dopey twit like you.
you said “the world is not evolving around you. And if we would follow you and your knowledge, we would all go to hell in a handbasket. Guaranteed. If you follow God’s word exactly as it is, it is your way out of everything and any problem. You just have to apply it.”
The Earth is always changing, nothing stays the same. Now you’re threatening me with hell, how typical?! Be original for once in your life. You can’t be for science one minute and then against it one minute later. Go ahead and pray to your god, that’s got nothing to do with me, but empty threats gets you extemists nowhere.
you said “Everyone is making mistakes in your view, but you never make one yourself is it ?”
I never said that, and everyone makes mistakes. But you aren’t going to admit yours are you!
you said “You probably have a reason why you vehemently deny everything. There is tons written into science and books you should go and deny vehemently.”
The fact you cannot provide me with any substantial evidence means there is not even something for me to deny, never mind ignore. There’s not even a tad that you have shown anyone on here to prove that you have god talking to you.
“You are a bad student, reject anything that does not fit in your narrow telescopic view, yet still you are trying to make yourself the man of the hour. I am not impressed. I have seen thousands better then you.
I’m not rejecting any ideas, it’s you who is rejecting years of proper work which has been done. Provide me with something concrete and the rest of the world will take you seriously.
I’m not interested in gaining your respect as it’s not even worth more than a shred of toilet paper. Come back with something worthwhile, then maybe some of us will be more interested in your opinion.
“I never asked you to be gullible, but you are extremely self-righteous, puffed up and misled by knowledge that is perishing and by what I wrote up here as an explanation of who you really are.”
Haha someone who thinks he knows everything like yourself actually calls a non-believer self-righteous. You have lost your mind. You are calling knowledge incorrect, yet the definition of knowledge : “The state or fact of knowing”. That is like admitting something is fact, and then rejecting it.
You are actually quite a disturbed person if you think anything you have said to me has been substantial. Your so called large scale knowledge of the world lacks more than even an 11 year olds view.
Gradually people have begun to stop talking to you on here kj. Is it not apparent why? Has this happened to you in your normal life as well? Does that not indicate something is wrong with the way you go about talking to others?
I don’t think I’m going to say much more to you, and I’m surprised I’ve even bothered to keep this conversation going this long. Other people reading this conversation will be wondering the same as well.
And if you deny that you have ever been “for” science, you have said earlier that scientific achievements have been great at solving various problems in the world, that way way back you said were really important to solve.
You’re also using a computer to send msgs on here or using electronic devices, and those are the product of science, in particular quantum physics, and digital electronic. For someone who denies that scientific knowledge in fact works quite well on the world, and calls for me to reject it, you are quite happy to make use of the products of scientific advancement. That is called being a hypocrite, and yes most religions and religious believers are good at hypocrisy. Islamic extremism in particular are the worst, by using mobile phones (invented in the USA) to coordinate attacks on western countries they hate so much. You’re nowhere near as bad as those, but there was a time when they were probably just like you, spreading extremism without causing real harm. Fundamentalist extremism one day could become just as harmful to the rest of us.
Now are you going to quit playing silly games.
“And about that prophecy, the information that I put there is because it did not copy at paste properly from my Word document and ended up a little out of line.”
Sheeple – you believe what someone tells you without even doing your own background research. Oh yes this prophet says that, that means it must be right – Sorry that kind of inability to think for yourself does not bode well for you.
For one its not a “UFO” its a ship. They are not aliens that are coming. they are angels…
First things first
october 14
look up 10-14 in the bible. It explains everything.
Two: They come in love nothing else…
Three- Go to google earth, their ship is visable, be sure that the weather is on to see their ship. I have strong feelings that they are coming. and if they do remember they come in love =D.
@ John
You don’t know what a parallel world is, John. Everything that you know now comes out of the spiritual world, no discoveries were ever done by any mankind.
This on earth is a mirror of what already exists over there. Duh !
All truth is parallel.
That you in your ineptitude cannot deal with your: Deception, Temptation, Doubt, Worry, Fear and Discouragement means that your truth of science means nothing then the fallacies you try to hang up here.
Your expectancy level is based upon: The natural world and it’s breakthroughs which are nobodies discoveries. They already existed.
Natural World
- Education
- Transportation
- Communication
- Space exploration
- Nutrition
- Agriculture
- Science
- Medicine
- Technology
In between both these worlds there are breakthroughs towards the natural.
Spirit World
- Word of God (Superior to all Education and Science)
- Healing
- Miracles
- Prophecy
- Gifts of the Spirit I Corinthians 12
- Fruit of the Spirit Galatians 5:22
- Presence of God
- Revelation
In all these things I have mentioned in from the spiritual line you have not eaten one ounce of cheese.
You are just like anyone else, an imposter of the selfdelusion that you are able to control the situation at any moment with science and knowledge.
Your science you have learned is simply a duplicate what exists in the supernatural. Something that you never have stepped into, because of reason as I have explained in my former post.
Now you are trying to talk condescending again and compare me to an 11 year old. Go ask an 11 year old and see if they can explain these matters. They don’t teach you such things on schools. It comes by revelation. Another thing you have not examined and worked out. You failed again.
Who is a liar, he that denies that Jesus is the Christ. Another thing that is established about you as self-evident.
You have no idea how you have to generate spiritual energy, the only thing you know the laws that God has put in it’s place regarding what Mr. Einstein has covered. Nothing new, again, it was already in existance in the spiritual world. Things where you extract third hand things out of. You are just a copy of what is already there.
You are:
- Alienated from God.
- Unable and unwilling to hear His Voice.
- Calloused
- Disobedient
- Unrepentant
- Selfrighteous
You are incapable to examine your heart condition and is flowing out of it.
The only thing I have seen from you is Carbon copy, like we all are and our knowledge what you call science. The pillar of so called growth, what is duplicated from over there.
Your expectancy level is base on: Thoughts, Emotions, Hearing, Touching, and Vision as I said before. Instead your expectancy level should be based on hope, Based on the written Living Word of God that you so despise and refute.
Which has not only created you as a downright crude savage in word and ability with the control of science as your stick-horse you run around with.
You think that progress is advance ? I think it is time you go to the third world and the jungle and do your impressions and take your science with you and show them the road to redemption. I don’t think so. I am sure they will teach you a lesson or two on how life is put together. You are hardened by the deceitfulness of sin and that the wages of sin is death.
You have put yourself in a prison where you can’t even come out of because you have locked yourself in because of third hand me down knowledge which has limited scope what really is happening in this world and the parallel world.
You are wilfully rejecting God’s will and asserting your own will.
You are wilfully rejecting God’s Word.
You are wilfully opposing God and His Authority.
You are wilfully disregarding the of Jesus that has made it possible for you to have power over sin and walk in obedience with God.
You wilfully have made yourself your own god and the disaster that comes out of that.
The only thing that is about to happen that before pride, a steep fall will take place.
You wilfully live under fear by acquiring knowledge, because you can’t live by Faith which works way faster then you going to your Uni 100 years. And you are too scared to surrender to be able to live such a life. Your push drive is FEAR. Primal FEAR. It is in the fabric of your life woven not been able to control your environment with nothing to fall back upon then that overreactive brain of yours.
You have shown how a control freak you are because of aquiring knowledge and abuse it by not applying for what it was designed for, then throwing it at people’s heads to let them know you are superior. Really ? Two thumbs down dude.
I have loads of friends all over the world, who respect me, email, phone and write and ask my input and solutions about matters. Unlike you who is arrogant and is not teachable. You behave as if you are Nigel Know-it-All.
Go live in your cocoon of science, knowledge and become our new world redeemer and make sure they will not blow your brains out because you failed because you just did not have enough scientific proof or knowledge.
Well, the writer of Star Trek was said to be channeling ideas from his subconscious, many technologies that did not exist and were not really dreamed of in science back then are now known to be at least technically possible (if not technically feasible right now due to budget). Look at the Large Hydron Collider. Jules Vern is another one – submarines, rockets etc. So many times unconsciously very creative people do hit the nail right on the head in amongst the fiction, and Star Trek is believed to be one of those enduring themes that seems to have a lot of prophetic ideas in it, some of which have proven themselves, some which have yet to prove themselves. So do not discount something as wrong just because it has a parallel in a fictional work, sometimes that fictional creator might have just been picking up on facts “through the ether”. It wouldn’t be the first time. You have to keep an open mind, well know if this is legit in a few days or so. We have to remember if there are aliens who are wanting to make contact with us, now would be a good time, as we are on the verge of major global crises, (or rather we are, but not many have truly realised it), and secondly they will be completely unconditioned by our heavily conditioned earth reality, tv shows, brainwashing by the media and mass “assumptions” about the nature of reality that science – mainstream science – has proven undoubtedly to be completely incorrect, but we go on basing our perception on these false assumptions – much like the flat earth theory. So they may well call themselves the federation of light, and not car about star trek, perhaps knowing that’s where the name came from in the first place. They may well have these technologies and speak in this way as it is channeled. It may also be a big bunch of nonsense, a CIA hoax, or it may be just a deluded person. How accurate is this person in previous accounts? I’ve never read her work. Everyone should adopt the wait and see approach. We must not abdicate responsibility for the state of affairs though.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.
@ John,
About the prophecy ? I know who said it. It is sufficient and it will come to pass.
The Message
Blossom’s most recent book “The Bridge” documents the messages channelled to her by the Cosmic Beings known as The Federation of Light. In her most recent encounters with them they have announced that one of their craft will appear in our skies on October 14th 2008 for a period of three days in such a way as to prove to us the existence of other life forms in the Universe. The Federation of Light stress that they come in LOVE to help us and our planet move to a new Higher Vibration of Love. They have asked Blossom to get this message out to as many people as possible.
TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….
We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states.
We give to you the name of Alabama.
It has been decided that we shall remain within your atmosphere for the minimum of three of your twenty four hour periods.
During this time there will be much commotion upon your earth plane. Your highest authorities will be intruding into ‘our’ atmospherics that surround our ship. This ‘security field’ is necessary for us, as there shall take place a ‘farce’ from those in your world who shall try to deny that we come in LOVE.
KNOW OF THIS
WE COME TO ASSIST YOUR WORLD.
WE DO NOT COME TO TAKE OVER.
WE DO NOT COME TO DESTRUCT.
WE COME TO GIVE YOU HOPE.
We are beings from other planets, who for many eons of your time have been preparing for these days ahead.
We ask each soul that reads of these words to accept in their heart the Truth that lies within. For in that place there is the knowing that this is to take place.
There shall be many who deny. There shall be many who dismiss.
There shall be those who KNOW of this TRUTH.
Which ever you may be … let this be understood.
IT SHALL TAKE PLACE.
We give you the opportunity to capture on screen this particular ship. There shall be no contact in the form that those of your planet would like. For this initial presentation, we shall simply be presenting our ship to you.
We say to you … That shall certainly be enough to comprehend initially.
All kinds of methods shall be carried out in order to try and penetrate through our security barrier, but they shall be to no avail.
Until we can PROVE to you that we come in LOVE, we will not allow the fullness of our visits to be uncovered.
KNOW OF THIS …
THIS IS THE BEGINNING … NOT THE END
Your governments and your media will try to disguise us. This will fail. All avenues have been covered by us.
Your media will have no choice but to portray the TRUTH for it shall be there for all to see.
Friends of earth. Do not be afraid. We beseech you to TRUST that we come to bring the downfall of those who have misintentions for the well being of your planet.
If we do not intervene now … as has been planned for eons of your earth time … then we fear it would be too late.
WE ASK YOU TO ACCEPT US IN LOVE.
FOR THAT IS WHY WE COME.
The sayings that your world have been aware of via your movie screens etc were not merely make believe. We have been planting and watering seeds of Truth on your planet in preparation for these days.
FOR INDEED
WE COME IN PEACE.
Fill your souls with TRUST in that knowledge.
We are your brothers and sisters from other places.
Our technology is far advanced. There are those in high places of ruling that KNOW full well of this. Therefore they know that there would be little point trying to ‘pretend’ that they need weapons to destroy us.
On this day that we appear, we ask you to listen only to your hearts and NOT to the words of those who shall be in great fear of losing their power.
For too long your world has lived under a cloud that most of you have been unaware of. If you were to KNOW the Truths of what has been hidden from you, you would be appalled and in great disbelief.
It is time for your souls to be allowed to be who they are.
The veil is to be removed.
BE OF JOY.
IT IS A TIME FOR THAT.
YOU SHALL KNOW OF THIS AS YOUR HEART ACCEPTS THE TRUE REASON FOR OUR VISIT.
TO BRING YOU AN UNDERSTANDING OF LOVE. KNOW THIS.
We choose to leave it at that.
Be vigilant. Keep your eyes to the skies.
Keep LOVE in your heart.
WE … THE FEDERATION OF LIGHT … SIGN OFF, GIVING YOU ENCOURAGEMENT AND HOPE AS WE BEGIN THE ASCENSION INTO THE NEW WORLD.
Each one of you has chosen to be here for this ascension. Choose now whether your human form will …
Accept it through LOVE Or Reject it through FEAR.
May the Highest aspect of your soul fill you with Light as you move bravely forward.
Gratitude to each one as they assist us in the cause
—————————————————————–
A note from Blossom.
I am aware that Alabama is NOT in the Southern Hemisphere. I queried this to the Federation and was told … ‘In days of old, it used to be’. If anyone can find information on this, I would be most grateful if you could contact me via my website.
It has also been suggested that ‘Alabama’ maybe the name of a craft.
On researching it appears that Alabama has a NASA space centre. .
It required great courage to send this out. I hope this allows you the courage within yourselves to continue on your own personal search for YOUR TRUTH.
may it fill you with much
LOVE LIGHT LAUGHTER & GOLDEN RAYS
Blossom Goodchild
Gives Blossom Goodchild a banana for lunch for underway when she is sucked up in oblivion.
Listen KJ I have no problem in accepting a spiritual world if it’s discovered. So stop trying to force principles onto other that’s currently unproven.
you said “I have loads of friends all over the world, who respect me, email, phone and write and ask my input and solutions about matters.”
What about actual contact with people face-to-face. There’s plenty of scared, uneducated, or even lost people who will follow you. That doesn’t mean that you’re right.
“Unlike you who is arrogant and is not teachable. You behave as if you are Nigel Know-it-All.”
You still don’t understand that I accept I don’t know a great deal. There’s too much to learn in one lifetime, and that’s just our current level of science and technology. What’s beyond that will be so remarkable that not anyone can dream of it’s potential. On the contrary you are the complete opposite of me. I’m going to be so judgemental and call you arrogant because you don’t realise when to stop being petty, and it’s gone far enough now.
“Go live in your cocoon of science, knowledge and become our new world redeemer and make sure they will not blow your brains out because you failed because you just did not have enough scientific proof or knowledge.”
An ever expanding larger than anything ever imagined cocoon is what it is, which encompasses everything. Imagining you have all the answers doesn’t help either so your point is moot.
Are you going to try and answer my previous posts directly when I countered your points, or are you going to keep attempting different methods of attack until I give up even bothering with you?
you said “You are just like anyone else, an imposter of the selfdelusion that you are able to control the situation at any moment with science and knowledge.”
I hardly see you controlling anything, not even your self-delusions.
“Your science you have learned is simply a duplicate what exists in the supernatural. Something that you never have stepped into, because of reason as I have explained in my former post.”
Again you don’t want to explain anything about the supernatural powers.
“Now you are trying to talk condescending again and compare me to an 11 year old. Go ask an 11 year old and see if they can explain these matters. They don’t teach you such things on schools. It comes by revelation. Another thing you have not examined and worked out. You failed again.”
You haven’t explained anything. Revelation, sure explain it then. Don’t just throw words without giving me “real” explanation on how these processes work. You know, like science does, where they write thousands of books on well thought out processes.
“Who is a liar, he that denies that Jesus is the Christ. Another thing that is established about you as self-evident.
There is no real evidence to even deny. Show me evidence or explain how this can be brought forward spiritually, and I will accept those things exist. But I doubt you can, you will just say you are a chosen blahda blahda blahda special little one of gods toys.
“You have no idea how you have to generate spiritual energy, the only thing you know the laws that God has put in it’s place regarding what Mr. Einstein has covered.”
OK go ahead and explain, don’t just be negative if you have such positive spiritual powers, try and use them to good effect. I don’t know all the laws of physics, nobody does yet. I don’t even know all the known laws, and you probably don’t even know 1 known law. I would have no problem accepting god created these laws if that was the case. Surely is god is all knowing then he would know this, and god would be fine with that.
Talking of spiritual energy, recently I’ve felt a stronger sense of spirituality than I have previously. I’ve also read comments on forums of people saying the same, and feeling a sense of inner-happiness and not feeling malice towards others. Some are even suggesting it’s related to the October 14th prediction. I shouldn’t relate it to that as I know it’s talking a leap of faith, do as every day gets closer the more I think it’s possible this event could happen. And you talk to me like you’re the expert about spirituality. I never claim to be the expert in anything. We will see what happens, and if aliens do visit on the 14th, I hope you reconsider your current venture of trying to vent your gods anger out on others.
“Nothing new, again, it was already in existance in the spiritual world. Things where you extract third hand things out of. You are just a copy of what is already there.”
Sounds interesting, but you would have to demostrate this rather than just claiming it to be so.
you said “You don’t know what a parallel world is, John. Everything that you know now comes out of the spiritual world, no discoveries were ever done by any mankind.”
Parallel realities are just a theory in Quantum Physics. Difficult to understand so I won’t go into any details.
This on earth is a mirror of what already exists over there. Duh !
All truth is parallel.
That you in your ineptitude cannot deal with your: Deception, Temptation, Doubt, Worry, Fear and Discouragement means that your truth of science means nothing then the fallacies you try to hang up here.
Your expectancy level is based upon: The natural world and it’s breakthroughs which are nobodies discoveries. They already existed.
you said “Natural World
- Education
- Transportation
- Communication
- Space exploration
- Nutrition
- Agriculture
- Science
- Medicine
- Technology”
Actually some of those things aren’t natural in origin, they’re man-made or products of human evolution and advancements. If you can be wrong so many times that I’ve already pointed out, then do you not realise you could be absolutely wrong with some of the larger claims you’re making?
you said “You wilfully live under fear by acquiring knowledge, because you can’t live by Faith which works way faster then you going to your Uni 100 years.”
You misunderstand the whole concept of learning. Acquiring knowledge is aquiring facts. Why can’t you do both? Aquire scientific knowledge, and aquire knowledge by so called faith methods, and link the two. You said earlier the natural world and spiritual world are linked. Therefore both techniques should be interchangable. If you do actually produce hard facts from your methods, that’s great. I’m not saying your intentions are wrong, just the methodology to get to what you call absolute truth doesn’t seem like absolute anything or you are failing to put across what you have discovered from your spiritual abilities.
How many items do you use in your daily life have been designed, engineered and invented by someone with a degree in science, engineering or maths? Now it would be nice if you don’t ignore this as you have done with most other points I’ve put across to you. Can you really say you have aquired so much more knowledge than what those inventors have produced even in their individual lives?
“And you are too scared to surrender to be able to live such a life. Your push drive is FEAR. Primal FEAR. It is in the fabric of your life woven not been able to control your environment with nothing to fall back upon then that overreactive brain of yours.”
Surrender… you say. To what exactly? I don’t fear anything. The truth is unavoidable, and you or anyone else cannot change that. It’s too bad if you don’t like different approaches to life. So you’re also saying it’s best not to use your brain? But you were also claiming you know better, how can you know better if you don’t think first before you do or say anything. And I think you’ll find everyone will agree with me on this, if they don’t already agree.
“You have shown how a control freak you are because of aquiring knowledge and abuse it by not applying for what it was designed for, then throwing it at people’s heads to let them know you are superior. Really ? Two thumbs down dude.”
Controlling people… now that rings a bell. Oh yes, is that not what religions all do, including what you do trying to instill fear into people that hell is around the corner. Please, do us all a favour and shut up.
I never claimed any superiority, I think you’ll find it’s you claiming anything at all. All I’m doing is explaining how common sense operates.
So aquiring knowledge is bad according to you, but yet yields excellent human progress. And then you don’t wish to learn this knowledge, not from me or anyone else because you are beyond all of this “learning” stuff. And what purpose do you feel knowledge is for, not to aquire, but instead to be ignorant of it all. And you even claim that it was designed for that purpose, by who? What was the point of your god designing these laws of nature, if we’re not to aquire the knowledge of it all.
12.The days are drawing ever closer to your visit. I’d bake a cake in your honour but I have absolutely NO culinary skills! I await your next report and as far as I can gather … so does most of the world. (Gulp!)
We are with you dear lady and we bring you peace of mind and heart. Tension is mounting in various avenues of your planet and quite rightly so, for there are those who are aware of our coming and our living out great concern, for their actions are now to be accounted for. Let it be known that we are only of LOVE therefore we send LOVE TO ALL.
You have heard that many are experiencing headaches and asking if this is due to our arrival. It is not our intention to cause disruption in the head area, and yet it appears that indeed our frequency is resonating with some on a level that is causing such a malady. For this we apologize and we say it is wise to drink of your purest water. We also suggest that you place you first two digits of each hand either side of your temples, (you will ‘feel’ the correct place) and visualize the pressure being released through the third eye position. As if like a blue electric line. This we believe will assist that particular imbalance.
Well, my friends, it feels rather odd now talking to you, knowing that the big day is just over a week away. I can only ask you to accept the LOVE that those on our planet are sending out to you. I am SURE you are receiving it. We all wait … What is going on for you??
‘Full speed ahead. Every thing is in place. Every being is in position. Monitoring systems are in full capacity. All is ready. Only one thing left to do ….
Show up???????????
Precisely dear Blossom. Precisely. We are cruising at this juncture and setting levels in order to keep abreast of atmospheric changes.
Of course you must know by now that some will question the fact that you have said ‘full speed ahead’ and then ‘we are cruising’. You know what … in LOVE and respect for the entire human race… I refuse to buy in to all this. I have learnt a great deal lately and what people choose to assess from these channellings is completely up to them, and I will not allow myself to be influenced by what others may or may not make of your words. I shall now jump down of my soap box and … please … continue forth …
Indeed we are aware of your growth and that of many, many upon your earth plane. In some aspects we are experiencing a joy that we had not accounted for. In others, we are deeply saddened by those who have locked their souls in a dungeon of fear and mistrust.
We come to bring the key. To release those in chains if they allow us.
OPEN YOUR EYES … YOUR HEARTS… YOUR MINDS … YOUR BEING.
Allow us in, for there shall be not one moment of regret should you choose to do so.
Very soon now, people of earth, shall our presence be known to you. This great occasion is to be celebrated by ONE. ALL OF US.
Accept us in your TRUTH as we draw closer to your earthly vibration, and remember of the (small) tremor that we spoke of. We speak of this so that there shall be no cause for alarm.
Someone asked if it was to be a physical or earthly tremor? I said both.
It is to be a shuddering within the core of your earth, but it shall cause no damage. It simply can not be avoided. It is of no harm. It shall take place a few days before the time of our appearance.
Another point we would care to state…
Oh please … feel free…
Is that we do not wish for one to run and hide. We ask those in fear of us to ‘face those fears’ and if you do, you will find that we will alleviate them from your being. You will not be able to deny who we are. We stress this. And we say this will be in more ways than one.We have said that you will be ‘blown away’ by what we present …. We encourage you to prepare yourselves in JOY AND LOVE for this day.
CELEBRATE OUR UNION.
LAUGH … PLAY MUSIC … we would ask that it should be a party that the entire planet is invited to share with us … THE FEDERATION … who for so long now have eagerly awaited this magical time in the diary of your earth monitoring.
Struth Ruth!!! If I didn’t know better I’d be concerned that my aorta isn’t behaving as it ‘aughta’ …….. I am assuming this is just the nearness of you … as the song goes.
Dearest brightest Light … how we rejoice in our choosing …
Yep … gone… dissolved … if this LOVE that I am experiencing is anything to go by, I’d advise the world to invest in the ‘tissue’ market!
TRULY my friends, for what I am feeling right now …. THANK YOU.
TRULY what we are sending right now … is just a taster of what is to come.
For this session there is nothing more we require to mention accept.
Here we go … I knew it …
DIAMONDS.
Actually … I do not find that as obscure as table or snow cones .
Ah yes, but when you see what we mean by this it shall be crystal clear.
For this day we must sign out. It is necessary.
Mmm! I felt you leaving quite abruptly then. You know what is best. I have no worries about that. Until tomorrow …
13.Gotta be honest, feeling REALLY tired today … moan moan moan … just wondering if my energy is a bit too low in order to pick up with you?
Lift your spirits dear friend. We are here.
Yep … got that exploding in my heart again suddenly. Good morning … Are you well?
Indeed. We know not of illness. There is much speculation upon your planet as to the whys and wherefores of our arrival. Please let it be known that we do not wish to confuse, that is not of our nature. It is simply that certain methods of discretion are important in order for our mission to succeed. There is little more that is required now. We are very astute and we are of much gratitude for those who are assisting in LOVE on your plane. Collect your thoughts dear ones. Present yourselves to yourselves … are you happy with what you see? Are you proud of how you feel about yourself as you meet it? We ask this of you … concentrate on all the LOVE that is you. Let go of all manner of things that do not serve you in LOVE. It is time now to release them. With our coming you are able to advance your souls evolvement in a fashion that will assist your own individual vibration.
I do know about everywhere else in the world but here in Australia they are showing all the fear based movies such as War of the Worlds etc. I DO HOPE people can see through this. How lovely it would be if they were to show ‘Close Encounters’ or ET, but NO …
My friends , I feel a little low today …I feel so much hope in your visit, for I am bombarded with views from others that indeed show me how much LOVE is needed in this world of ours. And in my heart I KNOW you come to show us a better way… and BOY DO WE NEED IT.
May this be understood by all. We are not making ourselves known in order to conflict with TRUTHS of the soul. We are making ourselves KNOWN in order to WAKE UP many who still sleep. When they awake, there shall be a new ‘feeling’ upon your planet. The beauty that one feels inside will be expressed out to the world and enhance all things upon and within it.
ACCEPT US DEAR SOULS OF EARTH. IF YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELF ALONE YOU SHALL KNOW OF OUR TRUTH.
Refrain from judgment until you have the facts before your very eyes. As we have stated before, upon our arrival there shall be NO QUESTION that we come from somewhere outside your earthly vibration and that indeed we are of great Love for each and every one of you.
Be of peace this day and in the days that follow. Be of good cheer. Take care of each other as we move forward into the great Light of Divinity. For we are all from this LIGHT and those that are in darkness shall one day join their brothers on the pathway home. We ask that you send much Love to the souls that have hidden agendas to cause harm and alarm upon your blessed earth. They are lost in the depths of human greed. Bring them safely home. For we are all brothers and sisters. We are ONE family … ONE energy … therefore as words have been spoken in years behind you … do unto your brother as you would do unto yourself.
WE ARE LOVE. YOU ARE LOVE.LOVE IS ALL THERE IS.
Allow it to express itself through you, in you, as you. We encourage you to rest now Blossom. Everything is in perfect order for our visit and IT SHALL BE SO.
I accept what you say. Feeling better now. You’re right …I know you’re right … how easily we ‘sink’ when energy is low. Eh…. Is that it for today then? No little jigsaw pieces to add.
Yes. SHINE YOUR SHOES.
I’ve got to admit … feel a bit dodgy about that one (not saying I felt ‘safe’ about the others!, yet they seem to be piecing together nicely) so … back to that famous word … TRUST. Shine your shoes it is! Intrigued by that one, but I was the same with snow cone and table.
Dare I ask, just feel I need to know for sure … …is that you that is being hidden on Google earth? Some are saying that is the table clue. If it is … that’s big!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did we not say a craft of HUGE size?
So is it you? I feel you are saying ‘yes’, but to be honest here… I’m questioning it, in case I’m wrong. I’ve been sitting here a few minutes thinking about this and now I am laughing. I feel you want me to put
YYYYEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
So there you are … in for a penny, in for a pound. At this point in the process … what have I got to lose? Oh guys … I feel so much better than when I began today. Lets ALL remember to keep everything we do /are full of that good old LOVE LIGHT AND LAUGHTER. Lets not focus on talk of anything other. I’m putting the kettle on guys … one lump or two? Many thanks
And in deep gratification to you dear lady. In LOVE. . The Federation of light…..
Mike Powell said “science – mainstream science – has proven undoubtedly to be completely incorrect, but we go on basing our perception on these false assumptions – much like the flat earth theory.”
Well Newtonian science explains basic laws of motion on our planet including gravity quite well. And Quantum Physics explains on small scales how this effects our reality on a larger scale, and has proven to work quite well by many technological inventions that these have produced. It’s wrong to just denounce all of this until adequate real data can disprove it, and thus far all collected data supports these.
Scientific knowledge will expand to allow us to understand what may be called science-fiction now, and any contradictions with current laws will be analysed. We’d hope these all match up together at some point into a law of everything, but we don’t disregard laws just because we don’t like them.
Flat earth theory was just a guess with nothing to back it up, and can be compared more accurately with the god theory rather than science.
KJ said “None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free.”
Does not apply to your methodology of thinking than it does to mine? Sure it does.
“About the prophecy ? I know who said it. It is sufficient and it will come to pass. ”
Oh so we’re not worthy of you even bothering to give us any real details of this prophecy, yet you expect us to just agree with you on it. Same old religious views – “it’s true because I say so”.
You have shown yourself to have extreme views, and you don’t even want to elaborate on any of them to try and show that you have a case. Explain how can you even be taken seriously? Are you going to admit you could be wrong?
One valid question about Blossom Goodchild – Did she remember the channeling word for word to write or type later, or just write them all down during the chanelling? Or even record the event by speaking into a recording device?
All valid questions, as it could prove that she definitely lying by without having to wait.
Where I said 2 msgs above “Does not apply” means “Does that not apply”
a typo.
I found this site while searching for the Oct 14th prediction. Initially I was very excited to converse with people interested in UFO’s but the running KJ John show became boring and completely off message. Maybe I’ll try back later.
With kj it’s about preaching his ideals as a nice set of facts, it’s not him giving his opinion on something, and accepting it could be wrong. That’s why he’s being called extremist I would think. He says he’s absolutely right and has years of experience in spirituality, yet he can’t put together a complete picture of what he’s claiming as far as I can see. He disregards everything scientific even though scientists works science fields have years of experience (the same as what kj is claiming to have) and scientists have written thousands of books and papers on what they’ve discovered or proven. The complete opposite is said for kj and he doesn’t put together any kind of real reasoning for his way of thinking, apart from this is what i think is the truth from what my head tells me so I must be right. That surely doesn’t strike me as someone who has any sense of commonality with others on here, or someone who can clearly make out the difference between reality and dream worlds.
KJ WHAT AN EVIL MEAN SPIRITED MAN YOU ARE!
first of all I have never taken drugs, I never said I was without sin, I also do not live in fantasy world, I work at a hospital emergency room and see pain, suffering, death etc everyday. As for a star trek nut, I suppose you NEVER watched a show for fun and entertainment! MY fellow star trek friends have hosted several fund raisers for, the American Heart Assoc, The Kidney Foundation, The Children’s Science Museum, Red Cross, The Animal Rescue Foundation, The Homeless, MS and The US Vets and a few local groups, what have you done for our fellow man? So WHAT have you done for the less fortunate then you? Berate them because they weren’t as wonderful as you?
Also don’t preach to me your bible quotes, I have read and studied the bible repeately, and I know that there are several people out there that pick and choose parts of the bible to suit their needs and bias remarks.(like you)
Where do you get off saying to me that my lifestyle brings on hiv, abortion, or murder?
I have never subscribed to any of the above, I don’t whore around as you suggest I am in a stable 15 yr relationship that was blessed by God.
I am a Born Again Christian and a Minister so I never said that persons should not spread the good word what I said is if a person such as you continue to spout such venom and horrible comments to people on this board you will turn all potential Christians away from God/Jesus out of fear of becoming like you because you claim to walk in His footsteps. And these people will be afraid that becoming a Christian or follower of Jesus Christ will turn them into a bitter, unhappy, very aggressive person who likes to taunt, say totally unkind things to others and act more and more like a raving lunatic then a God fearing, Loving, Compassionate person that God asks us to be.
Back off, get lost, find another site to hurl your insults and look into your self and see why you take such pleasure in hurting others feelings, causing pain and anger to flare in ones heart and being down right mean!
Paul thank you for your explanation of KJ. No problems with John other than his responding to him, after a point it became too much. And Motherpann I had enjoyed your posts. Could everyone just ignore him? Don’t respond and maybe he will just go away. I had got to the point I was just skipping over the soap boxing only to find no one else leaving a post. He sounds like someone who’s been asked to leave other forums in the past. Let him go, please.
@ Paul
Let me clarify, It is not about MY opinion that is not what my job is about. Everyone can have an opinion for Pete’s sake. I am representing what I am called for. According to Paul I can not do such things ? Sorry that it does not fit in some peoples books or convictions.
@ Janine,
Clear off yourself, Janine, I have not been on any forum ever then this one. I just do this because I am here to learn something what keeps people busy about UFO and Aliens and what is going on in their minds.
@ Motherpann,
You said: And these people will be afraid that becoming a Christian or follower of Jesus Christ will turn them into a bitter, unhappy, very aggressive person who likes to taunt, say totally unkind things to others and act more and more like a raving lunatic then a God fearing, Loving, Compassionate person that God asks us to be.
Rubbish Motherpann. I never said any unkind things to others. You deliberately are here to twist that for as far as I can see this. If I can’t see it as it is where have we landed.
The only thing I can agree with you is: God fearing, Loving, Compassionate person. So I am, looking after the fatherless, the widows, the widowers, the poor, the disabled, etc etc. You have not read that did you in my former posts. You deliberately skip over that, so you can attack me on my directness about matters.
What I am against is your warped like the speed of light convictions about what I wrote above in the former post and what you said. If it is biting you in the butt, then stop whinging, grow up and do something amazing today, this sunday or next week.
Wut’s going on here.
@ MotherPann,
You said: “Where do you get off saying to me that my lifestyle brings on hiv, abortion, or murder?
I have never subscribed to any of the above, I don’t whore around as you suggest I am in a stable 15 yr relationship that was blessed by God.”
I never said that you were whoring around ? Where did that come from ? Did anyone see me writing this ?
You said: “I am a Born Again Christian and a Minister so I never said that persons should not spread the good word what I said is if a person such as you continue to spout such venom and horrible comments to people on this board you will turn all potential Christians away from God/Jesus out of fear of becoming like you because you claim to walk in His footsteps.”
You are a born again christian ?
You said:ALSO: I too believe that Mars is part of our past. The story of Creation (sorry to any Christians) sounds more like beings terriforming earth, just like we are wanting to do on the moon and Mars now. And if you check out webpages with ufos and ancient art you see “saucer” like objects in art that was painted hundreds of years ago, that involves Jesus and Mary and other Holy subjects.
Are you out of your mind ? Have you lost any accountability ? To me you have. Minister ? My foot ! Since when does the bible teach about women ministers ?
1 Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
I have no problem of a women teaching the scriptures, but under the authority of a MAN. Don’t come with the nonsense that Paul was a woman hater, because he was not.
I guess all the women are deliberately skipping over this for the sake of usurping man’s authority. Because many men have become backboneless milktoast individuals in church and do not what God has asked them to do. Instead they are running the show with regulations, meetings with programs and feel good issues. Instead of preaching the Word unadulterated and with authority.
Why you think Adam was created first huh ? Why do you think Eve was created as a helpmeet and nothing else. She usurped the man’s authority because she listened to Satan the serpent in the Tree.
Many ministers are the same, they listen to the Serpent instead of the Holy Spirit and cough out a lukewarm, warm to the feeling message with no Authority whatsoever.
Adam was and is the Prophet and Priest of his household. God gave him authority and power. He lost it by his stupidness to listen to his wife and the wife blamed the devil. Everything except accountability is the result of the world in their present state. In which the scientist are so proud of how they can take a stab at God’s sovereignty.
Since when does the Word have it’s own interpretations ? Motherpann, Under who’s authority you have been made minister of the cloth ? The Scientology Church, the Jehovah’s Witness, Your own space invaders church ? Or your local house meeting cellgroup ?
@ Motherpann,
This belongs to the former post to Motherpann,
You think because of a time such a this we have to reinterpret the bible messages our way as we see fit ? You gotta be joking me.
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
And ofcourse I can tell you this, because you say you have studied the bible, but I don’t think so, because otherwise you would apply what it was said there. Instead you water down the message.
You are saying, I can’t say it as it is ? What you want me to do for the job that I am called for to do since birth ? Gloss it over ? Paint it with UFO’s ? Are you mad ? Anybody could have added these things on a later date. Have you investigated the paintings, did you look up close when and who made them ? Are they verified by art collectors as genuine. There is tons of fraud in the art world and sold as if. And you are gullible and go with it. Where is it in the bible ? I think you are lost in translation. Nowhere in the Hebrew, Arameic or Greek it is written about UFO’s. You are merely a lost puppy then a minister.
And if you want to stay within the covers of the bible then stop telling me I can’t tell you any rebuke out of it. It is applicable to me and anyone else is. To obey it is another story. To obey is better than sacrifice.
I know you want me off this forum board, so you can spout your drivel that you have watered down instead of preaching the pure and true gospel unadulterated.
One word, you are a Disgrace for to represent The Lord Jesus Christ. And you call yourself a minister ?
You said: “first of all I have never taken drugs, I never said I was without sin, I also do not live in fantasy world,”
Oh yes you did, I am 100% sure you have taken drugs, even if it is a paracetamol or anything else the doctor has prescribed you in the past.
LIAR !
Leviticus 19:11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.
Yet you did, Minister !
It is a few times now I have caught you into this. Stop living in denial about yourself, hypocrite. You are just as corrupted like anyone else is.
To Motherpann,
This is connected with the former messages.
You said: “MY fellow Star Trek friends have hosted several fund raisers for, the American Heart Assoc, The Kidney Foundation, The Children’s Science Museum, Red Cross, The Animal Rescue Foundation, The Homeless, MS and The US Vets and a few local groups, what have you done for our fellow man? So WHAT have you done for the less fortunate then you? Berate them because they weren’t as wonderful as you?”
Am I here to brag about what I am doing for humanity, but since you want to know about this. I am a father to the fatherless, a friend to the bereaved, a healing bringer to the diseased, a deliverer in the power of God for the oppressed, a feeder of the hungry, a blessing to the poor, a helpmeet to those who need a hand and overseer of those who need my advice, solution and direction. And yet you feel you have to provide all what you are doing with others. All the above will not get me into heaven.
Has the bible not taught you, Let not your left hand know what your right hand is doing ? Boaster !
2 Corinthians 10:16 To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man’s line of things made ready to our hand.
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
kj originally asks what others are doing for the poor and less fortunate, and claims he is doing much more. KJ then fails to tell us what he does except for bible reading to others. Kj says he helps the diseased, how? He’s not a doctor, doesn’t agree that charity is any help, so what does he do apart from telling them about god? Then someone else describes how they “do” actually help the unfortunate, and instead of giving them praise, he says they should have done more, and then recites from the bible that he cherishes so much. Which is supposed to mean what? That Kj is insane is about the only conclusion from all of this.
kj said to paul “Let me clarify, It is not about MY opinion that is not what my job is about.”
Your opinion is what you’re typing on here, and it is your responsibility to persuade us that you have the absolute truth.
“Everyone can have an opinion for Pete’s sake. I am representing what I am called for. According to Paul I can not do such things ? Sorry that it does not fit in some peoples books or convictions. ”
OK so you’re saying your opinion alone is worth more than others. Why is that? How did this calling begin? Can you actually give us any hard facts to demonstrate this calling that you so perceive?
That’s your downfall, you either fail at your job or your job is not as it seems. Try not to argue about parts of history for example, that you don’t even understand. It’s too easy just to write a couple of sentences that only takes a few seconds to think of to completely discredit you. Why didn’t your god give this “calling” to someone who could put their point across more meaningfully? Or shall we go into how non-perfect this god you believe in may actually be, and does that even fit into the description of a god? Arguable that disproves your gods supreme abilities, if we are to assume you are getting gods word transmitted to your brain. But I don’t think we even need to go that far as assuming that to just ignore your claims.
Kj you are so out of order with everyone you talk to, it’s almost unbelievable. You attack absolutely everyone.
where you said “I have never subscribed to any of the above, I don’t whore around as you suggest I am in a stable 15 yr relationship that was blessed by God.”
There are poor African girls who get HIV from being raped, and for someone who tries to help the unfortunate, you insult these poor people by calling them all whores.
I would hate to have to meet anyone like you in real life, as if you behaved like you do on here you’d deserve a smack in the face.
kj said to motherpann “Adam was and is the Prophet and Priest of his household. God gave him authority and power. He lost it by his stupidness to listen to his wife and the wife blamed the devil.”
Why is everything so simple to you, that it can be explained in a few sentences. Life is more complicated than he/she did this, god punished them, etc etc. The reason why I say this is because nobody understands everything, not even a small percentage of everything. Therefore life, the universe and everything will be exponentially more complex than you or I can imagine.
“Everything except accountability is the result of the world in their present state. In which the scientist are so proud of how they can take a stab at God’s sovereignty.”
Scientists don’t even care about beliefs as it’s not part of science. Nobody cares about your basic viewpoints, especially not scientists. They would all laugh at your incompetence!
Kj is not even made for this kind of discussion, he can’t even take that janine who entered this forum, and disagreed with his attitude towards others. Why would god chose someone as inept as kj? It’s a relevant question amongst many others… no doubt kj will respond by attacking my character and my spirituality, or even just take something out of context as usual.
the idiot said “You think because of a time such a this we have to reinterpret the bible messages our way as we see fit ? You gotta be joking me.”
Your interpretation is no more than motherpann’s interpretation. A lesson in humility is required for you.
“And ofcourse I can tell you this, because you say you have studied the bible, but I don’t think so, because otherwise you would apply what it was said there. Instead you water down the message.”
A valid point is that you interpret incorrectly as well. Ooooh no, you can’t do that can you?! Since when have you shown yourself to be so perfect by your comments here, you can’t even use proper grammar, never mind interpret a book properly. And don’t try and turn this back towards me, I’m not claiming perfection, this is all about YOU!
“You are saying, I can’t say it as it is ? What you want me to do for the job that I am called for to do since birth ?”
Nobody told you not to say what you think, but accepting you could be wrong is part of being human.
“Gloss it over ? Paint it with UFO’s ?”
UFOs have nothing to do with religion in the present day. Maybe ufos were around during ancient times when religion was the major power in the world, and so they somehow got integrated. Maybe aliens are who people mistook for gods. All of these are equally or argubly more likely than any of your claims.
“Are you mad ?”
No, only you are mad out of the entire blog.
“Anybody could have added these things on a later date. Have you investigated the paintings, did you look up close when and who made them ? Are they verified by art collectors as genuine.”
So now you understand critical thinking and you begin to use it. And you understand that if paintings may not be geniune, then the bible may not be genuine, and may just be a collection of stories written by man. If you think humans will have purposely altered a painting, why not a holy book. We have proof of the muslim holy book being altered over time, so why not the bible?
“There is tons of fraud in the art world and sold as if. And you are gullible and go with it. Where is it in the bible ? I think you are lost in translation.”
Fraud is prevalent worldwide, even on this forum by people such as yourself. I call you a fraud as you’re misrepresenting facts, and trying to use them to your advantage to gain worshippers.
“Nowhere in the Hebrew, Arameic or Greek it is written about UFO’s. You are merely a lost puppy then a minister.
Who wants to be minister, there’s much more exciting ways to help people where you know you are helping people, rather than just believing that you are helping anyone.
It doesn’t matter whether UFOs are or aren’t mentioned in ancient history, we have so much gained knowledge just from the past decade, never mind the past 60 years where the gained knowledge is much larger than all of your bibles printed a thousand times.
“I know you want me off this forum board, so you can spout your drivel that you have watered down instead of preaching the pure and true gospel unadulterated.”
Everyone wants you to go, save us time having to reply as if we left your msgs as the last one’s visitors would think this entire site is full of extremists like you. And that would deter them from coming back, so actually we’re doing the owners and mods of this website a favour, otherwise they might have to ban you altogether.
“One word, you are a Disgrace for to represent The Lord Jesus Christ. And you call yourself a minister ?”
You are an extremist kj who attacks anyone who slightly disagrees. The person you attacked here “motherpann” doesn’t go about trying to harm anyone from what I can see, so that person is a better minister than you, assuming that’s what they are.
kj said to motherpann “Oh yes you did, I am 100% sure you have taken drugs, even if it is a paracetamol or anything else the doctor has prescribed you in the past.”
If you have to argue about not taking drugs, what kind of inner morality do you actually have? Just by arguing about this makes you less of a good person than someone who acknowledge they’ve “sinned” or whatever you wanna’ call it, and then live the rest of their life as a good person. People can do things which are bad, including drugs, but if they realise how much it has been destroying them, and they change, then any watching god would appreciate that and so wouldn’t be as judgemental as certain silly human beings are. Are all isn’t the god you believe in all knowing, therefore he knows if someone really regrets past demeanours.
kj said to motherpann “It is a few times now I have caught you into this. Stop living in denial about yourself, hypocrite. You are just as corrupted like anyone else is.”
KJ, you don’t even understand what being a hypocrite is, I’ve explained several times where you’ve been hypocritical. KJ you deny your blatent insanity, and your inability to persuade anyone of your calling only further propagates your ineptitude, or proves you have corrupt methods of indoctrination.
I’ve seen it and dunno what to make of it. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens on the day. If the UFO is there for 3 days then it will be on every news channel all over the world and there should be plenty of film coverage of the UFO. If it is a farce then whoever created the hype needs to get a life!!
They might be getting a rich life if she sells a lot of books, makes some excuse why they didn’t show up she could keep this going for years. But I’m confident this could be first contact and disclosure, it’s not how I expected it to happen, but when does anything happen in an expected fashion. Ufo witnesses are all expecting disclosure at some point in the near future, but it’s the right thing to be sceptical of this whole October 14th event.
your opinion is irrational kj, and so could not possibly be the truth. That sums you up entirely.
Bush Will Stay in Office for 3 1/2 years ~ He may appoint Palin to replace Chenny and there may still be elections ~ But they will never be sworn in as Bush is predestined from the foundation of the world to remain in office for 42 additional months ~ Revelation 13;5 ~ EVERY United States President has had this ability since 1973 when following the Cuban Missle Crisis the U.S. Congress passed the Emergency Management Act which any President may enact when they deem it to be a National Emergency ~ Congress and the U.S. Constitution can be suspended at any moment without ANYONE giving the President ‘permission’ ~ Peyote ~
All because of visiting ships in the sky?
Or do you mean they have an agenda to prevent disclosure and so that will happen before any possible disclosure can happen?
we’ll see in 3 days my friends, I neither doubt the people who believe this UFO appearance, nor do I believe it will appear, I attack no one, but only time will tell. Whatever happens, happens, open your mind though, don’t accept anything without thought.
@ John,
where you said “I have never subscribed to any of the above, I don’t whore around as you suggest I am in a stable 15 yr relationship that was blessed by God.”
John, if you read it properly, I never said this quote, this was been said by Motherpann.
Oh well. On top of it you want to get violent as well about it to me what I never said.
Great Blog, Humans.
Alien nations consider Humans a dangerous species. Not only what we can do to the aliens, but what we do to each other.
The earth is a global Insane Asylum where all the inmates have guns. Just read the above blog for confirmation.
There are alot of humans who would like to get off this 3rd. rock from the sun. There has to be something better out there.
Live in love, live in the light.
@ John,
For other readers to make up their mind. There is another post on here Religion and Aliens.
This is the first time I have entered a blog just for the sake of understanding what people who find UFOlogy and other things important to argue over.
I have entered in some discussion with some people regarding this, because I thought they have lost the way somewhere along their thought processes. I was of thought, maybe I should address that from my point of view, which are shared by also millions of other people in area where I exercise my job into.
However I have constantly seen that on the other blogs there are the same type of people who argue with other people in the same way they do with me. As I said, Religion and Aliens for example. I just discovered that one yesterday. And lo and behold I have never been there before until yesterday.
Now watch this: The same people who are here, like John, Motherpann and some others are there. They use the same guerilla tactics to undermine other peoples opinions and lifestyles. Same this is for twisting of posts that others write. How coincidental is it not ?
The same way they go there against people as they do very likely everywhere they leave a trace of their heresies and aggression.
Whatever reason they have for it, it is not in the name of peace but for creating discord within.
This is driven by spirits. Spirits that speak through their minds and translate this into their typing. They are not aware of this because they are overcome by their tactics.
The fact shows that for example John wants to smack me in the face for something that another forum guest said, says enough of the state of his confused mind. When they can’t win the argument, they start to use violence and aggression as a resort.
It only confirms their real problem they actually have. I thank God for be able to point this out by distinguishing of the spirits they are harboring. They need to be set free from all of this.
Agrees totally and completely with GreenEydjim post. Thanks for showing your both feet on this earth. You make sense to me and millions of others.
It is sad that people keep looking out for escapism that never will be materialized, yet still will go on for the sake to keep the deception true.
It would be wonderful, if we could put all these people on an island and stay together without any means of communication ever in their lifetime to their outside world, so that they stop harming people with their fantasies.
@ Beetee
If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out of it. Sadly this is the case for many with no rationality like Paul is implying regarding others in his deceived mind full of confusion.
@ John,
“Fraud is prevalent worldwide, even on this forum by people such as yourself. I call you a fraud as you’re misrepresenting facts, and trying to use them to your advantage to gain worshippers.”
What facts have I misrepresented ? The Word of God, the Highest Standard and Absolute Truth that someone can live up to and apply for every single person on this world alive without resorting to violence of self-interpretation ? You call this fraud ?
What advantage do I use ? Do you think I am throwing people magical peanuts, so they can worship me for the gift of it ? Your assumptions are ungrounded, biased, twisted, corrupt, negative, false and erratic and above all deranged. And here goes. I have no interest people worshipping me. The bible teaches me and others who want to obey: Exalt the LORD our God, and worship at his holy hill; for the LORD our God is holy.
I don’t know about you, but I never read my ID KJ in there was it now ?
You know what ? John. I am willing to meet you up on University Campus wherever that might be. We can organize in front of all the Dr’s and Professors you have as a mentor and your co-students who are teaching you and you can smack me right in the face for things I never said, but by others for example by Motherpann. How about it ? You call it, big shot.
Oh, and don’t forget to bring the newspapers around from the UK, and the shrinks and counselors from University as well, they might find in you a interesting case of your distorted mind.
But what if it is correct? on the 14 october we will all know, and eather will this channeler be the most visited, and all books be sold out, or it will be prity hard for anybody to take the next channeling serious. Remember be like children OPEN to what if.
OMG
I HOPE THEY REALLY LAND!!!
I’ve always wanted to meet and Alien :]
well… really an Irkin Invader.
Like ZIM!!!
Maybe i’ll finally find some one like Dib
and we’l live happyily ever after together!
:3
Love, Invader Stella
Nuke them or Alabama anyway.
OK KJ I’ve had enough of arguing. It’s time to wrap this minor discussion on the grand scheme of things, which you think actually matters, and just get to the point with what I wish to question you about.
Have you seen god with your own eyes?
I have seen a ufo with my own eyes. There’s the contrast between both of us.
oh and if you can’t quote someone properly kj how are we supposed to know what you said and what was quoted. Go learn some proper methods of displaying text in a correct manner. And yes in English
Because that would be blaming others for your incompetence, and that’s not the right way of going about things.
Yes, if you have seen Jesus you have seen God and I have seen and spoken to Him and I still do. But I guess you just don’t believe me, because you are not taking me serious. Which is ok.
And I have seen and met angels.
kj said “They use the same guerilla tactics to undermine other peoples opinions and lifestyles.”
You can live and believe what you like, that’s got nothing to do with anyone, but don’t call faith anything than more faith is defined as. I don’t see the word “fact” in the definition of faith, so go figure.
kj said “The fact shows that for example John wants to smack me in the face for something that another forum guest said, says enough of the state of his confused mind. When they can’t win the argument, they start to use violence and aggression as a resort.”
There is no argument standing point for you, except your opinion is valid as an opinion, and that’s all. It’s is not confirmed to be absolute truth, that is what we all have be telling to you, and you never seem to get this one point. I’m not confused, I see tremendous potential in humanity, and I feel a turning point will cause most of us to understand spiritually to evolve. I haven’t actually hit you, so you jump the gun on aggression. Actually it’s just a threat or insult, the same as what you have been doing, and so no worse. I agree with anyone who thinks this bickering is silly, but I think a lot more people would smack you than not smack you if you went up to them and persisted with your indoctrination processes in a face-to-face approach.
“It only confirms their real problem they actually have.”
For a start I don’t claim to be perfect with absolute knowledge of everything, so why wouldn’t I have imperfections. Have some humility yourself, and you will feel the better for it!
“I thank God for be able to point this out by distinguishing of the spirits they are harboring. They need to be set free from all of this.”
Go back to watching the exorcist and dream on!
kj said “It is sad that people keep looking out for escapism that never will be materialized, yet still will go on for the sake to keep the deception true.”
So your beliefs which require leaps of faith is impossible to be escapism from reality?! Admit your own potential flaws and be a man, and not a gullible fool. Ufos may not be aliens, so I’m hardly trying to escape to a false reality, as I have an open and sceptical mind about everything.
kj said “It would be wonderful, if we could put all these people on an island and stay together without any means of communication ever in their lifetime to their outside world, so that they stop harming people with their fantasies. ”
That’s funny, so many have said the same about religious people. Do you see the similarities that people perceive for all kinds of beliefs. I once said that about all muslims as a joke in a presentation, and everyone laughed and agreed.
kj said “If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out of it. Sadly this is the case for many with no rationality like Paul is implying regarding others in his deceived mind full of confusion. ”
How can anyone who has such a strong faith he believes a story book word for word call anyone else too open minded? You are beyond beggars belief.
kj said “What facts have I misrepresented ? … You call this fraud ?”
The point is you don’t represent any facts, and so call them facts anyway. That is fraudalent. Shall I make up that Europa has life underneath it’s oceans and claim to know this, and even if I’ve guessed right, guessing by coincidence to try and gain an advantage over others is fraudalent methods. It’s lucky people can determine these frauds quite easily. You are picking on people’s gullibility to sell your ideas in whatever format you do for a living. The same as Blossom Goodchild if she’s lying too. Oh I bet you like being associated with her, that must really get to you!
kj said “I am willing to meet you up on University Campus wherever that might be. ”
Do you actually think you’re worth anymore than 5 mins of my time on here, and that’s stretching it anyway. Where did I say I would meet you for an argument or fight? Nowhere… understand a figure of speech when it’s in front of you. I would never wish to seek out aggression with idiots like you, but if that kind of person sought out aggression then I would defend myself completely! But if you wish to be so stupid as to do something like that, then fine you can accept your own consequences.
When you said that you just proved how much of a nutter you are, and you’re not at all a good religious person as you like to claim you are. Actually you are a complete psycho who looks for a fight over beliefs. Oh look you’re living proof of how some religions are so backwards that they do things like that, and they do start wars in some circumstances. I would never give any personal infomation out to you, and I hope others are watching and follow suit. kj, you remind me of a news story I read a short while back that involved a german seeking out an english person online just to murder him. Get some perspective with your life before your anger ever becomes that bad.
OK describe Jesus, and these angels. And were you awake, and what other conditions can you describe at those times?
Were these angels and jesus actually just an unidentified object in the sky, or a dream. Therefore they could be something else. Here’s where you show your bad logic.
@ John,
About my English. You are being pedantic now. You pretty well could write things back, that i have written in English. How come you can’t read it all of a sudden ? Apparently everyone could read it, but just you can’t right now is it ? Or are you admitting that you are misunderstanding me ? That would be a start to understand someone.
So this really BIG spacecraft shows up in our atmosphere on October 14. The species running this craft are obviously hundreds if not thousands of years more advanced than us in technology. They probably have weapons capable of turning a little planet like Earth into a crispy cinder in short order.
Which country on Earth do you think will be the first to do somethng really really stupid, like shooting at them?
Think about this.
@ John,
I see tremendous potential in humanity, and I feel a turning point will cause most of us to understand “spiritually” to evolve.
John, you don’t believe in a God, God is a spirit. How can you spiritually evolve ? Or even others to that effect ?
And yes, John, when you want to smack someone on the face for having a opinion and a lifestyle that nobody harms and is doing many millions, or even billions of mankind good when they would apply it exactly as it says in the Bible. I want to express apply it exactly as in the way “input” as in a computer, not as a robot or brainwashing. If you train and exercise you will get the results as you want it. Like muscles or technique. Nobody seems to have any problem with it, to run as fast as they can on the Olympic games. Everyone is jumping about a Olympic record. But if people start to twist it and interpret to their own ways you will get erratic behavior.
And if someone is trained in Hermaneutics and Theology and expresses that as a lifestyle, they are branded as a extremist ?
My responsibility as I see that I have vowed towards God is that I will tell or preach the Gospel in the best and excellent way as I can with His help. Nobody was here to say that I can’t make mistakes. I am human after all.
I have nothing against science, medication, astrophysics ((your field) etc etc. and other things that are in this world. What my problem is that science as a religion is replacing spiritual issues that I am teaching. It is visa versa. Because most scientific things are just human things brought forth out of another dimension. They were once spiritual, now they have been materialized in the natural.
As I have tried to explain to you into the other posts. Scientific truths are breakthroughs in the natural who were of spiritual origin. How to tap into that is not just sitting and thinking up an idea. Which is ok, because out of reason, knowledge etc etc, you can make something, but you still need faith to manifest it. Which means in here: You have to believe, you can do it and beyond that. That is why I said, progress is not always an advantage, while your opinion is, yes yes, it is so. Like making a pencil which is used to write on things to a speech controlled dictation program.
My personal experience that that is all nice and well, but does not make humans interact more powerful in the ethics of for e.g. Love, Compassion, Understanding, Kindness etc etc.
Therefore there are 2 kinds of faith. One if natural faith, which says, I can do it with the means that i have. Like Materials, tools, etc. etc.
The other Faith, which is superior to natural faith. Which does supernatural manifestations like healing, babies to be born in less than 30 seconds, without operation or contractions, impossible things like restoration of clogged arteries around a heart without operation or human intervention or science inventions.
Your are looking for evidence and facts. I understand this from a natural point of view, but I cannot and don’t have to explain a supernatural manifestation. Like the above issues I mention. Facts can be controlled and manipulated by humankind. Supernatural manifestations not.
Your way of thinking is controlling a fact. Change it, improve it, transform it.
Supernatural manifestations are perfect in manifestation and beyond science and facts.
I prefer Supernatural manifestations over science discoveries. Because science also makes victims in the process of certain applications.
Supernatural manifestations don’t. Unless people want to interpret as harmful.
Here you have some things to chew upon. Maybe you know already these things or not. But I believe that Humankind is better served with Supernatural manifestations then science.
@ John,
John said: When you said that you just proved how much of a nutter you are, and you’re not at all a good religious person as you like to claim you are. Actually you are a complete psycho who looks for a fight over beliefs.
Was it not you who wanted to smack me ? Now you want to pass it off as figure of speech. I just suggested if you feel that you needed to do that, then I was suggesting an arena where you can put the words to action. After all “smacking me in the face” was in this case not a fact then but a hoax in your words ? I was merely thinking in the trend of prove it to me that you can. Surely that was no rocket science either.
You said: OK describe Jesus, and these angels. And were you awake, and what other conditions can you describe at those times?
Awake.
Dark short hair, brown piercing eyes like flames, (Not the “stupid” blue eyed Jesus with long hair because he was a Jew of origin) Very high Supernatural Presence and Glory, difficult to stand in His presence, electrifying, wound holes in His wrists area. Very comforting personality and peaceful.
Angles, Tall beings, radiating and piercing eyes, clad in leather and unusual belts, boots, comforting words in deep sorrow and grieve, told me the future what was to come, extreme physical power and did things for me which I could not do by myself and disappeared in crowds very fast after tasks was fulfilled.
Flashing pictures about situations, dreams, visions, words, prophetic things over people, words of knowledge, miraculous things.
You said: kj, you remind me of a news story I read a short while back that involved a german seeking out an english person online just to murder him. Get some perspective with your life before your anger ever becomes that bad.
Now everyone becomes like that German is it now ? That is only developing in your head and fight and flight reactions of your chemical imbalances. May I remind you that you were the aggressor here, not me. I just wanted you to demonstrate it in front of the one’s who have you under tutelage. You are twisting it again to your advantage in the hope someone is watching this and takes your side. Are you always so manipulative ? This will not do. Try again, ok. When are you going to be responsible for your actions and sayings ?
And about anger ? I am almost comatose of peace when I read your threats, because I have seen this all before, Yawn.
@ John,
You were saying: “I would never give any personal infomation out to you, and I hope others are watching and follow suit.”
I would not care one zip about your personal information then shredding it through the paper-shredder in my office. And I think seeing or meeting you would seriously worry my family members, friends and, co-pastors and church-members since you already threatened me to “smack me” hence I was suggesting you do that under supervision of the authorities and your university professors and dr’s.
Just so you know, that website or “group” did not make the claim the a UFO will appear in the skies on October 14th. It was Blossom Goodchild who made this claim. She has nothing to do with the “Escape the Illusion” website. You need to get your facts straight before you are considered credible!
Stosh,
And Blossom Goodchild is credible ? By who’s standards ? The gullible people she is misleading and cashing in on attention-seeking, webcounter increase and writing a weirdo books for weirdo’s ? I will sit this one out and have a good belly laugh on 14, 15 and 16th of October 2008.
I would vote for a new website to be created. http://www.freakazoids.com the ultimate website for floating in the air lost puppies in the sky lookers. The more I think about it, the more I see it as a April fools day joke that is delayed.
When it is not happening, it will be all spiritualized away like so many do and get on deceiving people. It’s time they take away the “childrens” toys and re-educate them. I really think this is very harmful for unstable people.
I can read text speak, but it doesn’t mean it’s desirable to read on a forum. Does that make it clear to you?
kj said “John, you don’t believe in a God, God is a spirit. How can you spiritually evolve ? Or even others to that effect ? ”
That’s your view about having to believe in god to evolve, not mine.
“And yes, John, when you want to smack someone on the face for having a opinion and a lifestyle”
If lifestyles involve hassling people, all of that changes. No I didn’t say I wanted to do that, I said that if you hassled me in real life I would do that to defend myself from any one who behaved like a crazy man.
kj said “I have nothing against science, medication, astrophysics”
Nah, you only told me many times that it’s a waste of time, and that it would mean going to hell. LOL
You don’t give me any reason to think that science can’t explain what’s now considered supernatural at some point if the various supernatural powers exist.
“Facts can be controlled and manipulated by humankind.”
No, facts are what science discovers and are what they are. Nobody is manipulating anything. Are you suggesting they research all fields at once in order that particular fields don’t advance further than others? In an ideal world that would be possible, but with limited resources and researchers it’s not.
“Supernatural manifestations are perfect in manifestation and beyond science and facts.”
Nothing is beyond a fact if it exists. A factual statement describes what something does, how it works, etc. To describe proven supernatural manifestations would be called facts. Why do you misunderstand these terms so easily? Anything is either a fact, opinion, hypothesis or false.
“I prefer Supernatural manifestations over science discoveries. Because science also makes victims in the process of certain applications.”
Great you can prefer what you want, and I don’t disagree with you about that, especially with nuclear energy as an example of that. The problem with your supernatural powers is if you can’t use or display them there’s no application – good or bad.
“Here you have some things to chew upon. Maybe you know already these things or not. But I believe that Humankind is better served with Supernatural manifestations then science.”
Like what, reading a bible to some sick person that dies, where a doctor could save them. Give me some real examples if you wanna’ convince someone of that.
Where do you stand on ghosts, and possessions of spirits good or evil?
you said “Dark short hair, brown piercing eyes like flames, (Not the “stupid” blue eyed Jesus with long hair…. …..wound holes in His wrists area. Very comforting personality and peaceful.”
I just saw Jesus and he has long hair which is gray, and he told me he’s half alien, half human. Sorry you must be wrong because he told me so. Now tell me why that argument is less valid than yours?
“Angles, Tall beings, radiating and piercing eyes, clad in leather and unusual belts, boots,.. …fast after tasks was fulfilled.”
What made you think they were angels? Could be anything you saw. Your interpretation of it made it seem like an angel. Maybe even an angel is just an et. So many questions you cannot answer!
“Flashing pictures about situations, dreams, visions, words, prophetic things over people, words of knowledge, miraculous things.”
OK prove you can see into the future by describing an event in detail and exact dates/times of this event.
you said “Now everyone becomes like that German is it now ? That is only developing in your head and fight and flight reactions of your chemical imbalances. May I remind you that you were the aggressor here, not me.”
Use quotes like “” so people can understand what you’re quoting.
Erm no. Why would I think everyone was like that. Your stalker behaviour by seeking out aggression is the link between you and that person. I didn’t say I wanted to smack you, only if some extremist like you approached me in real life, and to defend myself against their bible bashing.
“I just wanted you to demonstrate it in front of the one’s who have you under tutelage.”
Demonstate what? You don’t get it there never was any chance that I would wish aggression. The only thing you would demonstate in an event such as someone defending against your bible would be that you need locking up with the key throwing away!
“You are twisting it again to your advantage in the hope someone is watching this and takes your side.”
So I’m twisting things when my words mean word for word literally what I just said!
“Are you always so manipulative ? This will not do. Try again, ok. When are you going to be responsible for your actions and sayings ?”
Hehe, you are trying to manipulate the meanings to get points in your favour which obviously failed. Either you’re inept at doing that or you like messing up.
“And about anger ? I am almost comatose of peace when I read your threats, because I have seen this all before, Yawn.”
I didn’t threaten you in any way more than I would threaten a drug dealer by stating I would smack one if they came near me. Defending oneself is perfectly legal. Extremist = dangerous person to both themselves and others. And you happen to be one, amongst many that I hope never to meet.
you said “I would not care one zip about your personal information then shredding it through the paper-shredder in my office.”
Now where did I say I would send my details to you. Oh look, I said I would never send details to a loony like you. I doubt you would even provide much of an argument face-to-face.
“And I think seeing or meeting you would seriously worry my family members, friends and, co-pastors and church-members since you already threatened me to “smack me” hence I was suggesting you do that under supervision of the authorities and your university professors and dr’s.”
Why even write about that, it would never happen. I have never suggested otherwise. Of course if you or anyone were a stalker it would be unwise to do that kind of thing, and as I described earlier it’s perfectly fine to defend yourself from extremism and crime.
Here’s what I said earlier to which kj accuses me of wanting to attack him: “I think a lot more people would smack you than not smack you if you went up to them and persisted with your indoctrination processes in a face-to-face approach.”
As everyone can see I never asked to meet this person, yet he persists several times to imply that I do. It’s purely a defensive stance as I say if someone like him, hence an extremist approached me, (not sought out by me). If that isn’t a sign of a stalker, then I don’t know what is!
Regarding Channeling:
My experience with channeled information is this. I do believe that there is a channeling going on. Information is flowing through one being from an UNKOWN source. Often this UNKNOWN source identifies themselves as some great knowing high being(s), such as a “federation” or an “arch angel” and gives themselves lofty names. My experience is that the UNKNOWN source is just that…UNKNOWN. There are many mischievous spirits who will play games with you. The October 14 phenomenon could be real, but I think it’s a big other-worldly JOKE.
Truly high-minded extra-terrestrials would follow cosmic law, which states that you do not interfere in the will of others. This October 14 phenemenon is presented as a type of “intervention.” This does not fit cosmic law. Thus, I say it is a channeled hoax, or if a ship does appear, I don’t believe they are here for the sake of LOVE.
These are the uneducated dribblings of a woman, post menapause.
We used to call these old ducks “witches”
I have read her so called channellings , and it reminds me of listening to some brain dead old fart on a bus… i wanted to stick a pen in my arm!!!!!!!!!!!
good laugh tomorrow
The message has a major flaw/contradiction in that they mention they’ve prepared for this trip for eons. But the purpose of the trip is to save us from ourselves and those who are destroying the planet. Eons ago we didnt even exist. So either (1) they lie, and have not been preparing for eons. (2) They have been preparing for eons but for another reason as humans didnt exist eons ago. Or (3) THey’re full of sh**
Look at the korea article
below link (article and UFO clips)
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=102&oid=081&aid=0001977286
Today we saw that (2008.October 13,,, 5pm korea time)
@ John,
You know what the problem is with John ? Simple he just collects an amount of information and data that is crazy enough to let him be eligible and enter into the lunatic asylum without a doubt.
How could anyone approach someone like that even to wonder when the heat is turned up regarding his own lopsided view of life not denigrate to aggression or even murder.
When you make remarks “I would hate to have to meet anyone like you in real life, as if you behaved like you do on here you’d deserve a smack in the face.”
In order to bring weight into the conversation he draws innocent bystanders in his debate in the hope they will join his lunacy.
The Law in the UK says: If any person that is premeditating and instigating a unlawful action in the form of attack suggesting, this is categorized as “premeditated assault”. We can easily see here that this is the trend of his conversations not to debate matters at hand but to create a atmosphere of hate in where he is challenging his opponent with reverse psychology and aggravate a person. Again this belong under the UK Law as Aggravating Damage with Premeditation to attempt to harm an individual which who he is disagreeing about a topic.
The passing off as “figure of speech” will not do, because in America people sue people for less intimidation like that.
It is sad that on a forum like this it had to come to this. I entered to share my views on matters about UFO’s, Aliens and my spiritual path what my life is existing of.
I apologize to my fellow forum members that people like John are such mean spirited people when they can’t win the argument in discussion they resort to violence and threats in real life.
Therefore, I think it is better for the interest of other members here not to discuss matters in any way or form with John of his points of view, because you might end up physically damaged in the process of a challenge that he does not comprehend like some people have expressed here, which he passes off as extremist. He says this because he cannot extend his mind beyond textbook teachings and facts.
I am really sorry that all of you have to go through these evil surmisings which he expresses to many of you and blatantly planned and premeditated discussions to draw out a worse outcome then he possible can imagine by himself without being pointed out to him how much lacks this. Could he be a new Jeffrey Dahmer in the making ? A man that is intended to abduct people online to drill holes in our skulls and pour acid into our brains to see what the result is.
Any professional health practitioner would agree with me and can see he suffers from:
Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder
While Obsessive-Compulsive personality disorder (OCDP) sounds similar in name to obsessive-compulsive anxiety disorder, the two are markedly different disorders. People with obsessive-compulsive personality disorder are overly focused on orderliness and perfection. Their need to do everything “right” and being “right” often interferes with their productivity and idealism. They tend to get caught up in the details and scrutinize it to shreds and miss the bigger picture or even what others are saying. They set unreasonably high standards for themselves and especially for others, and tend to be very critical of others when they do not live up to these high standards they think they have acquired in their way of life. They avoid working in teams, believing others to be too careless, stupid or incompetent. They avoid making decisions because they fear making mistakes and are rarely generous with their time or money regarding others. They often have difficulty expressing emotion because of being a textbook personality as their standard in science and knowledge.
Symptoms of Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder:
- Need for perfection and excessive discipline
- Preoccupation with orderliness
- Inflexibility
- Lack of generosity
- Hyper-focus on details and rules
- Excessive devotion to work and in his case science as the way out of life
- Requires excessive praise and admiration from others
- Takes advantage of others
- Grandiose sense of self-importance
- Lack of empathy
- Lying, to self and others
- Obsessed with fantasies of fame, power, or beauty from elsewhere
- Disregard for the feelings of others
- Impulsive and irresponsible decision-making at the expense of others in debate
- Lack of remorse for harm done to others, expressed as well as practiced
@KJ @John
Please get a motel room.
Both of you go inside and lock the door.
Do not let any of us know what happened.
Thankyou.
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Current Time Tuesday, 14 October 2008, 00:56:39 EDT
Anyone in ozz. can you clarify a large space ship above your heads?
Ref october 14 already here in ozzzzzzz
apart from Blossom of course!!
Just so you know, the “Escape the Illusion” group or website has nothing to do with Blossom Goodchild’s prediction! Blossom Goodchild was the person who made this claim, not “Escape the Illusion.” You need to get your story straight before you are considered credible!!
Lol Billy boon looks like an alien himself
It may be another trap by Satan’s army.
This may be a trap if announcements are made by the contacts during such an event that include “saving mankind from evil”.
There is only one savior.
It may also be a hologram projected (project bluebeam??) by the same group of Satan worshipers (power elite).
What if the “mediums” (like myself) are contacted by a source that is of human origin and not ET.
1. Keep mankind in the dark about extraterrestrials and universal technology.
2. Create a new controlled savior that will be an acceptable hope for change and freedom. One with amazing abilities and kindness.
2. Plant information to the public threw mediums about the new savior threw HAARP methods.
3. Generate an event on such a grand scale to gain the attention of the whole world.
4. Pull the followers (90% of humans) into a deep state of obedience and unity.
5. Mark everyone who joins and allow them to live and thrive under the New World (Roman) Order.
Really… what if ETs really have nothing much to do with this event tomorrow?
Contact me if you want to discuses my theories.
I’ll be activating a new website soon that will attempt to clear the spam from wannabes so we can all get back to the goal. Logically determining the truth.
Thanks, Justin Lee Grams
grams79.com
It may be another trap by Satan’s army.
This may be a trap if announcements are made by the contacts during such an event that include “saving mankind from evil”.
There is only one savior.
It may also be a hologram projected (project bluebeam??) by the same group of Satan worshipers (power elite).
What if the “mediums” (like myself) are contacted by a source that is of human origin and not ET.
1. Keep mankind in the dark about extraterrestrials and universal technology.
2. Create a new controlled savior that will be an acceptable hope for change and freedom. One with amazing abilities and kindness.
2. Plant information to the public threw mediums about the new savior threw HAARP methods.
3. Generate an event on such a grand scale to gain the attention of the whole world.
4. Pull the followers (90% of humans) into a deep state of obedience and unity.
5. Mark everyone who joins and allow them to live and thrive under the New World (Roman) Order.
Really… what if ETs really have nothing much to do with this event tomorrow?
Contact me if you want to discuses my theories.
I’ll be activating a new website soon that will attempt to clear the spam from wannabes so we can all get back to the goal. Logically determining the truth.
Thanks, Justin Lee Grams
grams79.com
3.33am here in Sydney, Australia. East coast. Going to have a look, as I always do b4 bed. Saw two small craft at this time yesterday.
just remember to pay attention to your body and how it feels. if these visual and audible manifestations do occur, keep in mind that “H.A.R.P.” is a massive array and will most likely affect other organs in the body other then the brain. this, specifically, the areas of the intestines as they are extremely sensitive to very low frequency waves.
so when it happens and you start s***ing bricks, its not out of fear but rather giant antennae built by a government to implement a series of controlled happenings to tighten their hold on the masses. that of course in the absence of Divinity or E.T. either, or, stay clear of chili until November at least.
-hold fast-
Nothing is happening. Just another hoax by the GFL
A lot of the channelers have gotten recognition for solving cases for the police. That’s official. The thing is some feel something happening tomorrow (today), and some don’t. I for one, do not feel anything significant. I am more afraid of the weakening magnetic field. That’s all.
jesus gives it to me up the anal
i love god so much i let him fart on my face
The above counterfeit KJ’s ID’s are not written by me. So somebody is doing childish jokes. Grow up !
Real or not tomorrow will tell. If there is a giant UFO great I would love to see it. Have never seen a UFO before, but I don’t think we are the only intelligent beings in the universe God help us if we are. If it doesn’t show those who say it was supposed to will just say not enough of us did not believe they would show. Right or wrong just wait those that say it will show will either be happy or sad because enough people didn’t believe and if it shows those who believe it wouldn’t will have to eat crow. As much as I would love to see it happen I don’t think too many people will be eating crow, but we will see tomorrow.
God Bless everyone
BB
i wish i was a turnip so i cud stick myself up god’s crack
Well folks, it seems that it is a full moon on the 14th of October as well. Anyone has any interest to bark up the moon yet ?
1 hour and 25 minutes to go for the UK to be 14th of October. Hilarious. They are not coming, guaranteed. Just believe me. You can better brush your shoes instead of looking up like a loony.
I am exercising for roaring belly laughs of the scam of the year hoax. Is this not enough that those channelers are a total hoax as well.
There is only one God that tells us the future and He is not telling this
through self appointed channelers, but through His true prophets.
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
True prophecy is not divination and that is taking place here with Blossom Goodchild. Beware !
1 Corinthians 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are SUBJECT to the prophets.
She is not a prophetess, nor does she have credibility to be one. She operates on her own and is not in a under a body that oversees her.
Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
She is not raised a prophet, she acquired the divination spirit as she was going along and under severe stress.
Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
It is not going to come to pass the 14th of October prediction. It’s a lie.
The spirit guide White Cloud that Blossom Goodchild is connected with is a demonic familiar spirit and uses her to speak deception through her. The folly of the people who are following her as a spokeswoman from the other side.
Question: “What are familiar spirits?” Let me explain.
Answer: The word familiar is from the Latin familiaris, meaning a “household servant,” and is intended to express the idea that sorcerers had spirits as their servants ready to obey their commands. Those attempting to contact the dead, even to this day, usually have some sort of spirit guide who communicates with them. These are familiar spirits.
Leviticus 19:31; 20:6, 27; and Deuteronomy 18:9-14 refer to “mediums and familiar spirits” and forbids being involved with them, as they are an abomination to the Lord. The medium was one who acted as a “go-between” to supposedly contact or communicate with the dead or spiritual world, but in reality they were contacting demonic entities who convinced the mediums that they were “familiar” and could be trusted and believed. The practices associated with mediums and familiar spirits were banned in Israel, and the punishment for practicing such things was death.
To this day, familiar spirits (demonic entities) are under the control of their master, Satan. They influence people to spread lies and deceit in order to thwart the kingdom of God. Knowingly opening oneself to the work of demons is an evil thing: “Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [a] fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12a).
Some avenues through which demonic entities, a.k.a. “familiar spirits,” can gain entrance into a person’s life are divination, transcendental meditation, visualization, channeling, necromancy, witchcraft, drugs, and alcohol. These are all activities that believers are exhorted, commanded even, to avoid. Instead, we are to be filled with the Holy Spirit, with love, with joy, and with the fullness of life that comes from Jesus Christ. We are also to be on guard, “for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” (Ephesians 6:12)
Therefore it is not going to happen.
Dark Intergalactic Federation made statement !!!
http://14october2008.net
i love my bible so much i sleep with it.
i’m scared the evil aliens are going to steal my precious god away, wahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
Above post is not mine and was never written by me, it is a ID Highjacker and scammer pretending to me.
Point is that I live by Faith. Poor ID highjackers, can’t come up with a better plan then ridicule and mock people who tell as it is. You can go on like that forever, nothing will happen tomorrow. It’s 0:10 am, nowhere we see a 2000 mile sized UFO. Ufologists, give it up, it is always and ever been a hoax. Please, get a life, go help poor people, feed them, be nice to them, help your neighbour, go help widows, widowers, the sick, the disabled, and less fortunate. You will have much more joy, happiness and blessing you have ever seen in your life.
It’s better to give then to take. I have never seen someone in need who keeps giving.
Bush had a lovely time with Berlusconi, playing together in the garden.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bush_inauguration_illuminati_hand_sign.htm
How can we be more deceived.
See what is really is coming to you !
Reality !
http://www.infowars.com/
Watch this prediction.
Stocks are up Big Deal! Once the Stock Market stabilizes then it will be time to pay the Piper. After trillions of dollars have been printed we will go through Hyper Inflation like you have never seen. It took four years in the first Great Depression for the economy to really tank. During the crash of 1929 there were ups and downs in the Stock Market and it took four years for unemployment to reach 25%. Bread will reach $5.00 a loaf in four years and gas will be $5.00 a gallon by next summer. Unemployment will reach 7% by January. The price on all the cheap trinkits that we get from China will double. The price of every thing will go up and wages will stagnate.
Where is that 2000 mile large UFO ? I am waiting for the News to tell us !!!!!
Mawhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
wow. lets see whos ranting when they show up tomorow. YOU GUNNA GET PONED
has anyone seen my marbles, where did i put my marbles?? Arghhh split personlity is killin’ me!!!!
Oh! I just saw it while I was reading this.
It’s just flew over everyones head.
Well the ones that had there heads into believing this, butt located head-likes.
Like if “we believe, we will be able to see the aliens, we, we, me, me, me, I, I, I…
Who the hell are you people that think if you wish upon a star you will become a real boy anyway?
Cartoons are cartoons and you should know that!
Mighty Mouse is so hansom? Oh come on!?
Stop the fantasy generated hysteria. PLEASE.
It’s ruins my need for reality in all this!
I’m not a dis-believer, but I am in people that buy into this hype! Light from the OtherSide!?!??! Give me a break.
If it’s going to happen.
Well I believe it will simply happen.
But Really, I believe it ain’t going to be from some dork(s) in Frezno all tryin’ to sell BOOKS!!?!= Dood!
FOR GOD SAKE PEOPLE!!??!
And, might I add, BOOKS that are just what you dorks need to hear. They got marketiers that know hwere to pull them strings, YOU ALL TOLD THEM WHERE THOSE STRINGS ARE!! You gave THEM the avenue to your hysteria!!
Ok I know, now I’m getting a little weird with this.
But it just pisses me off that some of you just buy into this crap.
I know most of you are searching, but search from what you know is ok about what you see with in your selves.
Don’t take the easy way out and lay back excepting some “groups” need for $$$ or ego minded acceptance.
Be why you are. See what you are. Feel why you are.
Free candy from a stranger, coaxing you to go from what you know best, what you were taught well, might be the way to go , if you weren’t taught better.
If it’s going to happen.
It simply happen.
It will just be.
LIGHTEN UP!
Let it rest, let this hystrera sleep.
Stop demanding to be about it.
It’s NOT ABOUT YOU!!!
Will you please Understand that!!?
It’s not about you!
It’s about us.
Oct. 14th, 1947
X-1 — First Piloted Flight to Break Sound Barrier
KJ, i respect your dedication to this page, thanks for keeping everyone aware. if it happens tomorrow that would be awesome, if not, oh well, maybe some other day. I hope the best of outcomes.
lol im just laughing my ass off here at the author and the hordes of sheep.
do you even know what UFOlogy stands for? “UNIDENTIFIED” flying object. Blossom Goodchild predicted and IDENTIFIED the flying object that will appear on october 14th.
very funny to see how pathetically desperate for attention some people are, and how butthurt they can get from their own silly ignorant baseless off topic beliefs.
UFOlogy is an ignorant science, and so are the ufologists behind it.
I got all excited a few months ago when they said they found a real big foot in Georgia. Not saying it wont happen, but a little skeptical.
Just watch the sky and do not move. It will come.
Well, its October 14, lets see -what- happens.
Oct 14 is here. Here goes, lol.
I (for one) welcome our alien overlords .
Hmmmm. Whilst I agree with what you are saying Billy, about giving ufology a bad name. My question is why would someone put their credibility on the line by making such a bold prediction. Although I suppose Blossom has the excuses ready for tomorrow.
You jus don’t get it do ya? It’s all tied in tgether. Aliens, The Illuminati, Big Foot, The Holy Ark of the Covenant, Noah’s Ark resting percuriously at the top of Mount Arat, The Holy Grail, The Merovingians, The Rothschilds, The Anti-Christ, Crystal Skulls, Reptillian Shapeshifters. It’s all tied together some how. But evan as a beliver when I read this back it does seem like a crock of poo. Oooh, I forgot Princess Diana and the Lock Ness Monster….
@ Beetee,
Thank you for your appreciation. It’s not about me. I am not important. I am just a little speck in the crowd that knows about things to come. Not in an arrogant way, but of the God that I serve and has led me for many many years through highs and lows. So I would rather point out to you, thank Him for using people to help others on their way to their destiny.
Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser. Teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? Let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
Matthew 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
Matthew 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Matthew 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
If people hate the Word of God that is not my fight.
Remember this: I do not see the fight as a personal challenge, but one against my God. I am walking with the Lord, therefore I am not familiar with human armour and tactics. You cannot defeat your opponent with the weapons you have not tried. I have tried God and found Him very reliable, trustworthy and effective.
The clearer sight we have on Heaven, the less shall we fear the calamities of the earth and things to come and you will not be disappointed.
We will see who will stand in the end.
Well its 10.42pm, October 14th. Australian time. No UFO. Why do I soooo want to belive there will be one?…when I know there wont be!! Heart saying yes, but the mind is saying no way!
This is what will happen.
http://www.anotherviewpoint.co.uk/images/hoax.jpg
Harf Harf Hardy har har.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=b_xDpqSTNEQ
greetings cretins
has everyone noticed on here that bush has made announcements about bailoutplan, and bernanke and paulson are next. blossom goodchild is paid to keep her followers looking up in the sky like nutcases , instead what is going on here on earth. easy deception is it not! california needa 9 billion dollars right now, while wildfires are burning everything down. hmmm aliens have been camping and did not put the fire out. while bush and his cronies are announcing everything to non watching americans then unemployed people and old people in nursing homes, they are pushing their evil plan through to deceive the entire world to steep them in financial debts again and then run out of the white house, move to a undisclosed area with sakcs full of money and live quietly because most of them have reached pensionable age. wake up stupidos. you are getting teh wool pulled over ya eyes while you are staring at them. all the eyes are on the wrong place.
If a UFO would land anywhere, it would be Alabama, right?
I’m afraid that this woman has been talking to the Devil. That’s where this information has been comming from.
Nothing will take place on October 14th and this will discredit those that have believed her and show that she has been misled.
She will feel a sense of hopelessness, shame and despair that she was misled and that she then misled others. That was part of the game that she got involved with and the psychological and biological response they will feel is what the game was all about. It will weaken their auras and enable an attack from dark energy (ie evil energy/spirits).
She should know better that the dark ones can see across time and manipulate thoughts and actions to result in the inevitable outcome that results in an attack.
and they only speak english, all other languages and countries are not significant for their agenda on earth…
I won’t fall for the 14th again.. WILL I??
This post is not intended as the gloat, as I’m sure there are many more qualified people in that department.
Today there are going to be very many disappointed people, so much so that there are bound to be people out there who will feel that ending their lives will be a better option. But for the most it will be a day of sadness, loneliness, anger, frustration …. etc etc. if you believe that any of these things are not true then you won’t have the compassion to understand or believe this and you won’t be living in the real world.
The victim the best way to sum up the current climate over the past year is best described in one word, and that is uncertainty. From this grows fear, insecurity, hope…….. etc etc just to name a few. We become vulnerable an open to forms of exploitation by others when we want to change things for the better.
The Predator
When opportunities arrive a Predator will look at the weakness of the victim in a developed society we now take it further and look at an individual’s emotional weakness. The predator has only one thing on their mind and that is to prey on the victim for their own satisfaction whether emotional or physical.
the Setup
A scenario (a Prediction) is created in the mind of the victim, this scenario will have hope, balance, fulfilment…. etc etc as its essence and everyone will want to feed into that this it is just human nature. To enhance the scenario (prediction) you surround it with our current global climate which is fear and uncertainty, this in its own way becomes a perpetuating loop fed on a daily basis. With the basis of this scenario or prediction now set up all the predator has to do is spread the word.
The Trap
With story set the next stage is to turn that into hard cash. For it to work on a large scale you would need more predators and then the packed instinct comes in to play. The pack leader will set themselves up as the focus as they have the hope and wishes that the victims want. The remainder of the pack will be scattered and moving the victims towards the pack leader. In most cases the vast majority would escape but there will be a few that will fall prey. This cycle is repeated 24/7 constantly.
the Sting/Scam
The predator will set up a webpage with a prediction for the victim the message will be hope and salvation, and the victim will want to hear this. The predator will say to get further information you will need to pay, not much but enough to make it affordable for the victim, and it will be done in such a way that the victim feels they are helping the predator. Whilst you’re on their site you will be offered other services ranging from hard books, E-books, T-shirts, readings, conference calls, CDs, personal readings, fantasies, eery claims ….. etc etc and all of this in the name of “what the victim wants to hear” other websites will also be set up to perpetrate the predator’s message and will always refer back to the original source thus becoming a marketing scam. This will be pushed harder and faster as the date of the prediction draws close and quite literally becomes a feeding frenzy as they want to cash in quickly as their timeframe diminishes.
The Aftermath
As the predicted day arrives it will be business as usual in the vast majority of people, even those who wanted to believe it. For them it would have been a bit of fun and probably they didn’t take it too seriously. On the other hand there will be people who have taken this dead seriously, and would have made life changing decisions based on this predatory scam,this the amount of misery and destruction that follows this type of event is enormous. Whilst this is not your normal everyday scam fraud generally takes in 1 in 10 people YES ONE IN TEN.
Now it would be very interesting to look at a site web traffic and apply some maths.
How do i avoid it.
The best answer here is understand yourself you know what your hopes and wishes dreams and desires are, that will be your vulnerability. As a Prediction manifests itself “think critical” ask yourself what really is the bottom line here. If there is anywhere a suggestion of paying money then it will be a scam. Also understand that if you are taken in by a hoax you will affect other people around you directly. And remember… It’s about YOUR cash NOT YOU as a person.
Capice ?
Ummm Ok, so if this is all a scam for big money, then what if Oct 15th comes and nothing at all happens.
Do you not think credibility and trust are completely out the window.
That sure is a huge stretch you make for someone that seems to be staking their career on this channelling. I seriously doubt it is to feed of prey and scam the world as your theory would surmise.
Nice try though, but just sounds like another long rant of a non believer to me
Oh and you think it is about sitting with you in the front room and having tea and a laugh right ?
It WILL be about your hard cash and scams. Because nothing has happened as I told everyone already from the beginning. Whether you believe it or not the day will pass without anything interesting regarding anything. It is 2:51 pm 14th of October. Breakfast has past, Lunchtime has past, It’s teatime now. And that is where I am going for now. I wouid not want to stand in Blossom Goodchild’s shoes, if she is not abducted yet to save her skin. She will be responsible for any suicides that will take place by tomorrow. Just like demons always do with their deceptions. History is full of their schemes.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: and Jesus says about Himself: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
I am watching the news from this morning until now. All is about Money. I guess it is all about a long rant of non believers.
The world is dying and will die with it!
If something is not done to make the people of this world come together! Look at the facts:
The frogs is dying.
The bees is disapearing.
The ice is melting.
The new world order is spreading diceases and using strange haarp weapons.
The countries is building underground bases
to protect few people from the jugement day.
Ectually, We need help from outsiders and I see that’s the only salution to save man kind cause we are way too busy making money for our famalys getting food on the table. But I dont believe in dates But I am shure the will come, hopefully with in 2 years! Be peacefull in the mind and the thoghts projects energys to your surrondings! Peace, you know I Love you!
The aliens ran out of fuel on the way here, they are refueling at Mars and cleaning their jet-engines.
Is it a Triangle up in the northern territory??
Or is Google weather just being normal with missing area of weather?
Look what I’ve found in Google earth!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwVpEle2dsc&NR=1
This is to the fake KJ posting garbage.
We will know who you are in time.
Remember that you are not safe behind your computer.
When the time comes you will feel very sorry about your silly small minded postings.
We are on to you, filthy little man.
Sorry to you KJ for the attacks from this (these) worthless close-minded sheep.
Take care.
Bit of an anti-climax for october 14 so far, anybody have sore fingers from typing meaningless crap?
I might start one of these conspiracy theroys, make some cash. Anybody keen on something like ‘december 24, catching the real santa clause in his tracks’ let me know, we can write a book, make a mill, then squader it on cars, class A drugs and woman
nobody owns a name so i can post with whateva name i blooming want. his only supporters are his multiple personalties kj1 and kj supporter. filthy kj
The above post I have not written. Again we are seeing here a ID high jacker who has not life that make others miserable for the sake of ego satisfaction.
The only reason I have used KJ and KJ1 is because of two different blog entries that I write onto.
Why do you have to be so incredible infantile and behave like a three year old. Let it go ! Get over it. If you are upset with me, then write under your real ID, don’t highjack mine and write gibberish about me.
Don’t you see you are harming yourself instead of me ? People see who I am and who you are and what you are doing. Let that anger go. Really.
I know exactly why you are here. Your purpose is to run me off this forum for whatever reason you have and by any means you can deploy. Don’t you have anything else to do then this ? I don’t think you have become reasonable and credible anymore. The reason why you want to write under my ID is that you afraid to show your own ID identity. Really give it up. Go do something else for the sake of humanity.
so i’m on a website where people talk about all kinds of things. and oct 14th has been the most important topic so far. to the nutbags on the site. i keep trying to tell them that i believe in aliens and ufo’s but not a bunch of hippy dippy star trek fan attention whores…what’s worse is they all keep talking like it is going to happen and when i keep saying well, you don’t know for sure until AFTER Oct 14th, so why don’t you at least wait until then to see, they all get mad at me and tell me that i am small minded and ask me a million dumb questions like im a no fun never believed in aliens type. when i had to say on the contrary, that i do believe in ufo’s, but i don’t believe in this bunch of attention whore ” channelers ” more project blue beam if it does happen, everyone acts like i’m a hard hearted disbeliever who is telling them their is no santa claus. Idiots! i tried to tell them how dumb they look but no….
QUote: Blossom Goodchild says she will commit suicide if shes wrong.
Does this say enough about her being unstable ?
wahhhhh!!! give my name back i wanit
i like talking to myself and my several personalties
doesn’t matter about this prediction, there’s much evidence from ufo sightings already even if nothing happens today. but would be nice for aliens to finally stop hiding away
Well, I do believe in UFO’s and I have personally seen one before. However, the problem I have with the majority of those involved in UFOlogy is the belief of conviction that the some being from another planet is going to land here and whisk away all the “good” people here on the planet who are tired of the pollution, wars, hatred, etc and take them to a higher vibrational frequency planet. Or just those that think help is going to come to us from Aliens. They are going to help us to learn to be more loving, assist us with technology, uplift our world from the pit we have dug ourselves into!
What BS. Mankind is always waiting for some messiah, saint, demi-God, angel, politician, or ALIEN to save us.
Wouldn’t the world be a MUCH better place if each of us took full responsibility for what is happening in our world and did our best to change it rather than casting our gaze to heaven for our rescuers.
We aren’t going to be rescued. We need to get it toghther ourselves. We ARE who we have been wating for.
“QUote: Blossom Goodchild says she will commit suicide if shes wrong.” FALSE!
Lies from yet another follower sheeple.
KJ is obviously the most eloquent troll the internet has ever seen.
Don’t feed the troll, folks.
By the way, when I read KJ’s posts here, I always think of this picture. I encourage you to do the same.
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs23/f/2007/322/c/9/Must_Win_Internet_by_DanShive.jpg
I 100% agree Chris. +++++
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
— An internet troll is a person who goes trolling (fishing) for debates that have no interests to him or her. There main goal is to push everyone into a chaotic state of anger and flaming for their own personal enjoyment. SICK AND USELESS FOOLS.
Why Alabama?
I am the ruler of all and I know the aliens will come!
and i can’t wait for the anal probing!
Check this link out. It’s live webcam from the Tate satellite and there’s something floating around the Southern Hemisphere lol
http://www.tate.org.uk/space/webcam.htm
what is those blobs below the earth??!! lol
That blob has been there forever. It is a smear on the lens of the camera !
and look nothing happened……lol
If is was real, then the DOME ARGUS, in Antarctica, which has a team of scientists representing six international institutions, including Texas A&M University, who are on the summit of Antarctica who have established a new astronomical observatory at Dome Argus on the highest point of the Antarctic Plateau and would have reported this to the authorities everywhere in the world and they have not !
Stop believing lies on here ! Give it up alright !
Evidence that nobody on here will get away with it.
http://www.china.org.cn/china/sci_tech/2008-03/20/content_13163459.htm
China’s automatic space observatory at Dome Argus, the highest point of the Antarctic ice sheet, has been successfully completed.
The observatory was set up by China’s 24th science inspection team on the South Pole at Dome Argus, the Antarctic icecap peak at 4,093 meters above sea level. It has undergone more than one month of tests and examinations and now transfers back nearly 10M of astronomic data every day.
“Only when we can get data stably from the observatory, can we take the load off our minds, and see that our efforts at the Antarctic icecap have been successfully completed,” said by Zhu Zhenxi, one of the astronomers in the inspection team.
Setting up this observatory is an international project led by China’s astronomers in cooperation with astronomers from Australia, the U.S. and Britain. It is a milestone in the development of astronomy in China, said experts in the inspection team.
The past 10 years of scientific research showed that Dome Argus, due to its special geographic site, had great potential to become one of the best places on the earth to set up an observatory.
The observatory will for the first time in the world map the parameters of Dome Argus helping to enable the building of larger observatories at a later date.
(Xinhua News Agency, March 20, 2008)
Why do people keep lies up for the sake of ????????
Webcams in Antartica
http://www.antarcticanz.govt.nz/education/2568
Nobody reports UFO’s. None !
MY COUSIN WAS ON A HUNTING TRIP IN NORTHERN CANADA AND ON OCT 7TH 6 IN THE MORNING SAW A FIRE BALL TRAVELING FROM NORTH YO SOUTH. HE SAID IT LASTED ABOUT 45 SEC TO A MIN IT DID NOT BURN UP BUT JUST KEPT ON TRAVELING AS THOUGH IT WAS LANDING. DID ANY BODY ELSE SEE THIS?
FRANK
October 15th 915am Perth Western Australia
Still no reports of any Ufo’s, specially one of considerable size that the government cant cover up. Maybe they’re late… or invisable… or perhaps the channeler is just a crack pot. Bold prediction, poor performance.
Frank,
Can you give it up, there are airplanes that create huge fireballs like the Blackbird spy plane behind them and travel at huge speeds from one side to another. Here is the link for verification.
http://www.eaa231.org/Museum/SR71/SR7101.jpg
Duh !
Another confirmation regarding 7th October Fireball over Sudan.
http://transientsky.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/incoming-fireball-2008-tc3/
It’s a meteorite. Sigh, give me a real UFO sighting of 14th of October. It’s 3 am 15th of October 2008. And still no News on an UFO.
Proof that is is not going to happen. Okayyyyyyyy ! Tell Blossom Goodchild to get an appointment with the local shrink and take a session for life.
Hype, Hype, Hype ! While Bush and cronies get away with the biggest scam in the world. Millions of people watch up in the sky !
Happy now ?
god got angry and ate all the little aliens, now it’s the humans time
correction: there’s a few ufo sightings on ther 14th because of people looking up at the sky but none 2000 miles across.
the US goverment prevnted them form landing as miss blossom channeler said they would try to do except they must been sucesfulll.
nothing in San Diego, CA…it’s 10/14, 7:38pm
i cant wait for der lickel aliens to land on my head
OMG I SEE THEM!! – oh wait… it was a cloud shaped like a cloud.
In the Baha’i Holy Writings which Baha’is consider to be the revealed Word of God through His latest Manifestation the Prophet Baha’u'llah makes mention of life on many, many planets. Now this is consistent with logic and reason because in such a vast universe there is every chance we are not alone. This is what Baha’u'llah writes:
Know thou that every fixed star hath its own planets, and every planet its own creatures, whose number no man can compute.
(Baha’u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u'llah, p. 162)
While Baha’is accept that life does exists on other planets we base our facts on what a Prophet of God has said and no-one else because only God Who is the creator of the universe really knows what and who lives in it. On the subject of psychic forces the Baha’i Writings has this to say:
To tamper with psychic forces while in this world interferes with the condition of the soul in the world to come. These forces are real, but are not to be active on this plane.
(Compilations, Baha’i Scriptures, p. 442)
Be patient.
Everyone should wait a short while longer.
We seem to have the timings off in our earthly minds.
Remember that the day is not over yet.
take your god and stick it up your arse
POKE SMOT!!!!!!
Ufology did not need a babbling getting this much attention such as this. Now it will be another twenty years before I proudly stick my head up and say I believe in other life out there, with out fearing to be associated with these wanna-bes. I don’t need to be mean.., hell, yes I do, just because you wish to be the one who is magically/telepathically connected to a superior race, you know the favorite of the earth, and will be granted a commander status on their mothership when it arrives ’cause they talked to you first… quit preying on those who want so desperately to believe in something extraordinary just to fill your purse. Goodchild? How bout Not so goodchild who has found a way to suck some cash from those desperate enough to listen. You twit.
Frank licoln, Alabama.
this just in!!…..the aliens hit some unexpected solar and electrcal turbulance during their flight here to earth. they should arrive as planned but obviously they will be alittle late. give or take a day or three…stay tuned for up to the minute updates.
To much EVE Online
)…Federation of light..loling
Well that was uneventful
Yesterday I went outside and was like OMG THERE’S A BIG BURNING FIREBALL ON THE SKY AND STRANGE MEN WITH SWOLLEN CHESTS WALK AROUND IN THE STREETS
Then some friends told me that fireball is the Sun and is everyday up there, those men with swollen chests are called “Women” also there everyday, furthermore they told me to leave my computer down here in the Basement more often…
Well Oct 14 is almost over and nothing happe…wait what’s that…up there look…my God it’s huge!…It’s landing…this is unbeliveable…wait somethings hapening, a hatch of somekind….opening…What’s that? There in the smoke?…something…something moving…coming down the landing ramp…moving towards me. NO! IT CAN’T BE!!! it’s….it’s…it’s Richard Dryfuss!!
I think with such creditability at risk here, this Blossum group would not just make up a story that they believed to be false (or hoax).
Nonetheless, it if does not happen in the 72 hour period, they will be permanently flamed and completely discredited! lets reserve judgement until that time is up.
Greetings. I bring love right on time.
Well I (for one)welcome our new Alien overlords.
Ok Folks,
It is time for my my belly laughs of how gullible are. Mawhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhah
Keep up the folly okayyyyy ! This all will pass on.
This is a prophetic announcement.
They will never arrive. Never ! Just believe me now. I said it on post (141) KJ says:
“Stop the bull ! I guarantee you, nothing will happen on the~~> 14th of October 2008. You bunch of madhatters. 2000 mile long ship. What a crock !”
It’s 5 pm 15th of October 2008. Anyone who is going to believe Blossom Goodchild is just downright stupid. Get over it. It’s not happening. Stop being a total idiot.
True prophets tell as it is and I told you and no cigar.
Keeping it up, makes you only look more like a fool that “they” will come.
Someone should talk to this Blossom Goodchild and tell her, dump that White Cloud fool. He ain’t good. He has been ruining her, he has put many people on the wrong path and deception, or do I say It. Because spirits do not have a gender.
If you don’t believe me, believe it for the sakes that you are dum bass looking up in the air for no reason. You can’t see where you are going. Get it now. You will trip over your own feet.
Please, listen to me. Go take a box and put some little money in it every day and on the end of the week, give it to a poor person, or someone that is in need. Or buy some food for someone who has not much. Look after the children, the widows, the widower, the sick, the old, the ones who have pain, the ones who are sick. You will have great treasure. I promise you will be blessed and love will come from everywhere. Don’t be selfish, be nice, open your house for others and help them. This is a awesome treasure of wisdom.
Forget about UFO’s and all these things. Get among the people who need you. I honestly hope that all of you will do this, you will not be disappointed.
Take care and God bless.
KJ
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Nothing happened. I knew it. Anyone who thought some UFO was going to appear or some light ship need to be put in a straightjacket and locked in a padded room.
I dunno the difference between a god and aliens, yet i think i’m so superior to think that god will save my fat ass
Hey fake ID KJ, why don’t you suck it, pin head !
Yo esperé con optimismo que el sueño se volviese realidad y que la Federación Galáctica de la Luz vienese a nuestro mundo aportando tecnología para impedir que colapse por los efectos climáticos producto de la contaminación industrial.
Sigo siendo optimista y espero que nuestros amigos extraterrestres hayan decidido simplemente correr la fecha unos días, a efectos de observar la reacción de nosotros los terrícolas.
hehe there’s at least half a dozen different kjs here now. let me add to the list why don’t you do that yourself barkupthemoontoufos since you love you love the moon so much go bark at it
i luv the mooooon and it’s reciepients wen its comes out i lurrve it lol
i luv kj please do to me what i did to you last weeekkk pls
Many people don’t speak Spanish here, but I can translate it for everyone here.
I waited with optimism that the dream is becoming a reality and that the Galactic Federation of Light to come to our world by providing technology to prevent the collapse of the climatic effects product of industrial pollution.
I remain optimistic and hope that our friends have decided to just run a extraterrestrial date a few days, in order to observe the reaction of us earthlings.
Note from KJ: Eh, another person who believes that it still comes to pass ?
GIVE IT UP !
Nothing will come !
Why can’t you just give it up ? Just enter yourself on http://www.freakazoids.com
thanx i wud luv to do that cos my name is kj it stands for king james i luv to do it all for you llloooll
Me thinks you are deranged u who pretend to be KJ. The real KJ does make sense, but you don’t. You are just a slapper. You have problems with Irritable Bowel Syndrome ?
http://www.funnypicturefunnyphoto.com/funny-picture-photo-child-toilet-massdistraction-pic.jpg
Hey Fake Pretending KJ, ur such a whiner ! U need to be boxed over.
sorry both me and the fake don’t make sense because we are both stupid god deluders
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAH
See how stupid everyone is except the real KJ guy, it’s the only person who really makes sense on this forum.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/markrod59/2946108873/
well, it is October 16 2008 and they were a no show. Perhaps on their way to Earth they decided to stop off at Venus where all the women are.
Most people didn’t think aliens would visit, they may have hoped but they wouldn’t gamble money on it, therefore they didn’t really think it would happen.
KJ was right about this prediction, but wrong about much other stuff. Notably his disregard to all sightings, where some do remain unexplained and technically that’s a ufo. And you can’t seriously say he talks any sense when he speaks bible passages, how he speaks to jesus and angels. Haha, please that is as silly as Blossom talking to aliens.
It’s obvious someone has faked his name, but I don’t give any more credence to the original kj than the fakers.
Blossom has made a youtube video explaining what went wrong, I don’t think I will watch this one looool
1) An alleged member of the Galactic Federation of light says that a very large light ship will appear on October 14th.
2) Numerous other alleged members of the GFL confirm the event and date.
3) They do not show up.
What is wrong with this picture?
What proof is there that the Galactic Federation of Light even exists?
Who are these entities that are giving these telepathic messages?
I smell the reptilian/grey cabal jerking humans around.
Now, why would the reptilian/grey cabal do this?
1)reptilian/greys are incapable of telling the truth.
2)reptilian/greys only do things that are to their advantage.
What are the possibilities here?
@ John
KJ says, he wished the forum members talked more about the issues — and less about me.
You said: “And you can’t seriously say he talks any sense when he speaks bible passages, how he speaks to jesus and angels. Haha, please that is as silly as Blossom talking to aliens.”
Just because others take me seriously and you just don’t. Does that mean when I am speaking about bible passages that you are wright ? When I speak about Jesus and Angels am I going into the world to tell them about it. I don’t talk about personal encounters with people. It was only since you asked for it and I certainly don’t make videos and sent them to the rest of the world like Blossom. Are those scientific proven facts ? The next stupid step is from you of-course I am affiliated and related with her is it not ? Does that make any sense ? Why associate me with her is just as weird you coming on here and making such ludicrous claims. But then we know that you do such things just for the sake of.
Just step off it, John. To me and all the others who have ridiculed me, you are just a local gossip journalist that has their own agenda to blackmail others for the sake of putting yourself into the spotlight as being justified in whatever you can throw at them.
The only credit you can be given that you admitted that I told you so, Aliens are not coming.
When I entered here, my quote was “Stop the bull ! I guarantee you, nothing will happen on the~~> 14th of October 2008. You bunch of madhatters. 2000 mile long ship. What a crock !” unquote.
You immediately jumped to the conclusion, that I have dismissed sightings or pictures about UFO’s.
No-one can deny the existence of pictures and videos about UFO’s, IFO’s, and the like on the internet. Nor do I. Your point is ?
What baffles me in the whole situation is simply the following. Whatever personal experiences are and the interpretation is for them: “It’s in the eye of the beholder.” It means, the angle that people look at things and them dragged away with it and the seriously boring serenade of: Yessssss, there must be something out there !!!!!! Everyone knows there is something out there, but the facts are WHAT is out there ? In Sociology people look from different angles towards things in society and family life and they go with where they feel the most comfortable with.
UFO’s, IFO’s, Aliens are based on Hoaxes and keep holding up lies for the sake of…..that is my opinion and I will continue in that opinion and you are not and anyone else are going to debunk me with it. Especially so what have seen the last few days that have been unfolding. I have seen a lot of Hype, Hate, Evil, Disgusting behavior, Selfishness, Rants and Lunacy on the internet about things that never would happen in the first place. Enough for me to last a lifetime to stay away from it all. People who want to see the opposite of it should think again with their higher vibrations lunacy, because we are in the same mess as we were before, nothing has changed. Absolutely nothing. All what we have seen is shuffling things and objects over the table from one end to the other and it is exactly the same table and objects as before.
My other observance is regarding all these inundated pictures on the internet is, what’s the big deal ? I have never been bothered by them, not will I now. I have never seen an UFO in my lifetime. Just because others see them or observe them they must exist ?
Atheists constantly hammer on the fact they must see God first before they accept all that is related to it. It’s the same thing like so many of them do. It really does not make any difference for me.
The personal experience in life is for everyone different and everyone lives on a different plane with their thoughts and theories.
Trying to spiritualize science is just laughable, because you just have this mindset and does not want to be debunked in it. If you want to keep up your strongholds of narrow mindedness is not my problem. I remember a online forum member here pointing out you are a peabrain. What does that mean John ? When I read this, it means you only accept what you see and as you go along you think science will expand your horizon of conconquering everything that exists and what others can be explained by Thoughts, Emotions, Hearing, Touching, and Vision as I said before in another post. That is what many people call narrow minded or peabrain.
You refuse to add Faith as a sixth sense, because you willingly have excluded that from your abilities to receive it. That is just fine with me. If you feel that that is the path you so must go. Then I would say, God Speed.
I am willing to look at science and I have not really a problem with it, but I don’t see it as an end of means like you do. If you don’t want to add certain things which other people have as a lifestyle and are pretty happy with it, who are you to mow over them that science is the answer to all things ? That is not only arrogant but also downright selfish. You have not tried God as other people have and your quest is only the road of science and the knowledge you gather out of it. What more can I say ?
Futher regarding UFO’s, Aliens. It is designed to take a stab at the personal encounters that people have daily in their lives to ruin their belief in them.
The bible clearly tells those who believe in the Word of God that this will be the case and is as old as the bible itself. Bringing people on the path of deception is as old as this world is. The refusal to investigate whether there is a God is just narrow mindedness and arrogant. As I said before, sure science has brought us benefits in certain matters. But has created far more chaos in this world and disturbances in ways how to deal with each other and no it is not religion that does such things which so many keep holding onto, it is the man or woman who APPLY it wrongly for their own interpretation and uses.
I surely would be a advocate for the unexplainable issue regarding Love. Because that keeps us going. Not the like of what all those weirdo’s understand under it. But as Agape not as Lust. We all are merely driven by Lust and desire then by Agape. We don’t want to stand in the gap for our brothers and sisters without gaining financially and admiration out of it.
It takes a true Follower of Jesus Christ to understand such matters and to apply them practically. My experience with self realists is that they are selfish, egoistic, drama seekers, deceivers, twisters, living on a plane of fabrication and lies, attention-seekers and misleaders of their own deluded truths who led demons give access to them and speak their dark matters through them.
Ofcourse you will be eager to twist this around and turn around that that is applicable to me too ? Tell me how this would be applicable to me if I don’t harm anyone with my personal beliefs and have not seen anyone being disgruntled about it who agree with me about this.
Everyone has a right to agree to disagree, but disagreeing about something you have never tried is just fallacy.
And yes still I have an opinion that in science there is a lot of waste of time and focussed upon things that can be solved by supernatural intervention in where people like I am and others move into.
If you can’t respect that, I really don’t care. It’s your problem not mine. It was always your problem in the first place anyways.
If you don’t want to try out God, then you should not talk to people who do and find it valuable for their life to move into and with.
I have no idea why you hate people who want to stand and contend for their Faith and in the end it is none of your business anyways what they do believe or not. And come off what others did in the past of using religion to brainwash the masses. Nowhere I have been applying such attitude as you claim and have branded me as an extremist. It is more like that you are the cause of people becoming extremist because of your relentless reverse psychology you have been using on them… and me. How about that ?
Mocking and trashing someone will get you nowhere. Everyone can see that the shields go up when you are trying to take the grassroots under their feet away. No one needs to have a scientific explanation upon that which you have vigorously applied as mocking those whose life is in order and are satisfied with that. Yet still you come over as a pompous delinquent that shall have the last word not matter the cost.
With that I am closing now, take care and God bless also for those who disagree with me. I just hope you will find the right path in Jesus Christ, because there is no other Way to come to God then through Him.
@ John
KJ says, he wished the forum members talked more about the issues — and less about me.
You said: “And you can’t seriously say he talks any sense when he speaks bible passages, how he speaks to jesus and angels. Haha, please that is as silly as Blossom talking to aliens.”
Just because others take me seriously and you just don’t. Does that mean when I am speaking about bible passages that you are wright ? When I speak about Jesus and Angels am I going into the world to tell them about it. I don’t talk about personal encounters with people. It was only since you asked for it and I certainly don’t make videos and sent them to the rest of the world like Blossom. Are those scientific proven facts ? The next stupid step is from you of-course I am affiliated and related with her is it not ? Does that make any sense ? Why associate me with her is just as weird you coming on here and making such ludicrous claims. But then we know that you do such things just for the sake of.
Just step off it, John. To me and all the others who have ridiculed me, you are just a local gossip journalist that has their own agenda to blackmail others for the sake of putting yourself into the spotlight as being justified in whatever you can throw at them.
The only credit you can be given that you admitted that I told you so, Aliens are not coming.
When I entered here, my quote was “Stop the bull ! I guarantee you, nothing will happen on the~~> 14th of October 2008. You bunch of madhatters. 2000 mile long ship. What a crock !” unquote.
You immediately jumped to the conclusion, that I have dismissed sightings or pictures about UFO’s.
No-one can deny the existence of pictures and videos about UFO’s, IFO’s, and the like on the internet. Nor do I. Your point is ?
@ John
KJ says, he wished the forum members talked more about the issues — and less about me.
You said: “And you can’t seriously say he talks any sense when he speaks bible passages, how he speaks to jesus and angels. Haha, please that is as silly as Blossom talking to aliens.”
Just because others take me seriously and you just don’t. Does that mean when I am speaking about bible passages that you are wright ? When I speak about Jesus and Angels am I going into the world to tell them about it. I don’t talk about personal encounters with people. It was only since you asked for it and I certainly don’t make videos and sent them to the rest of the world like Blossom. Are those scientific proven facts ? The next stupid step is from you of-course I am affiliated and related with her is it not ? Does that make any sense ? Why associate me with her is just as weird you coming on here and making such ludicrous claims. But then we know that you do such things just for the sake of.
Just step off it, John. To me and all the others who have ridiculed me, you are just a local gossip journalist that has their own agenda to blackmail others for the sake of putting yourself into the spotlight as being justified in whatever you can throw at them.
@ John
The only credit you can be given that you admitted that I told you so, Aliens are not coming.
When I entered here, my quote was “Stop the bull ! I guarantee you, nothing will happen on the~~> 14th of October 2008. You bunch of madhatters. 2000 mile long ship. What a crock !” unquote.
You immediately jumped to the conclusion, that I have dismissed sightings or pictures about UFO’s.
No-one can deny the existence of pictures and videos about UFO’s, IFO’s, and the like on the internet. Nor do I. Your point is ?
What baffles me in the whole situation is simply the following. Whatever personal experiences are and the interpretation is for them: “It’s in the eye of the beholder.” It means, the angle that people look at things and them dragged away with it and the seriously boring serenade of: Yessssss, there must be something out there !!!!!! Everyone knows there is something out there, but the facts are WHAT is out there ? In Sociology people look from different angles towards things in society and family life and they go with where they feel the most comfortable with.
Sorry for the double posts up here, it looked like it was not coming through so I thought I break it up in parts.
KJ…… why don’t you just write your own blog????
I have a blog ! Thank you !
hahahahaha so much attributed towards john makes you sound obsessive
my blog says i luv god please let him lik ur assss cos i luvd it cos kjs a fagot
Blossom Goodchild is a badger’s bum!
Damn, I’ve run out of mashed potatoe!
After reading this page very, very carefully I have come to a few conclusions.
The fact that most of you where hoping that this event would take place (even though deep down you new it wouldn’t) tells me that you guy’s are aimlesy wandering through unforfilled (proberly Goth’s in your youth)with feelings of “Nobody understands” “I feel like I’m on the outside of it all looking in.” . You feel like a ship with no rudder, no direction. Your lives are so miserable that you cling to the hope that your right and evryone else is wrong. This, in your minds, would give you some sort of vindication. Almost like you are wearing an invisible sandwhich board that reads “I told you so!”
For the example I will focus on ‘Will’. Your explanation for the non arrival is that ‘Reptillian/Grey’s’ are behind some sort of deception because in your own words “They are in capable of telling the truth”. My friend are you actually listeng to what you are saying? Would you have us belive that you are in a position of some sort of higher knowledge on the behavioral patterns of not one but two alien life forms that we can’t even confirm exsisit? That’s like saying all Darleks where created to exterminate! Do you see how ridiculas this sounds? The fact that some of you have the front to say that The Fed of Light didn’t show was that there wasn’t enough belivers. What balderdash. From just this site alone it appears that there are no shortage of belivers. In fact it would seem that NON belivers are the ones in the minority.
May I suggest a remady for you poor people.
1, Get out more. There’s a big world out there filled with many interesting people.
2, Find a boy/girl friend. Finding a soulmate, some one to share with may help fan the flames of bitterness you feel toward the rest of the world.
3, Try to do YOUR bit to make the world a better place before sitting and waiting for the interventions of aliens heralded by some attention seeking wench who evan had the front to sell ‘Oct 14th record albums’ on her site. I mean her name (Blossom Goodchild)alone should have had alarm bells ringing in your ears.
Are really saying that you belive that a person on planet Earth can receive messages in their mind from lifeforms which are galaxys away? Really? If your answer to that is yes then I’m very scared for our future. I would like to leave on a positive note. Chad Sexington, Kent Brockman and Richard Dreyfuss. Thankyou for your much need injection of humor on this subject.
PEACE!
I thank everyone that I have been able to write on this blog undivided and undiluted about the message that I have been carrying for almost a lifetime. Above all I want to thank Billy Booth, famly and friends to have patience with me writing on his blog even sometimes I found it rough to do so in occasions. My message and desire was for everyone of reality, truth, humility, love, compassion for others that have it not so good then you might have. In this I am never saying that I know all the answers to all things. But, my encouragement to all who will read this blog from the beginning to the end, I hope that you will find in my endeavors for a better world will be granted in the future so your environment will be better in relationships, family, and your brothers and sisters and… mankind. I would like to end with a message of my observations of many, many people on this blog, as well from other forums and blogs about this particular message that has clouded the last 3-4 days of humankind faculties.
What kind of psychological weaknesses drive people to prefer lies over truth?
This may have something to do with what is called Cognitive Dissonance. Leon Festinger developed the theory of Cognitive Dissonance in the 50’s when he apparently stumbled onto a UFO cult in the Midwest. They were prophesying a coming world cataclysm and “alien rapture.” When no one was raptured and no cataclysm he studied the believers response, and detailed it in his book “When Prophecy Fails.” Festinger observed:
A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point.
We have all experienced the futility of trying to change a strong conviction, especially if the convinced person has some investment in his belief. We are familiar with the variety of ingenious defenses with which people protect their convictions, managing to keep them unscathed through the most devastating attacks.
But man’s resourcefulness goes beyond simply protecting a belief. Suppose an individual believes something with his whole heart; suppose further that he has a commitment to this belief, that he has taken irrevocable actions because of it; finally, suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before. Indeed, he may even show a new fervor about convincing and converting other people to his view.
It seems that part of the problem has to do with ego and the need to be “right.” People with a high “need to be right” or “perfect” seem to be unable to acknowledge that they have been conned. “There is no crime in the cynical World calendar more humiliating than to be a sucker.” People will go along with and support a psychopath, in the face of evidence that they have and ARE being conned, because their own ego structure depends on being right, and to admit an error of judgment would destroy their carefully constructed image of themselves.
I greet everyone with the blessings and kindness that the day will bring to you and above all an encounter with the Almighty God that I serve, even-though I know that I have errors and mistakes myself and a lot to learn, I just hope that everyone who I have encountered here will find their way to their Creator when they return home one day.
God bless, lots of love and take care,
@ Dr Manhattan
I hope you aren’t a doc for real.
Discussing things with people from different countries is what the web is all about.
You don’t like it, get lost douche.
Don’t feed the trolls like KJ and his sidekicks. It’s a waste of everyone’s time
if this is bs then why was there a rainbow over all the world around the moon that day
Well there’s may be a simpler explanation for what you have seen. Check out – http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moonring/
Do you have any photos of the rainbow, and any news stories to backup what apparently was seen worldwide?
Otherwise, if not, then it probably wasn’t something extraordinary that you saw. I would expect at least some amateur Astronomer to have seen that and maybe there will be a news story on it at a later date. Or if it was something more unusual than moon rings, it would receive much more publicity if it happened worldwide, otherwise if only a local event, then a photo or video may be the only evidence that can be analysed.
I’m also interested in what made you connect what you saw to a possible ufo sighting.
See http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=lFddPVIoFyI
Wake up people, cause that’s the real reason, wake up.
face it bitches, whoever believed in this alienz bullzcrap is now an OFFICIAL DOUCHEBAG+DUMBASS, and needs to go to MENETAL THERREPY!!!XD
IT BE TRU!
For the benefit of the confused -
http://sarsen56.wordpress.com/ufos-aliens-and-gold-memory-devices-entertaining/
People are not crazy…
… for looking into issues that most can’t handle.
Most of you that bash others about their interests in something real world are the ones who are ill.
Your easily controlled minds are lead to believe exactly what you are conditioned to understand.
There is a force that can not be seen, this force is guiding you on a path of obedience.
Yes, that is right… you are a cattle.
For those who are open-minded and still hold on to hope for a world changed… watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/rPkc-jhepGI
Take care… God bless and God help us those who are blind.
Oct 24th, 2008
Like I said last week… we probably got the date, time and place all wrong.
I can’t wait until the 80%+ of sheep loose their dependencies and tear each other apart.
At least it will be a simple solution to finally cut down the monstrous disease of mental control facing this world.
Outnumbered by mindless people has been the most frightening experience thus far.
Those who are chosen to continue this race of humans will have a most difficult time a head.
As we will be the ones to face the so called power elite face to face, without their controlled population of the dead.
At Grams79 aka Justin Lee Grams,
Mawahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahah
Keep it up, doofus, keep it alive. The straightjacket will be send, when you go off the cliff.
Just for the onlookers, to see how deluded he is:
This was deleted from the Deletionpedia:
Justin seriously, this will bite you in the ass.
http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Justin_Grams_(deleted_26_Aug_2008_at_18:59)
Just check it out folks and see:
Justin Lee Grams
Image: Replace this image male.svg
Born March 20 1979 (age 29)
Duluth, MN
Residence United States
Occupation Freelancer
Religious belief Christian (other)
Children None
Website Justin Grams
“Justin Grams (born March 20th, 1979) is an international teacher and consultant within a wide range of fields and subjects around the world since 1997.
Known “off the record” for his unique insight on matters of philosophy and theory within hundreds of communities and organizations globally.
Also an internet guru since 1993 and a founding father of the world wide web.”
Mawhahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahha
Father of the WWW ????? I thought that Al Gore was that in his hey days before prezzie election ? Well at least he claimed that.
Well for the insiders here, it was Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee and the father of the Internet was Vinton Gray “Vint” Cerf.
Oh my my !
I am sorry people, but if I have to take this serious, I will eat all my posts.
Look people, it only shows how many people which are distorted in their minds and post on these forums, just for keeping up the hype and foolishness.
Please, Please, check the credentials before you all go haywire all again huh ?
Take care,
P.S. John promised that he would not be back here again, Hmmm I guess he lied. So much for reliability. Oh well.
Have a nice day folks.
Oh, regarding the above post and deleted page of Justin Lee Grams,
It was removed by Orange Mike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orangemike
who is a Wikipedia administrator, with a tendency to spend a fair amount of time on new-page patrol and general clean-up.
Thank you, that will be all.
Following replies to my page regarding ‘alien artifacts’ I remain to be convinced! – but anyway I just read this:
BBC news reports offical document that states ‘Airliner had near miss with UFO’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7679145.stm
KJ you seem like one of the people Mr. Grams is speaking of in his last post.
Does this make you angry?
To know that you are controlled and blind without care for yourself or others?
Keep it up child and you will continue to fade.
Someone should track the IP addys for all the KJ repliers and find the one causing most of the problems.
And then ban that IP and keep that low life away.
KJ with stupid replies – Your an idiot dude.
Hey Grams79, check this out.
22050Hz – that’s half the CD quality of 44100Hz
I am not sure if the guy who made this new video (about the wrong calendar thing) is right and this will actually happen on October 27 (yes, it’s the 27th and not the 24th!) but in any case I made a stupid concept album about this event (well, it’s inspired by it). I have uploaded it to Esnips and you can download it there (for free, of course):
http://www.esnips.com/web/Flux-Liner-The-Event
(so at least I did something creative and won’t be too disappointed if we have yet another no-show on the 27th)
I think it’s offensive to call people who ‘channel’ nutcases before you’re fully conversant with the scientific research done on the subject. Check out ‘Punk Science’.
@Grams79
I read somewhere that the human race on this planet had been made extinct several times.
Each time the galactic humans had to reseed the planet and let them evolve for a few million years.
When it comes to sex I’m similar to the thrillar in Manila,
honey’s call me Dreyfuss, the condom filler…
Come on people, there is no such thing as Chanelling!! These people who claim to do this have all been proven to be frauds. And if UFO’s were to come to earth to “help” us, I would look no further than one very valid religion, christianity, in the book of revalations, which it’ funny, when she talks about them being around for 3 days, because in the book of revelations it states that two prophets will come and will be killed and will lay dead for three days and come back to life. I digress, my point was that, the first thing that shows up on earth that most will believe is help, or jesus return, will be the antichrist. I’m am not trying to taught christianity here, I’m just saying that it is a valid religion and revalations is a vision given to john by christ himself and I would believe this over any reported “chaneller” on the face of the earth, plus now we all know nothing happened.
Next time someone says there gonna appear somewhere, especially in they sky, please have it in writing. That’s how this world works, folks.
Nothing happened on 14th 2008. Now these psychos are changing their minds to 2009. PATHETIC!
Joe Mahon,22/7/09
I am 14, and since I was 4, I have had the same recurring dream. In short, it is a very detailed dream that shows the skies dark red and and orange, with UFOs all over the sky. Some of them are non-moving while few of them dart around and stop at certain houses (very few) and one of them stops above my house. A being inside of it telepathically calls me, telling me to get my family to pack one bag of belongings and to get onto their UFO. Everything is in vivid detail, and it has come to my attention today that this sounds like a scene from “The Knowing”, which I have never seen before. I don’t care if you believe this could happen or not, but I think that this could very possibly happen during the 2012 incident. That’s all that I have to say.
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